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[quote=kcal09][quote=ocrenter][quote=kcal09]…the Serenity homes.[/quote]

new or resale?[/quote]

Resale of distressed homes.[/quote]

first, serenity is a post-bubble development, so financing for most of them would be the traditional 20% down or higher variety. and chances are most ended up getting very low 30 year interest rate.

second, like localguy mentioned on prior post, there is a market out there, homes are going. so if a house got all of the interior and exterior upgrades, it is more likely than not that it will find a buyer prior to reaching into the 700k territory. even well into 2013.

but is it possible that you might see maybe a couple of individual cases dip into the 700k range? maybe. maybe on a home that the owner could not afford to put upgrades in. and there’s a job loss. and the home already had a lot deficiency (aka minimal flat yard with steep slope in the back).

but then again, that has already happened with a couple of Davidson new homes and CityVenture Viscaya new homes. so whoever wanted a mid 700k larger Stonebridge home should have already acted. there’s no need to wait until 2013.

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[quote=kcal09][quote=ocrenter][quote=kcal09]…the Serenity homes.[/quote]

new or resale?[/quote]

Resale of distressed homes.[/quote]

first, serenity is a post-bubble development, so financing for most of them would be the traditional 20% down or higher variety. and chances are most ended up getting very low 30 year interest rate.

second, like localguy mentioned on prior post, there is a market out there, homes are going. so if a house got all of the interior and exterior upgrades, it is more likely than not that it will find a buyer prior to reaching into the 700k territory. even well into 2013.

but is it possible that you might see maybe a couple of individual cases dip into the 700k range? maybe. maybe on a home that the owner could not afford to put upgrades in. and there’s a job loss. and the home already had a lot deficiency (aka minimal flat yard with steep slope in the back).

but then again, that has already happened with a couple of Davidson new homes and CityVenture Viscaya new homes. so whoever wanted a mid 700k larger Stonebridge home should have already acted. there’s no need to wait until 2013.

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[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=afx114]I’m voting for the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.[/quote]
I may actually re-register republican just to help Santorum and Palin win.

At the very least I will know I have a year of good humor to look forward to.

Wash-River 2012 “I am a leaf on the wind”
Santorum-Savage 2016 “For a GGG and Frothy America”
Beck-Moore 2020 “Keeping everything crazy and simple”
Weiner-Franke “America Standing Erect and Proud”
Lereah-Toscano “Reconciling Blind Faith and Hard Sanity”

Just some ideas.[/quote]

I’m actually still a Republican, maybe I’ll do just that!

[ocrenter]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=afx114]I’m voting for the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.[/quote]
I may actually re-register republican just to help Santorum and Palin win.

At the very least I will know I have a year of good humor to look forward to.

Wash-River 2012 “I am a leaf on the wind”
Santorum-Savage 2016 “For a GGG and Frothy America”
Beck-Moore 2020 “Keeping everything crazy and simple”
Weiner-Franke “America Standing Erect and Proud”
Lereah-Toscano “Reconciling Blind Faith and Hard Sanity”

Just some ideas.[/quote]

I’m actually still a Republican, maybe I’ll do just that!

[ocrenter]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=afx114]I’m voting for the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.[/quote]
I may actually re-register republican just to help Santorum and Palin win.

At the very least I will know I have a year of good humor to look forward to.

Wash-River 2012 “I am a leaf on the wind”
Santorum-Savage 2016 “For a GGG and Frothy America”
Beck-Moore 2020 “Keeping everything crazy and simple”
Weiner-Franke “America Standing Erect and Proud”
Lereah-Toscano “Reconciling Blind Faith and Hard Sanity”

Just some ideas.[/quote]

I’m actually still a Republican, maybe I’ll do just that!

[ocrenter]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=afx114]I’m voting for the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.[/quote]
I may actually re-register republican just to help Santorum and Palin win.

At the very least I will know I have a year of good humor to look forward to.

