[NotCranky]

Good discussion, A lot of life’s fulfillment , by design , has to come on separate terms. We are not clones. Separate but not aloof is about right at times, plain old fashioned together is good. Sometimes together and aloof is necessary ,no big wall building ,show respect on decision making …keep your promises wherever you go until and unless you undo them first .

I think it’s less about “baggage” and more about deep inner qualities.
Be careful that the baggage thing is not too much about paranoid score keeping and greed for face saving and being able to paint some kind of phony picture for yourself , your family and friends and the world.

[NotCranky]

The focus of Ebola misery is pretty much going to stay where it is at until it unwinds , hopefully soon.

I think that conclusion can be drawn from this.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/ebola-outbreak/map-how-the-ebola-outbreak-spread-through-africa/

[NotCranky]

I guess I has jumped around reading old comments , CaRenter.
You can label the different bad acts by gender but it doesn’t change the water seeks it’s own level thing. Since you agree with me on the water seeks it’s own level, I find it odd, or perhaps hypocritical that you decidedly favor women on break-ups. I love you like a sister CaRenter,but like my real life sisters you are biased about these things weighing in favor of women. Probably as natural as treating men like they are permanently inadequate once the nest is full but demanding slave like responsibility from them just the same. Men don;’t get what they want and need to the degree that women do under these circumstances and I have not even mentioned sex yet. In this light looking for a newer model makes more sense and does not interfere with water seeks it’s own level or make men or women worse than the other one. It’s complicated.

Abandonment is interesting. There are biological forces that apply here too.
The woman knows the kids are hers. The mother in law knows the kids are hers.
Up until a few years ago the man new he had to work with or without kids and often but not always gives child support. Those are cultural aspects.

So, I am not saying this stuff is ideal but if you want to look like a broad minded person on this topic and not your basic man hater, you will have to look at this topic more broadly and express your views with a nuance that reflects that you have. But nobody changes the way they are , so carry on.

I think I am going to strut now.

I don’t usually like to stifle people but if you argue back at all you will be proving my point. Back to the aforementioned strutting.

[NotCranky]

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[quote=scaredyclassic]the answer to the “baggage” question is easy;

exactly as much and no more than what kev says is fine.

anything else is noooooo
the new kev wouldnt even ask the question. it implies he is seeking approval from others. the new kev doesnt give a flying fuck what the world or girls or anyone thinks about him. because he is THE SHIT.

other people hope to meet with HIS approval[/quote]

[NotCranky]

Didn’t science prove that it’s better not to raise your kids in a highly sanitized environment? I don’t have a link but it seems like that was news a few years back. Maybe even our pediatrician was saying it.

[NotCranky]

Just got the elementary school district email about Ebola.

There has got to be a business opportunity in this. Maybe a line of Gluten and Ebola free breakfast cereals?

[NotCranky]

Someone spoofed South Western College on Ebola.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/oct/16/southwestern-college-ebola-student-closed/

[NotCranky]

[quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]The making a family stage is the easiest as far as maintaining a pair bond. Kids are consciousness altering for the better even it they do poop their diapers all the time .

Loyalty is an interesting topic and thanks to CaRenter I am considering the possibility of getting kicked to the curb when the kids are out of the house in about 10 years. Never really trust anyone. Thanks CaRenter! You have spoken well for your gender.[/quote]

I must have missed something here. Why do you think you’ll be kicked to the curb in 10 years? And how did I convince you of that?

It wasn’t about me in particular but somewhere in this thread people were talking about 7 year itch and
…

And as far as kids making it easier to bond with your spouse…the fact that you say that means that you’re probably an excellent father and husband (which I’ve always assumed about you, BTW). But all too often, making babies is where the rubber meets the road; and far too many males start heading for the exit, either directly (straight abandonment) or indirectly (by becoming such a repulsive, selfish louse that he essentially forces the wife to divorce him) once the babies are born.[/quote]

It wasn’t about me in particular but somewhere in this thread people were talking about 7 year itch and 20 year ditch and you mentioned that women often choose a break-up after the kids are out of the house. Nice. The man got to be a sperm donor and then was deceived as to his worth until he was needed less. Out sucker!

