[lostkitty]

jg – “May your husband have an awakening,”

He’s already had that “awakening” you mention. That is why he stopped going to church!

Let me tell you how it went….
Young, nice, polite, accomplished, blonde blue eyed Catholic boy meets totally smokin’ hot long legged SoCal natural beach girl (that would be me). They date for a few years, he asks her to marry him. She is not Catholic, but was for the first 5 years of her life, until her alcoholic father left his wife and five children so he could have the freedom to sit in a bar without getting nagged about passing out on the living room floor in front of the children each evening afterwards.
Her mother went looking for guidance from the priest. She cried, wondering how she was going to make the transition from stay-at-home RSF mom, with hired help, to full-time working mother on a nurse’s salary with five kids aged 3,5,6,10, and 11 in a tiny little tract home. She was given no help or sympathy, but rather told she should repent, etc etc.
She tried to comply (she was raised as a strict Catholic girl), but one day as she watch the gay priest – who, BTW, was always blatanly flirting with her 10yr old son –flitting/sashaying/waltzing down the aisle at Mass (she had heard rumblings about their gay cocaine parties as well – which were all confirmed by the newspapers a few years later) — it suddenly occured to her…. “F*%k this Sh*t! I DID NOTHING WRONG HERE! Who are these guys to judge me.” That was they day she learned to think for herself – and stopped attending the Catholic church.

So, back to the early 90’s part of the story. Nice Catholic blonde boy takes sunkissed wife-to-be to the Catholic church to discuss marriage. The priest says that although future wife was baptised Catholic and is currently attending Mass regularly with husband to be, she did not go through 1st Communion so they cannot be married. Priest gives young maiden lots of up-n-down eyeball evaluation, and then tells couple how he will be oh-so-generous in this situation, and offers that if couple finds their own priest, he’ll be generous enough to let them use his church for the service (for a small fee).
The nice catholic boy was offended. How could his church, who he has served and worshipped at for his entire life, turn away the woman he loves, the woman he has carefully chosen to marry?
Viola! Awakening…

My husband is a well-read individual, and knows perfectly well that it was the rituals and stories in his religion that he was worshipping, and so our kids have attended CCD from the earliest ages, until the age when ‘reason” takes over (about the same time they realize Santa is not a real person)… Just long enough to learn the stories of the Good Samaritan, etc. The Bible has excellent lessons for living in society. i do not dispute that, but there are also some horrible, intolerant messages in there, and I NEVER want my kids to follow along blindly ‘because they should’. I believe that is exactly how my mom got into the predicament that she did. She married this guy, and then was stuck because of the “rules” she lived by as dictated to her by her church.
She is now a VERY strong, happy and satisfied 73 year old woman… living near the beach in SB, and always speaking her mind. All her children went to college and or post-grad, and are functioning individuals. We drink, but none of us to excess… She did this with no financial help from anyone at all.. She also did not need the church.

[lostkitty]

sdrealtor's response to this thread says all we need to know:

"The answer is different for everyone and there is no right or wrong answer. Some go it alone and are fine. Some go it alone and get slaughtered. More often then not when I look at someone getting slaughtered … often, the highly suspect representation was an agent representing themselves. "

So, some go alone and are fine, like I was: a 27 year-old stay-at-home new mother, with no realestate license at all, sold FSBO, used a real estate lawyer for closings, and even started a FSBO newspaper which is still in operation today …. and some get slaughtered, which, in sdr's own words are very often agents representing themselves.

 I think realtors are useful for busy people who cannot do the research or are not familiar with an area.  They are also useful for busy sellers who cannot be there to open the house up for lookers.  For both buyers and sellers, they are useful for paperwork filling out (time consuming).  However, they are WAY overpaid for these services.

Like airline pilot pay, which we suffered through a severe cut-back in (and chose to leave that career), real estate agents are probably facing the same in the near future.

[lostkitty]

sdrealtor's response to this thread says all we need to know:

"The answer is different for everyone and there is no right or wrong answer. Some go it alone and are fine. Some go it alone and get slaughtered. More often then not when I look at someone getting slaughtered … often, the highly suspect representation was an agent representing themselves. "

So, some go alone and are fine, like I was: a 27 year-old stay-at-home new mother, with no realestate license at all, sold FSBO, used a real estate lawyer for closings, and even started a FSBO newspaper which is still in operation today …. and some get slaughtered, which, in sdr's own words are very often agents representing themselves.

 I think realtors are useful for busy people who cannot do the research or are not familiar with an area.  They are also useful for busy sellers who cannot be there to open the house up for lookers.  For both buyers and sellers, they are useful for paperwork filling out (time consuming).  However, they are WAY overpaid for these services.

Like airline pilot pay, which we suffered through a severe cut-back in (and chose to leave that career), real estate agents are probably facing the same in the near future.

[lostkitty]

I remember powayseller recommending a name about a year ago here. If you cant find it in a search of piggington, then visit her website and ask her. I think it is http://www.californiahousingforecast.com, or something very similar to that.

[lostkitty]

I remember powayseller recommending a name about a year ago here. If you cant find it in a search of piggington, then visit her website and ask her. I think it is http://www.californiahousingforecast.com, or something very similar to that.

