[kicksavedave]

One more thing about house training. Even if you do everything right, its possible that your dog will have an accident or two at some point. You may not see it doing the sniff looking for a place to potty, or you may come home and discover a nice pile in the corner.

Its important when this happens that you avoid any and all emotional response, no angry “what did you do”, no rubbing his nose in it. Just clean it up and continue to show the dog where to go and those accidents will reduce to nothing in time.

The issue is that dogs have associative memory, but not connective memory. When you come home and get mad at that pile in the corner and take it out on the dog, ALL the dog knows is that when you come home you are likely to be irrational and angry. The dog has no concept that the reason you are mad is because of him going potty where he’s not supposed to. By using any negative reinforcement well after the fact, the dog is unable to make the connection between you punishing him and what he did to cause it. All he can do is know that you appear to be angry for reasons unknown. It can lead to the dog becoming afraid or unsure about you, which can lead to any form of other behavior problems.

Its critical, as others have pointed out, that any corrective actions or reinforcement be made at the instant the dog is performing the unwanted act. Even a few seconds later and the connection between the act and the correction can be lost. Minutes or hours later and its assuredly lost. Positive reinforcement is the same way… right in the act of doing the proper behavior is the time to praise, not 10 seconds later when you fish the treat out of your pocket.

Good luck with the puppy… little bundles of joy 🙂

[kicksavedave]

One more thing about house training. Even if you do everything right, its possible that your dog will have an accident or two at some point. You may not see it doing the sniff looking for a place to potty, or you may come home and discover a nice pile in the corner.

Its important when this happens that you avoid any and all emotional response, no angry “what did you do”, no rubbing his nose in it. Just clean it up and continue to show the dog where to go and those accidents will reduce to nothing in time.

The issue is that dogs have associative memory, but not connective memory. When you come home and get mad at that pile in the corner and take it out on the dog, ALL the dog knows is that when you come home you are likely to be irrational and angry. The dog has no concept that the reason you are mad is because of him going potty where he’s not supposed to. By using any negative reinforcement well after the fact, the dog is unable to make the connection between you punishing him and what he did to cause it. All he can do is know that you appear to be angry for reasons unknown. It can lead to the dog becoming afraid or unsure about you, which can lead to any form of other behavior problems.

Its critical, as others have pointed out, that any corrective actions or reinforcement be made at the instant the dog is performing the unwanted act. Even a few seconds later and the connection between the act and the correction can be lost. Minutes or hours later and its assuredly lost. Positive reinforcement is the same way… right in the act of doing the proper behavior is the time to praise, not 10 seconds later when you fish the treat out of your pocket.

Good luck with the puppy… little bundles of joy 🙂

[kicksavedave]

One more thing about house training. Even if you do everything right, its possible that your dog will have an accident or two at some point. You may not see it doing the sniff looking for a place to potty, or you may come home and discover a nice pile in the corner.

Its important when this happens that you avoid any and all emotional response, no angry “what did you do”, no rubbing his nose in it. Just clean it up and continue to show the dog where to go and those accidents will reduce to nothing in time.

The issue is that dogs have associative memory, but not connective memory. When you come home and get mad at that pile in the corner and take it out on the dog, ALL the dog knows is that when you come home you are likely to be irrational and angry. The dog has no concept that the reason you are mad is because of him going potty where he’s not supposed to. By using any negative reinforcement well after the fact, the dog is unable to make the connection between you punishing him and what he did to cause it. All he can do is know that you appear to be angry for reasons unknown. It can lead to the dog becoming afraid or unsure about you, which can lead to any form of other behavior problems.

Its critical, as others have pointed out, that any corrective actions or reinforcement be made at the instant the dog is performing the unwanted act. Even a few seconds later and the connection between the act and the correction can be lost. Minutes or hours later and its assuredly lost. Positive reinforcement is the same way… right in the act of doing the proper behavior is the time to praise, not 10 seconds later when you fish the treat out of your pocket.

