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Participant3) If a home is zoned a “Single-Family residence” does this type of arrangement violate city code? (At the minimum it seems a fire hazard for the occupants)
Some code compliance offices do not allow anonymous complaints. So in case you are considering complaining check it out.
The code compliance officer is not supposed to say anything. I have met people who have said the code compliance people let the cat out of the bag. If code compliance shows up, don’t take it for granted that things will change much.
Be careful.NotCranky
Participant3) If a home is zoned a “Single-Family residence” does this type of arrangement violate city code? (At the minimum it seems a fire hazard for the occupants)
Some code compliance offices do not allow anonymous complaints. So in case you are considering complaining check it out.
The code compliance officer is not supposed to say anything. I have met people who have said the code compliance people let the cat out of the bag. If code compliance shows up, don’t take it for granted that things will change much.
Be careful.NotCranky
Participantsdr said: ” Rustico I think its time for you to revisit the “What is your household income” thread. The vast majority of those on this board are not median wage earners. This board is dominated by highly paid professionals and upwardly mobile young professionals who are on their way to becoming the former. Personally, I believe they should be able to get something they “love”!
sdr”I imagine they will weigh in if they want to. I think I will heed what Bugs said, that most of us “have more in common than not.”
Even if the eventual price tag, is different I think the nature of the blog and your motivation to post your original posts confirms that, regardless of income or wealth, most of those who haven’t purchased yet consider a potential loss more important than “love” right now or that they are not willing to go after a little “love” right now and risk paying too much, when they anticipate they can likely get a lot of “love” later and get a better deal on it.
Of the regulars here, I surmise that most of us who want to own, given the market conditions, do own already. Each to his own.
This is your original post:
Reading Chris’s post of late have brought me back to something that was a strong position I hold personally that I’ve lost touch with a little. Houses are for living and enjoying. They are not and should not be financial instruments. I figured that of anyone here, he would be the one to time the bottom. But he’s much wiser than I would have thought. He found exactly what he wanted, at a price he could afford and I’ll bet he’s enjoying the heck out of his life these days.
There is a great irony on this board to me. Many of you are genuinely pissed off that people viewed homes as financial instruments and drove the prices up through speculation. However, when you look at housing all you want to focus on is the price and buying at the bottom.
I’m not advocating everyone to buy right now but the real decision point should be can I afford it, do I love it, is this the place I can reside for the next 10+ years and yes, is the price reasonable by some metric. There is way too much focus on the last point around here IMO.”
Best wishes
Chris, Thanks for pitching in in. It is a little awkward talking about an absentee third party like we did. Thanks for taking it well.
NotCranky
Participantsdr said: ” Rustico I think its time for you to revisit the “What is your household income” thread. The vast majority of those on this board are not median wage earners. This board is dominated by highly paid professionals and upwardly mobile young professionals who are on their way to becoming the former. Personally, I believe they should be able to get something they “love”!
sdr”I imagine they will weigh in if they want to. I think I will heed what Bugs said, that most of us “have more in common than not.”
Even if the eventual price tag, is different I think the nature of the blog and your motivation to post your original posts confirms that, regardless of income or wealth, most of those who haven’t purchased yet consider a potential loss more important than “love” right now or that they are not willing to go after a little “love” right now and risk paying too much, when they anticipate they can likely get a lot of “love” later and get a better deal on it.
Of the regulars here, I surmise that most of us who want to own, given the market conditions, do own already. Each to his own.
This is your original post:
Reading Chris’s post of late have brought me back to something that was a strong position I hold personally that I’ve lost touch with a little. Houses are for living and enjoying. They are not and should not be financial instruments. I figured that of anyone here, he would be the one to time the bottom. But he’s much wiser than I would have thought. He found exactly what he wanted, at a price he could afford and I’ll bet he’s enjoying the heck out of his life these days.
There is a great irony on this board to me. Many of you are genuinely pissed off that people viewed homes as financial instruments and drove the prices up through speculation. However, when you look at housing all you want to focus on is the price and buying at the bottom.
I’m not advocating everyone to buy right now but the real decision point should be can I afford it, do I love it, is this the place I can reside for the next 10+ years and yes, is the price reasonable by some metric. There is way too much focus on the last point around here IMO.”
Best wishes
Chris, Thanks for pitching in in. It is a little awkward talking about an absentee third party like we did. Thanks for taking it well.
NotCranky
Participant“do I love it,”
For those of us not having the luxury or desire to have all and or only things we “love”. I would substitute. “Does it work for me(us)”. I think plenty of us are starting to consider “Does it work for me(us), if this economy really unwinds beyond losing a little equity in a house. In that case “what’s love got to do with it?”NotCranky
Participant“do I love it,”
For those of us not having the luxury or desire to have all and or only things we “love”. I would substitute. “Does it work for me(us)”. I think plenty of us are starting to consider “Does it work for me(us), if this economy really unwinds beyond losing a little equity in a house. In that case “what’s love got to do with it?”NotCranky
Participant(Hope you don’t mind my sense of humor)
One must be able to take what one dishes out.