[lostkitty]

San Diego Native-

You wrote: "Many of us who have owned property here for years–now free and clear–just don't think about these things…  no one I know in La Jolla or other coastal areas is buying or selling, so until friends asked our opinion about buying in the near future, we hadn't given it much thought."

Hasn't the rapid growth in San Diego given you or your other Native friends any concern at all?  My family has been in San Diego for decades and decades.. We watch the freeways, streets, (and sewers!) clog up with total disappointment.  It may not affect the price of your house, but this bublble certainly has had an effect on your quality of life.  Do you agree?  Getting into LJ has become an exercise in patience.

[lostkitty]

San Diego Native-

You wrote: "Many of us who have owned property here for years–now free and clear–just don't think about these things…  no one I know in La Jolla or other coastal areas is buying or selling, so until friends asked our opinion about buying in the near future, we hadn't given it much thought."

Hasn't the rapid growth in San Diego given you or your other Native friends any concern at all?  My family has been in San Diego for decades and decades.. We watch the freeways, streets, (and sewers!) clog up with total disappointment.  It may not affect the price of your house, but this bublble certainly has had an effect on your quality of life.  Do you agree?  Getting into LJ has become an exercise in patience.

[lostkitty]

I was just kidding, you are the same age, you couldnt have worked for him. Maybe you sat next to him at Mass. He used to live in LaJolla, right on Coast Blvd…. I lived on Pearl St at the time. He was a good Catholic boy and attended that something-or-other ‘by-the-Sea’ church, near or next to Bishops. I cant remember the name of it just this minute (must be my advanced age). He was a Hoover-vacuum pilot (S-3’s). Cruised on so many carriers, I cant keep them straight. He also went to Test Pilot School in Pax River MD.

[lostkitty]

I was just kidding, you are the same age, you couldnt have worked for him. Maybe you sat next to him at Mass. He used to live in LaJolla, right on Coast Blvd…. I lived on Pearl St at the time. He was a good Catholic boy and attended that something-or-other ‘by-the-Sea’ church, near or next to Bishops. I cant remember the name of it just this minute (must be my advanced age). He was a Hoover-vacuum pilot (S-3’s). Cruised on so many carriers, I cant keep them straight. He also went to Test Pilot School in Pax River MD.

[lostkitty]

Same age as my husband. He is not as crotchety as you are… He does not have creaky knees either. Although you accused him of sitting on the couch drinking beer, he’s actually in training to do the Lake Placid Ironman (but I confess, he loves beer).
You were definitely in the Navy at the same time, but he stayed slightly longer. You probably worked for him….

[lostkitty]

Same age as my husband. He is not as crotchety as you are… He does not have creaky knees either. Although you accused him of sitting on the couch drinking beer, he’s actually in training to do the Lake Placid Ironman (but I confess, he loves beer).
You were definitely in the Navy at the same time, but he stayed slightly longer. You probably worked for him….

[lostkitty]

I lived in one of those newer billyboxes. It was terrible! It was new, which was a welcome change from the other nasty rentals we’d had, but there was not a room in the house where you could have true privacy.
You can see in every window when sandwiched between a row of those buildings. The backyards are all completely exposed. Only way to get privacy is to let some shrubs grow tall, but then you lose the sunshine on your 9X9 patio.

I am simply stunned that anyone would pay over a million for one of those. Even $800k seems insane!, for half a house?! and half a yard?!

[lostkitty]

I lived in one of those newer billyboxes. It was terrible! It was new, which was a welcome change from the other nasty rentals we’d had, but there was not a room in the house where you could have true privacy.
You can see in every window when sandwiched between a row of those buildings. The backyards are all completely exposed. Only way to get privacy is to let some shrubs grow tall, but then you lose the sunshine on your 9X9 patio.

I am simply stunned that anyone would pay over a million for one of those. Even $800k seems insane!, for half a house?! and half a yard?!

[lostkitty]

Oh you ARE a funny one JG! No stopping your quick wit… and evasive, you never told us how old you are. Just curious.

We dont need Botox here. No sun = minimal wrinkles. I have no varicose veins (or as my sister calls them “VeryGross Veins”), so never considered that either. Plastic surgery is not popular here, if a girl walked in the room with big fake boobs, everyone would snicker.

I tell you, things are different in NY. I used to see all the moms show up at Coronado to pick their kids up from school. All blonde! What is the percentage of women over 30 who are actually still naturally blonde? Even my Swedish in-law needs a little help with that now, and she was a tow-head even in college.

Teeth however, are white and straight in upstate NY. Braces are popular. They are practically slapping those things on preschoolers nowadays.

[lostkitty]

Oh you ARE a funny one JG! No stopping your quick wit… and evasive, you never told us how old you are. Just curious.

We dont need Botox here. No sun = minimal wrinkles. I have no varicose veins (or as my sister calls them “VeryGross Veins”), so never considered that either. Plastic surgery is not popular here, if a girl walked in the room with big fake boobs, everyone would snicker.

I tell you, things are different in NY. I used to see all the moms show up at Coronado to pick their kids up from school. All blonde! What is the percentage of women over 30 who are actually still naturally blonde? Even my Swedish in-law needs a little help with that now, and she was a tow-head even in college.

Teeth however, are white and straight in upstate NY. Braces are popular. They are practically slapping those things on preschoolers nowadays.

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