Good luck with the puppy… little bundles of joy 🙂

[kicksavedave]

One more thing about house training. Even if you do everything right, its possible that your dog will have an accident or two at some point. You may not see it doing the sniff looking for a place to potty, or you may come home and discover a nice pile in the corner.

Its important when this happens that you avoid any and all emotional response, no angry “what did you do”, no rubbing his nose in it. Just clean it up and continue to show the dog where to go and those accidents will reduce to nothing in time.

The issue is that dogs have associative memory, but not connective memory. When you come home and get mad at that pile in the corner and take it out on the dog, ALL the dog knows is that when you come home you are likely to be irrational and angry. The dog has no concept that the reason you are mad is because of him going potty where he’s not supposed to. By using any negative reinforcement well after the fact, the dog is unable to make the connection between you punishing him and what he did to cause it. All he can do is know that you appear to be angry for reasons unknown. It can lead to the dog becoming afraid or unsure about you, which can lead to any form of other behavior problems.

Its critical, as others have pointed out, that any corrective actions or reinforcement be made at the instant the dog is performing the unwanted act. Even a few seconds later and the connection between the act and the correction can be lost. Minutes or hours later and its assuredly lost. Positive reinforcement is the same way… right in the act of doing the proper behavior is the time to praise, not 10 seconds later when you fish the treat out of your pocket.

Good luck with the puppy… little bundles of joy 🙂

[kicksavedave]

One more thing about house training. Even if you do everything right, its possible that your dog will have an accident or two at some point. You may not see it doing the sniff looking for a place to potty, or you may come home and discover a nice pile in the corner.

Its important when this happens that you avoid any and all emotional response, no angry “what did you do”, no rubbing his nose in it. Just clean it up and continue to show the dog where to go and those accidents will reduce to nothing in time.

The issue is that dogs have associative memory, but not connective memory. When you come home and get mad at that pile in the corner and take it out on the dog, ALL the dog knows is that when you come home you are likely to be irrational and angry. The dog has no concept that the reason you are mad is because of him going potty where he’s not supposed to. By using any negative reinforcement well after the fact, the dog is unable to make the connection between you punishing him and what he did to cause it. All he can do is know that you appear to be angry for reasons unknown. It can lead to the dog becoming afraid or unsure about you, which can lead to any form of other behavior problems.

Its critical, as others have pointed out, that any corrective actions or reinforcement be made at the instant the dog is performing the unwanted act. Even a few seconds later and the connection between the act and the correction can be lost. Minutes or hours later and its assuredly lost. Positive reinforcement is the same way… right in the act of doing the proper behavior is the time to praise, not 10 seconds later when you fish the treat out of your pocket.

Good luck with the puppy… little bundles of joy 🙂

[kicksavedave]

I’ve looked at maybe 10 short sales over the last few months. I think two were occupied. One the “renter”s (I won’t call them owners or sellers) were on vacation, but the house was in disrepair and messy. The other one, the scumbag occupant followed me around telling me how great the house was and how it was a steal and I should “take his word for it”. It was a disgusting experience and I can promise that house won’t sell until he’s gone.

I assume the other 8 that were vacant were about to have the foreclosures made final, and the occupants didn’t want to have to actually have the Sheriff remove them.

[kicksavedave]

I’ve looked at maybe 10 short sales over the last few months. I think two were occupied. One the “renter”s (I won’t call them owners or sellers) were on vacation, but the house was in disrepair and messy. The other one, the scumbag occupant followed me around telling me how great the house was and how it was a steal and I should “take his word for it”. It was a disgusting experience and I can promise that house won’t sell until he’s gone.

I assume the other 8 that were vacant were about to have the foreclosures made final, and the occupants didn’t want to have to actually have the Sheriff remove them.

[kicksavedave]

I’ve looked at maybe 10 short sales over the last few months. I think two were occupied. One the “renter”s (I won’t call them owners or sellers) were on vacation, but the house was in disrepair and messy. The other one, the scumbag occupant followed me around telling me how great the house was and how it was a steal and I should “take his word for it”. It was a disgusting experience and I can promise that house won’t sell until he’s gone.

