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January 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135409January 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135093
NotCranky
Participant“This government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.”
I ask anyone who believes this:
Why are you going to the polls?
That is the biggest confirmation that you don’t care if there is any change. As long as people vote or don’t vote and stay at home and watch TV or slave away mindlessly to pay debt these elections are a relative success for both parties.I won’t vote for any of the people that are really likely to win and I have not for years. Is that apathy? No it is conscience. We deserve better and so does the world.
Should I vote for the lesser of two evils? No that is incredibly apathetic. Besides, I can’t decide who that is no matter how hard I try. I am not sure I have met anyone who uses that phrase who also isn’t ultimately just lazily voting their own psychological or material self interest. Either way it is apathetic.
Voting my self interest would unjustly put the blood of innocent men women and children on my hands just as much as there is blood on the hands of the current tyrannical regime and those who supported it and continue to support it. I do not ascribe to a policy around maintaining the largest most comfortable middle class we can have irrespective of being conscientious citizens of the world. I would rather be poor than vote for that party.
Where to put my political energy.
Stand my ground on this explain to anyone who will listen the apathy vs. conscience issue. Never ever have television service. Stay as debt free and as free of cravings for comfort and security including job security or selling houses, so that those issues do not interfere with my courage to formulate and state my opinion for life, not just in my 20’s and to listen to and support a truly wise and just leader(ship) or a revolution of some sort when one comes on the scene and just in the case someday my fellow U.S. citizens are ready to do the same.Some people say this revolution/evolution has already started. I expect moreso the former than the latter. One can hope.
January 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135286NotCranky
Participant“This government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.”
I ask anyone who believes this:
Why are you going to the polls?
That is the biggest confirmation that you don’t care if there is any change. As long as people vote or don’t vote and stay at home and watch TV or slave away mindlessly to pay debt these elections are a relative success for both parties.I won’t vote for any of the people that are really likely to win and I have not for years. Is that apathy? No it is conscience. We deserve better and so does the world.
Should I vote for the lesser of two evils? No that is incredibly apathetic. Besides, I can’t decide who that is no matter how hard I try. I am not sure I have met anyone who uses that phrase who also isn’t ultimately just lazily voting their own psychological or material self interest. Either way it is apathetic.
Voting my self interest would unjustly put the blood of innocent men women and children on my hands just as much as there is blood on the hands of the current tyrannical regime and those who supported it and continue to support it. I do not ascribe to a policy around maintaining the largest most comfortable middle class we can have irrespective of being conscientious citizens of the world. I would rather be poor than vote for that party.
Where to put my political energy.
Stand my ground on this explain to anyone who will listen the apathy vs. conscience issue. Never ever have television service. Stay as debt free and as free of cravings for comfort and security including job security or selling houses, so that those issues do not interfere with my courage to formulate and state my opinion for life, not just in my 20’s and to listen to and support a truly wise and just leader(ship) or a revolution of some sort when one comes on the scene and just in the case someday my fellow U.S. citizens are ready to do the same.Some people say this revolution/evolution has already started. I expect moreso the former than the latter. One can hope.
January 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135290NotCranky
Participant“This government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.”
I ask anyone who believes this:
Why are you going to the polls?
That is the biggest confirmation that you don’t care if there is any change. As long as people vote or don’t vote and stay at home and watch TV or slave away mindlessly to pay debt these elections are a relative success for both parties.I won’t vote for any of the people that are really likely to win and I have not for years. Is that apathy? No it is conscience. We deserve better and so does the world.
Should I vote for the lesser of two evils? No that is incredibly apathetic. Besides, I can’t decide who that is no matter how hard I try. I am not sure I have met anyone who uses that phrase who also isn’t ultimately just lazily voting their own psychological or material self interest. Either way it is apathetic.
Voting my self interest would unjustly put the blood of innocent men women and children on my hands just as much as there is blood on the hands of the current tyrannical regime and those who supported it and continue to support it. I do not ascribe to a policy around maintaining the largest most comfortable middle class we can have irrespective of being conscientious citizens of the world. I would rather be poor than vote for that party.
Where to put my political energy.
Stand my ground on this explain to anyone who will listen the apathy vs. conscience issue. Never ever have television service. Stay as debt free and as free of cravings for comfort and security including job security or selling houses, so that those issues do not interfere with my courage to formulate and state my opinion for life, not just in my 20’s and to listen to and support a truly wise and just leader(ship) or a revolution of some sort when one comes on the scene and just in the case someday my fellow U.S. citizens are ready to do the same.Some people say this revolution/evolution has already started. I expect moreso the former than the latter. One can hope.