Yes I knew you had a comeback. There are variables. Notice can be given for any reason, except some forms of prejudice. You don’t have to say the reason but selling a house is a good enough one if you do.
“Do you need the rent money? I think you need the money more than I need the house. Aren’t you the one attempting a short sale?”
I do have to sell it and its hard to do with a hostile non- door opening tenant.
Could be, maybe I will move back in or have another tenant. Maybe I don’t care.Do most tenants like this much conflict?I think most will just put up with it, with or without some display of tension or move.Tenants probably don’t have to show the place and very some times a listing will show that a hostile tenant is present and a signed offer is a condition of seeing the property.
NotCranky
Participant(Hope you don’t mind my sense of humor)
One must be able to take what one dishes out.
Yes I knew you had a comeback. There are variables. Notice can be given for any reason, except some forms of prejudice. You don’t have to say the reason but selling a house is a good enough one if you do.
“Do you need the rent money? I think you need the money more than I need the house. Aren’t you the one attempting a short sale?”
I do have to sell it and its hard to do with a hostile non- door opening tenant.
Could be, maybe I will move back in or have another tenant. Maybe I don’t care.Do most tenants like this much conflict?I think most will just put up with it, with or without some display of tension or move.Tenants probably don’t have to show the place and very some times a listing will show that a hostile tenant is present and a signed offer is a condition of seeing the property.
NotCranky
Participantsdr,
Chris can probably afford to have his priorities alligned that way. Good for him. Lots of people who can don’t and personally I would hold them up as a shining examples of individuals with well organized priorites too. More people can’t afford Chris’s priorities or really shouldn’t try to.Also, I read his posts on his blog yesterday and he is quite proud of his timing and value swap from his previous ownership. He did what he did based on his opinions of proper timing. I don’t see where that is so different from what others here are trying to do.
I think we all acknowlege the warm, fuzzy, special component of home ownership but we don’t need to be told what weight of perspective to apply to it, anymore than we need to be told how to dress or what to drive.
My opinion is that until someone is pretty well off they had better make good investing compatible with renting or home ownership and remodeling too. I also understand that you are speaking to an audience here that won’t face financial collapse for a bad investment in a house so you get some sympathy there.
As Bugs did, I suppose it is fair to say that I still own my home and for many of the reasons that you and Chris point out.It is nicer than what we need and I have made it that way(although I am sure it is nothing special to many piggingtonians). It also has potential aside from appreciation in the market.If not I would sell it. Does that mean I think other people should do what I do. Absolutely not.
NotCranky
Participantsdr,
Chris can probably afford to have his priorities alligned that way. Good for him. Lots of people who can don’t and personally I would hold them up as a shining examples of individuals with well organized priorites too. More people can’t afford Chris’s priorities or really shouldn’t try to.Also, I read his posts on his blog yesterday and he is quite proud of his timing and value swap from his previous ownership. He did what he did based on his opinions of proper timing. I don’t see where that is so different from what others here are trying to do.
I think we all acknowlege the warm, fuzzy, special component of home ownership but we don’t need to be told what weight of perspective to apply to it, anymore than we need to be told how to dress or what to drive.
My opinion is that until someone is pretty well off they had better make good investing compatible with renting or home ownership and remodeling too. I also understand that you are speaking to an audience here that won’t face financial collapse for a bad investment in a house so you get some sympathy there.
As Bugs did, I suppose it is fair to say that I still own my home and for many of the reasons that you and Chris point out.It is nicer than what we need and I have made it that way(although I am sure it is nothing special to many piggingtonians). It also has potential aside from appreciation in the market.If not I would sell it. Does that mean I think other people should do what I do. Absolutely not.
NotCranky
ParticipantPerry you just got notice to vacate as outlined in the contract.
Have a nice day :).NotCranky
ParticipantPerry you just got notice to vacate as outlined in the contract.
Have a nice day :).NotCranky
ParticipantI hate to see this eclectic area get a bad rap, or a lukewarm review, even though I can absolutely see it is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is an extremely good location geographically speaking.Easy access to all kinds of nice places, education, health and and employment centers. There are many interesting people and businesses.It has one of the best “micro climates” in the county. There are trade offs, for some,the mostly questionable housing stock and a other negatives are worth it. I spent most of the last 25 years living in a few of these zip codes.
NotCranky
ParticipantI hate to see this eclectic area get a bad rap, or a lukewarm review, even though I can absolutely see it is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is an extremely good location geographically speaking.Easy access to all kinds of nice places, education, health and and employment centers. There are many interesting people and businesses.It has one of the best “micro climates” in the county. There are trade offs, for some,the mostly questionable housing stock and a other negatives are worth it. I spent most of the last 25 years living in a few of these zip codes.
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