As far as men becoming lousy obnoxious losers and abandoners after kids, I think you mean it becomes evident at this time that the water seeking it’s own level didn’t blend well? Why do you usually paint women and union workers as the biggest victims in life? Currently, I see at least as many seriously defective young mothers as fathers.

It makes sense that men are less relevant , or even easily seen as inadequate as Scaredy points out, after the kids get a few years on them.
More so post industrial revolution than before. 100 + years ago a wife might see a man as important in the mentoring of her children to run the farm or learn the family trade but now, Kahn academy does that important stuff….what are we good for ?

[NotCranky]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]The making a family stage is the easiest as far as maintaining a pair bond. Kids are consciousness altering for the better even it they do poop their diapers all the time .

Loyalty is an interesting topic and thanks to CaRenter I am considering the possibility of getting kicked to the curb when the kids are out of the house in about 10 years. Never really trust anyone. Thanks CaRenter! You have spoken well for your gender.[/quote]

I must have missed something here. Why do you think you’ll be kicked to the curb in 10 years? And how did I convince you of that?

…

And as far as kids making it easier to bond with your spouse…the fact that you say that means that you’re probably an excellent father and husband (which I’ve always assumed about you, BTW). But all too often, making babies is where the rubber meets the road; and far too many males start heading for the exit, either directly (straight abandonment) or indirectly (by becoming such a repulsive, selfish louse that he essentially forces the wife to divorce him) once the babies are born.[/quote]

IME it doesn’t matter if the guy is a good or bad dad… His wife will see him as useless either way[/quote]

Cycle of life. Nothing to get bent out of shape about.

[NotCranky]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar]The making a family stage is the easiest as far as maintaining a pair bond. Kids are consciousness altering for the better even it they do poop their diapers all the time .

Loyalty is an interesting topic and thanks to CaRenter I am considering the possibility of getting kicked to the curb when the kids are out of the house in about 10 years. Never really trust anyone. Thanks CaRenter! You have spoken well for your gender.[/quote]

Once the kids are a little older the males inadequacy comes into better focus again.[/quote]
Is that ICU time or flat line?[/quote]

Just part of the cycle of life. Females view males as useless and dumb or overbearing and a b surd. I think even in the animal kingdom males are ridiculed. Surplusage.[/quote]
That makes a lot of sense. We are in the animal kingdom btw.

[NotCranky]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar]The making a family stage is the easiest as far as maintaining a pair bond. Kids are consciousness altering for the better even it they do poop their diapers all the time .

Loyalty is an interesting topic and thanks to CaRenter I am considering the possibility of getting kicked to the curb when the kids are out of the house in about 10 years. Never really trust anyone. Thanks CaRenter! You have spoken well for your gender.[/quote]

Once the kids are a little older the males inadequacy comes into better focus again.[/quote]
Is that ICU time or flat line?

[NotCranky]

[quote=SD Realtor]Agreed… nothing to see here… time to move along…

My prediction, which I sincerely hope is incorrect, is that our daily life will be changing for us all pretty soon.

Just a guess but logic and probability pretty much point in that direction.[/quote]

I doubt Ebola is going to be it. Disease warfare could be part of our future once the “terrorist” make inevitable progress at hitting us here. That’s when daily life will be changing.

[NotCranky]

The making a family stage is the easiest as far as maintaining a pair bond. Kids are consciousness altering for the better even it they do poop their diapers all the time .

Loyalty is an interesting topic and thanks to CaRenter I am considering the possibility of getting kicked to the curb when the kids are out of the house in about 10 years. Never really trust anyone. Thanks CaRenter! You have spoken well for your gender.

[NotCranky]

[quote=spdrun]Kills bacteria? Removes stains? Boils Ebola viruses to death?[/quote]
I think soap and cold water work fine.

Proof: I haven’t gotten Ebola yet.

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