January 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135346NotCranky
Participant“This government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.”
I ask anyone who believes this:
Why are you going to the polls?
That is the biggest confirmation that you don’t care if there is any change. As long as people vote or don’t vote and stay at home and watch TV or slave away mindlessly to pay debt these elections are a relative success for both parties.I won’t vote for any of the people that are really likely to win and I have not for years. Is that apathy? No it is conscience. We deserve better and so does the world.
Should I vote for the lesser of two evils? No that is incredibly apathetic. Besides, I can’t decide who that is no matter how hard I try. I am not sure I have met anyone who uses that phrase who also isn’t ultimately just lazily voting their own psychological or material self interest. Either way it is apathetic.
Voting my self interest would unjustly put the blood of innocent men women and children on my hands just as much as there is blood on the hands of the current tyrannical regime and those who supported it and continue to support it. I do not ascribe to a policy around maintaining the largest most comfortable middle class we can have irrespective of being conscientious citizens of the world. I would rather be poor than vote for that party.
Where to put my political energy.
Stand my ground on this explain to anyone who will listen the apathy vs. conscience issue. Never ever have television service. Stay as debt free and as free of cravings for comfort and security including job security or selling houses, so that those issues do not interfere with my courage to formulate and state my opinion for life, not just in my 20’s and to listen to and support a truly wise and just leader(ship) or a revolution of some sort when one comes on the scene and just in the case someday my fellow U.S. citizens are ready to do the same.Some people say this revolution/evolution has already started. I expect moreso the former than the latter. One can hope.
January 13, 2008 at 11:28 AM in reply to: OT: Indian casino propositions? And vote for prez? #135388NotCranky
Participant“This government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.”
I ask anyone who believes this:
Why are you going to the polls?
That is the biggest confirmation that you don’t care if there is any change. As long as people vote or don’t vote and stay at home and watch TV or slave away mindlessly to pay debt these elections are a relative success for both parties.I won’t vote for any of the people that are really likely to win and I have not for years. Is that apathy? No it is conscience. We deserve better and so does the world.
Should I vote for the lesser of two evils? No that is incredibly apathetic. Besides, I can’t decide who that is no matter how hard I try. I am not sure I have met anyone who uses that phrase who also isn’t ultimately just lazily voting their own psychological or material self interest. Either way it is apathetic.
Voting my self interest would unjustly put the blood of innocent men women and children on my hands just as much as there is blood on the hands of the current tyrannical regime and those who supported it and continue to support it. I do not ascribe to a policy around maintaining the largest most comfortable middle class we can have irrespective of being conscientious citizens of the world. I would rather be poor than vote for that party.
Where to put my political energy.
Stand my ground on this explain to anyone who will listen the apathy vs. conscience issue. Never ever have television service. Stay as debt free and as free of cravings for comfort and security including job security or selling houses, so that those issues do not interfere with my courage to formulate and state my opinion for life, not just in my 20’s and to listen to and support a truly wise and just leader(ship) or a revolution of some sort when one comes on the scene and just in the case someday my fellow U.S. citizens are ready to do the same.Some people say this revolution/evolution has already started. I expect moreso the former than the latter. One can hope.
NotCranky
ParticipantJumby, my use of “slime ball” was hypothetical.
He might turn out to be that, as so many politicians are, but for now I have faith that he is not.NotCranky
ParticipantJumby, my use of “slime ball” was hypothetical.
He might turn out to be that, as so many politicians are, but for now I have faith that he is not.NotCranky
ParticipantJumby, my use of “slime ball” was hypothetical.
He might turn out to be that, as so many politicians are, but for now I have faith that he is not.NotCranky
ParticipantJumby, my use of “slime ball” was hypothetical.
He might turn out to be that, as so many politicians are, but for now I have faith that he is not.NotCranky
ParticipantJumby, my use of “slime ball” was hypothetical.
He might turn out to be that, as so many politicians are, but for now I have faith that he is not.NotCranky
ParticipantAllan,
I think we are the ones being handled and he is rocking the boat. On the other hand, maybe the typical candidates are just speaking to a larger audience. There is a frightening thought for you.
Revolution is not a joke for me. I just don’t want to go it alone. I think we could make a lot of headway organizing boycotts and such on the Internet . Boycotts would be more effective now than ever. Imagine everybody canceling cable service, newspapers and all periodicals to start with.
