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ParticipantPolice don’t work for me I know that,most of them would bash my head in in a minute if told to do so, same with military. No need to point that out. My point simply was, everyone lies in court, or uses the potential to do so as power. However the incentives(for the attorney and the client) or ethics want to be construed.
ParticipantDo cops/ DA know how much lying their cases will come up against? Yes. They live with this every day. How many cases are settled with a hand slap because it is too costly to fight against defense lies, I mean alternate versions? Are the cops kind of powerless to do their jobs because of it , some might think so.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar]The defense attorneys don’t know what happened? I think often times they do.
At that point the alternative story is a lie. Protected legal lie maybe, but it’s still a lie. Those lies empower criminals to hit the streets again much earlier than if the defense refused with honesty, to bargain with them well before court. When they go to court with a lie , that’s what it is.[/quote]No. They do not know. The story may seem unlikely, or implausible, but if that’s true, the factfinder should be able to see through that.
Sometimes very unlikely implausible stories turn out to be true. it is not up to the attorney to judge whether it is true or not, because she simply doesn’t know.[/quote]
Lets say “she” is defending me and I tell “her” ,yes, I robbed the bank but I don’t want to plead guilty because I have a pretty bad criminal history and that will be considered in sentencing. Now “she” knows , do attorneys drop those cases or present some alternate story that I did not rob the bank?
ParticipantThe defense attorneys don’t know what happened? I think often times they do.
At that point the alternative story is a lie. Protected legal lie maybe, but it’s still a lie. Those lies empower criminals to hit the streets again much earlier than if the defense refused with honesty, to bargain with them well before court. When they go to court with a lie , that’s what it is.ParticipantI imagine most cops will lie though, and most of their supervisors will back them if they can get away with it.
ParticipantDefense attorneys don’t fabricate on behalf of their clients? Parade a bunch of liars through the court. People who they put together for some bullshit Con whether the result is possibly to revictimize actual victims and society at large? Maybe get some scumbag off who killed plenty of times, who killed maimed and in other ways traumatized people? Yeah they do and sometimes they get the tax payer to pick up the tab for most of it or all of it too.
April 12, 2015 at 10:49 PM in reply to: The cost of an Ivy League undergrad degree next year…. #784652ParticipantJust an aside:
Many people with very high IQ’s are very unable to change their erroneous zones of logic on important topics. It sort of cripples them because they know they have delved into sophisticated arguments/topics well beyond what the ordinary person has. It makes it impossible to stop being fixated on wrong thinking, when a person of lower intellect can often improve in leaps in bounds.Intelligence ain’t everything, it sometimes means that some people are just better at fooling themselves than others.
April 12, 2015 at 10:41 PM in reply to: The cost of an Ivy League undergrad degree next year…. #784651ParticipantHighest gifted score at my kids school was the son of two uneducated immigrants who live in a converted garage in exchange for work. I think it was the Raven test. He got 99 or 100.
Another son of mine has a classmate, one of the brightest and best cared for of his peers, who has two very “have it together” Ivy parents. Her brother is autistic in a way that is going to severely limit his achievements, though he is a very nice boy. I think cases like these , across a spectrum of course, are really common.ParticipantTHat’s a relief I think ant farm people tend towards being sociopaths.
I am a composter extraordinaire , really. Worms are overrated. Turning is the way to go. Get a compost thermometer and see how hot you can get the compost pile by the way you mix various carboniferous and nitrogenous matter and water. I have had them over 160F, a little too hot for worms.
I grew all kinds of amazing fruits and vegetables with no added worms, have a great no worm added garden now and the roses do great year after year on homemade compost and nothing else. Everything does unless you have plants that need acidic soil. Succulents like a little homemade compost in their potting soil.
ParticipantI never liked the sight of an ant farm. They seem like one of the most unfair things ever. I hate ants too. You should kill them where they are fair and square not stick ’em in a box, or a stupid little gimmicky watch , and make them live unnaturally until they are neglected and die, which is inevitable. On the other hand the succulent farm sounds good.
ParticipantI make my disposable razors last longer. DId you know that if you dry them off after shaving that they last up to four times as long? What you are doing by that is basically overriding the planned obsolescence factor built into each razor. They have a little strip above the blades that dissolves, making them not ride correctly so you have to toss them. If you shave quickly and dry them off it doesn’t dissolve.
ParticipantIt seems like Brian Williams should be diagnosed with a genetic disorder given some pharmaceutical assistance and be reinstated without stigma. It works for everything else nowadays, why not for puffing up your life experiences?
ParticipantUsually we get someone on these threads who argues that they are they healthy kind of fat. I don’t think that happened here but here is a recent rebuttal to that argument. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/energize-your-eggs-11-easy-ways-better-breakfast-n284756
To be fair , lots of asymptomatic skinny people are going to get sicker over 20 years too, if not metabolic or cardiac problems something else will get them(us), especially if the 20 years covers something like ages 50-70 or 60 to 80.
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