Wash-River 2012 “I am a leaf on the wind”
Santorum-Savage 2016 “For a GGG and Frothy America”
Beck-Moore 2020 “Keeping everything crazy and simple”
Weiner-Franke “America Standing Erect and Proud”
Lereah-Toscano “Reconciling Blind Faith and Hard Sanity”

Just some ideas.[/quote]

I’m actually still a Republican, maybe I’ll do just that!

[ocrenter]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=afx114]I’m voting for the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.[/quote]
I may actually re-register republican just to help Santorum and Palin win.

At the very least I will know I have a year of good humor to look forward to.

Wash-River 2012 “I am a leaf on the wind”
Santorum-Savage 2016 “For a GGG and Frothy America”
Beck-Moore 2020 “Keeping everything crazy and simple”
Weiner-Franke “America Standing Erect and Proud”
Lereah-Toscano “Reconciling Blind Faith and Hard Sanity”

Just some ideas.[/quote]

I’m actually still a Republican, maybe I’ll do just that!

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[quote=equalizer]
After the so-called debate tonight, it appears that most candidates were just quoting speeches, not debating each other. Appears they agreed on most issues:

Eliminate corporate profit tax – Good idea, but need to make up revenue elsewhere, unless firms take money and hire like crazy, with 5% sustained GDP over 5 years which has never happened in modern times.

Cut capital gains tax – Great idea for the beltway, but may not be real popular with voters. Tough to convince voters that hedge fund billionaires will trickle their riches on jobs for masses. But I’m usually wrong, so it’s probably a winning issue.

Tort Reform – Ban punitive damages/class action lawsuits. Good bumper sticker, even if not accurate. CA has high health care costs even with strict limits on punitive suits.

Downsize/Close EPA, FEMA and other so-called job killing agencies – Is this necessary to compete with China? May be tough to convince voters that asbestos, PCB’s and cheap equivalents, would not return if 0% capital gains, no plaintiffs lawyers and no EPA.

Cut personal income tax – Who doesn’t want a tax cut? Winner. (Even though rates are pretty low already for modern times, so a small cut wouldn’t be super simulative)

Repeal Obamacare – Bumper sticker winner. This will be good excuse to put Romney(care) out of running. Romney actually believed the freedom of religion applied to national politicians? Of course, no politician will ever address massive health care inflation over last 20 years that is real job killer.

That leave Pawlenty as mainstream choice, but doesn’t excite base, so Bachmann is favorite? But then Perry may enter and Perry/Bachman for the win?[/quote]

we need to call tax cuts what they really are. They are EXPENSES. elimination of corporate profit tax is really spending to provide subsidies to corporations in the hope that it would stimulate more investment. except you completely eliminate the middle man and don’t even bother collecting and distribute back.

With all the spending they are proposing, the GOP is not at all interested in reducing the debt or the deficit at all.

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[quote=equalizer]
After the so-called debate tonight, it appears that most candidates were just quoting speeches, not debating each other. Appears they agreed on most issues:

Eliminate corporate profit tax – Good idea, but need to make up revenue elsewhere, unless firms take money and hire like crazy, with 5% sustained GDP over 5 years which has never happened in modern times.

Cut capital gains tax – Great idea for the beltway, but may not be real popular with voters. Tough to convince voters that hedge fund billionaires will trickle their riches on jobs for masses. But I’m usually wrong, so it’s probably a winning issue.

Tort Reform – Ban punitive damages/class action lawsuits. Good bumper sticker, even if not accurate. CA has high health care costs even with strict limits on punitive suits.

Downsize/Close EPA, FEMA and other so-called job killing agencies – Is this necessary to compete with China? May be tough to convince voters that asbestos, PCB’s and cheap equivalents, would not return if 0% capital gains, no plaintiffs lawyers and no EPA.

Cut personal income tax – Who doesn’t want a tax cut? Winner. (Even though rates are pretty low already for modern times, so a small cut wouldn’t be super simulative)

Repeal Obamacare – Bumper sticker winner. This will be good excuse to put Romney(care) out of running. Romney actually believed the freedom of religion applied to national politicians? Of course, no politician will ever address massive health care inflation over last 20 years that is real job killer.