I don’t agree with RP on some things but find out I do agree on more things if I study his thinking on the topics. You get so used to sound bites being the end all, which is a big mistake with this man. For the most part the other candidates all seem much more manipulative. I know they are much more sophisticated than they let on and that is also a problem. It makes me not trust them.
Ron Paul may turn out to be a slime ball. Who knows? Until then, I see him bringing something different to the game. Unfortuantely,I don’t think he has a chance in hell of going anywhere.
If our country was being run by people on his level, even if they disagreed, I might even put a flag in my front yard and encourage my kids say a modified pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of American. One nation under repectable executive, legislative and Judicial branches of government, believing in whichever God we individually choose or none………..
When the Pols started to screw up again I would take the flag down and have a talk with my kids about that pledge. That way we could signal another revolution eh Patriot? Si!Viva La Revolution!
NotCranky
ParticipantAllan,
I think we are the ones being handled and he is rocking the boat. On the other hand, maybe the typical candidates are just speaking to a larger audience. There is a frightening thought for you.
Revolution is not a joke for me. I just don’t want to go it alone. I think we could make a lot of headway organizing boycotts and such on the Internet . Boycotts would be more effective now than ever. Imagine everybody canceling cable service, newspapers and all periodicals to start with.
I don’t agree with RP on some things but find out I do agree on more things if I study his thinking on the topics. You get so used to sound bites being the end all, which is a big mistake with this man. For the most part the other candidates all seem much more manipulative. I know they are much more sophisticated than they let on and that is also a problem. It makes me not trust them.
Ron Paul may turn out to be a slime ball. Who knows? Until then, I see him bringing something different to the game. Unfortuantely,I don’t think he has a chance in hell of going anywhere.
If our country was being run by people on his level, even if they disagreed, I might even put a flag in my front yard and encourage my kids say a modified pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of American. One nation under repectable executive, legislative and Judicial branches of government, believing in whichever God we individually choose or none………..
When the Pols started to screw up again I would take the flag down and have a talk with my kids about that pledge. That way we could signal another revolution eh Patriot? Si!Viva La Revolution!
NotCranky
ParticipantAllan,
I think we are the ones being handled and he is rocking the boat. On the other hand, maybe the typical candidates are just speaking to a larger audience. There is a frightening thought for you.
Revolution is not a joke for me. I just don’t want to go it alone. I think we could make a lot of headway organizing boycotts and such on the Internet . Boycotts would be more effective now than ever. Imagine everybody canceling cable service, newspapers and all periodicals to start with.
I don’t agree with RP on some things but find out I do agree on more things if I study his thinking on the topics. You get so used to sound bites being the end all, which is a big mistake with this man. For the most part the other candidates all seem much more manipulative. I know they are much more sophisticated than they let on and that is also a problem. It makes me not trust them.
Ron Paul may turn out to be a slime ball. Who knows? Until then, I see him bringing something different to the game. Unfortuantely,I don’t think he has a chance in hell of going anywhere.
If our country was being run by people on his level, even if they disagreed, I might even put a flag in my front yard and encourage my kids say a modified pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of American. One nation under repectable executive, legislative and Judicial branches of government, believing in whichever God we individually choose or none………..
When the Pols started to screw up again I would take the flag down and have a talk with my kids about that pledge. That way we could signal another revolution eh Patriot? Si!Viva La Revolution!
NotCranky
ParticipantAllan,
I think we are the ones being handled and he is rocking the boat. On the other hand, maybe the typical candidates are just speaking to a larger audience. There is a frightening thought for you.
Revolution is not a joke for me. I just don’t want to go it alone. I think we could make a lot of headway organizing boycotts and such on the Internet . Boycotts would be more effective now than ever. Imagine everybody canceling cable service, newspapers and all periodicals to start with.
I don’t agree with RP on some things but find out I do agree on more things if I study his thinking on the topics. You get so used to sound bites being the end all, which is a big mistake with this man. For the most part the other candidates all seem much more manipulative. I know they are much more sophisticated than they let on and that is also a problem. It makes me not trust them.
Ron Paul may turn out to be a slime ball. Who knows? Until then, I see him bringing something different to the game. Unfortuantely,I don’t think he has a chance in hell of going anywhere.
If our country was being run by people on his level, even if they disagreed, I might even put a flag in my front yard and encourage my kids say a modified pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of American. One nation under repectable executive, legislative and Judicial branches of government, believing in whichever God we individually choose or none………..
When the Pols started to screw up again I would take the flag down and have a talk with my kids about that pledge. That way we could signal another revolution eh Patriot? Si!Viva La Revolution!
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