That leave Pawlenty as mainstream choice, but doesn’t excite base, so Bachmann is favorite? But then Perry may enter and Perry/Bachman for the win?[/quote]

we need to call tax cuts what they really are. They are EXPENSES. elimination of corporate profit tax is really spending to provide subsidies to corporations in the hope that it would stimulate more investment. except you completely eliminate the middle man and don’t even bother collecting and distribute back.

With all the spending they are proposing, the GOP is not at all interested in reducing the debt or the deficit at all.

[ocrenter]

[quote=equalizer]
After the so-called debate tonight, it appears that most candidates were just quoting speeches, not debating each other. Appears they agreed on most issues:

Eliminate corporate profit tax – Good idea, but need to make up revenue elsewhere, unless firms take money and hire like crazy, with 5% sustained GDP over 5 years which has never happened in modern times.

Cut capital gains tax – Great idea for the beltway, but may not be real popular with voters. Tough to convince voters that hedge fund billionaires will trickle their riches on jobs for masses. But I’m usually wrong, so it’s probably a winning issue.

Tort Reform – Ban punitive damages/class action lawsuits. Good bumper sticker, even if not accurate. CA has high health care costs even with strict limits on punitive suits.

Downsize/Close EPA, FEMA and other so-called job killing agencies – Is this necessary to compete with China? May be tough to convince voters that asbestos, PCB’s and cheap equivalents, would not return if 0% capital gains, no plaintiffs lawyers and no EPA.

Cut personal income tax – Who doesn’t want a tax cut? Winner. (Even though rates are pretty low already for modern times, so a small cut wouldn’t be super simulative)

Repeal Obamacare – Bumper sticker winner. This will be good excuse to put Romney(care) out of running. Romney actually believed the freedom of religion applied to national politicians? Of course, no politician will ever address massive health care inflation over last 20 years that is real job killer.

That leave Pawlenty as mainstream choice, but doesn’t excite base, so Bachmann is favorite? But then Perry may enter and Perry/Bachman for the win?[/quote]

we need to call tax cuts what they really are. They are EXPENSES. elimination of corporate profit tax is really spending to provide subsidies to corporations in the hope that it would stimulate more investment. except you completely eliminate the middle man and don’t even bother collecting and distribute back.

With all the spending they are proposing, the GOP is not at all interested in reducing the debt or the deficit at all.

[ocrenter]

[quote=equalizer]
After the so-called debate tonight, it appears that most candidates were just quoting speeches, not debating each other. Appears they agreed on most issues:

Eliminate corporate profit tax – Good idea, but need to make up revenue elsewhere, unless firms take money and hire like crazy, with 5% sustained GDP over 5 years which has never happened in modern times.

Cut capital gains tax – Great idea for the beltway, but may not be real popular with voters. Tough to convince voters that hedge fund billionaires will trickle their riches on jobs for masses. But I’m usually wrong, so it’s probably a winning issue.

Tort Reform – Ban punitive damages/class action lawsuits. Good bumper sticker, even if not accurate. CA has high health care costs even with strict limits on punitive suits.

Downsize/Close EPA, FEMA and other so-called job killing agencies – Is this necessary to compete with China? May be tough to convince voters that asbestos, PCB’s and cheap equivalents, would not return if 0% capital gains, no plaintiffs lawyers and no EPA.

Cut personal income tax – Who doesn’t want a tax cut? Winner. (Even though rates are pretty low already for modern times, so a small cut wouldn’t be super simulative)

Repeal Obamacare – Bumper sticker winner. This will be good excuse to put Romney(care) out of running. Romney actually believed the freedom of religion applied to national politicians? Of course, no politician will ever address massive health care inflation over last 20 years that is real job killer.

That leave Pawlenty as mainstream choice, but doesn’t excite base, so Bachmann is favorite? But then Perry may enter and Perry/Bachman for the win?[/quote]

we need to call tax cuts what they really are. They are EXPENSES. elimination of corporate profit tax is really spending to provide subsidies to corporations in the hope that it would stimulate more investment. except you completely eliminate the middle man and don’t even bother collecting and distribute back.

With all the spending they are proposing, the GOP is not at all interested in reducing the debt or the deficit at all.

[ocrenter]

[quote=equalizer]
After the so-called debate tonight, it appears that most candidates were just quoting speeches, not debating each other. Appears they agreed on most issues:

Eliminate corporate profit tax – Good idea, but need to make up revenue elsewhere, unless firms take money and hire like crazy, with 5% sustained GDP over 5 years which has never happened in modern times.

Cut capital gains tax – Great idea for the beltway, but may not be real popular with voters. Tough to convince voters that hedge fund billionaires will trickle their riches on jobs for masses. But I’m usually wrong, so it’s probably a winning issue.

Tort Reform – Ban punitive damages/class action lawsuits. Good bumper sticker, even if not accurate. CA has high health care costs even with strict limits on punitive suits.

Downsize/Close EPA, FEMA and other so-called job killing agencies – Is this necessary to compete with China? May be tough to convince voters that asbestos, PCB’s and cheap equivalents, would not return if 0% capital gains, no plaintiffs lawyers and no EPA.

Cut personal income tax – Who doesn’t want a tax cut? Winner. (Even though rates are pretty low already for modern times, so a small cut wouldn’t be super simulative)

Repeal Obamacare – Bumper sticker winner. This will be good excuse to put Romney(care) out of running. Romney actually believed the freedom of religion applied to national politicians? Of course, no politician will ever address massive health care inflation over last 20 years that is real job killer.

That leave Pawlenty as mainstream choice, but doesn’t excite base, so Bachmann is favorite? But then Perry may enter and Perry/Bachman for the win?[/quote]

we need to call tax cuts what they really are. They are EXPENSES. elimination of corporate profit tax is really spending to provide subsidies to corporations in the hope that it would stimulate more investment. except you completely eliminate the middle man and don’t even bother collecting and distribute back.

With all the spending they are proposing, the GOP is not at all interested in reducing the debt or the deficit at all.

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[quote=briansd1]TG’s platform is a populist platform, with cosmetic surgery and porn thrown in.

Tightening the shit out of the borders won’t work and will never happen. Economic growth depends on continual immigration and new household formation. That’s what America is all about.[/quote]

GOP rhetoric on immigration enforcement have continued both with the candidates as well as the talk radio circle for the simple reason of trying to rally up the base.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/perspectives/bored-border-patrol-proves-republican-rhetoric-overblown-1.2207142 “agents stationed along certain parts of the border are so bored that, in addition to falling asleep on the job, some now play video games or watch movies to pass the time.”

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[quote=briansd1]TG’s platform is a populist platform, with cosmetic surgery and porn thrown in.

Tightening the shit out of the borders won’t work and will never happen. Economic growth depends on continual immigration and new household formation. That’s what America is all about.[/quote]

GOP rhetoric on immigration enforcement have continued both with the candidates as well as the talk radio circle for the simple reason of trying to rally up the base.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/perspectives/bored-border-patrol-proves-republican-rhetoric-overblown-1.2207142 “agents stationed along certain parts of the border are so bored that, in addition to falling asleep on the job, some now play video games or watch movies to pass the time.”

[ocrenter]

[quote=briansd1]TG’s platform is a populist platform, with cosmetic surgery and porn thrown in.

Tightening the shit out of the borders won’t work and will never happen. Economic growth depends on continual immigration and new household formation. That’s what America is all about.[/quote]

GOP rhetoric on immigration enforcement have continued both with the candidates as well as the talk radio circle for the simple reason of trying to rally up the base.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/perspectives/bored-border-patrol-proves-republican-rhetoric-overblown-1.2207142 “agents stationed along certain parts of the border are so bored that, in addition to falling asleep on the job, some now play video games or watch movies to pass the time.”

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