I assume the other 8 that were vacant were about to have the foreclosures made final, and the occupants didn’t want to have to actually have the Sheriff remove them.

[kicksavedave]

I’ve looked at maybe 10 short sales over the last few months. I think two were occupied. One the “renter”s (I won’t call them owners or sellers) were on vacation, but the house was in disrepair and messy. The other one, the scumbag occupant followed me around telling me how great the house was and how it was a steal and I should “take his word for it”. It was a disgusting experience and I can promise that house won’t sell until he’s gone.

I assume the other 8 that were vacant were about to have the foreclosures made final, and the occupants didn’t want to have to actually have the Sheriff remove them.

[kicksavedave]

I’ve looked at maybe 10 short sales over the last few months. I think two were occupied. One the “renter”s (I won’t call them owners or sellers) were on vacation, but the house was in disrepair and messy. The other one, the scumbag occupant followed me around telling me how great the house was and how it was a steal and I should “take his word for it”. It was a disgusting experience and I can promise that house won’t sell until he’s gone.

I assume the other 8 that were vacant were about to have the foreclosures made final, and the occupants didn’t want to have to actually have the Sheriff remove them.

[kicksavedave]

[quote=CA renter][quote=andymajumder]Not a homeowner…but I would I careful what I wish for. Las Vegas probably has reached or is close to 2000 nominal pricing. But, if that were to happen in SD or in most parts of CaliforniaUS, we would probably be in a depression. Eventually…it doesn’t matter much if you are renter or a owner if you don’t have a job and the country is in a sever depression, things will be very bad for all of us.[/quote]

I question this undying belief that lower housing prices would cause a depression.

Since housing prices are determined by the prices paid by new buyers, high housing prices are actually a drain on the economy. In order for any *sustainable* benefit to be derived from high housing prices, the sellers would have to sell and rent or scale down to a less expensive home — freeing up the “profits” to be spent somewhere else in the economy.

People mistakenly believe that the HELOCs and cash-out refis enabled by higher housing prices are somehow a net positive. They aren’t. The only thing someone is doing when the HELOC/cash-out refi their home is adding on to their debt burden *and using the house as collateral* which simply means that they are giving rights to the lender to foreclose on them if the debt is not paid as per their agreement. Debt, by its very nature, pulls economic activity forward *at the expense of future economic activity.* As a matter of fact, debt pulls more from the future than it brings to the present because of the interest payments that need to be made.

Lower housing prices are exactly what’s needed to allow us to rebuild a **sustainable** recovery that doesn’t harm future activity. Lower prices free up more money as wages — with no debt offset — can be spent on more productive/beneficial endeavours.[/quote]

My wife tells me all the time that she wants our payment to be under $XXXX so that we can “take lots of nice vacations”. This speaks to your theory. If we are house poor, I’m not saving up and getting a new TV any time soon. And since the free money spigot has been shut off, I can’t borrow from the house to buy one either.

Lower housing prices would definitely have me spreading more money around the economy. Frankly, I’m allergic to saving anyway 🙂

[kicksavedave]

[quote=CA renter][quote=andymajumder]Not a homeowner…but I would I careful what I wish for. Las Vegas probably has reached or is close to 2000 nominal pricing. But, if that were to happen in SD or in most parts of CaliforniaUS, we would probably be in a depression. Eventually…it doesn’t matter much if you are renter or a owner if you don’t have a job and the country is in a sever depression, things will be very bad for all of us.[/quote]

I question this undying belief that lower housing prices would cause a depression.

Since housing prices are determined by the prices paid by new buyers, high housing prices are actually a drain on the economy. In order for any *sustainable* benefit to be derived from high housing prices, the sellers would have to sell and rent or scale down to a less expensive home — freeing up the “profits” to be spent somewhere else in the economy.

People mistakenly believe that the HELOCs and cash-out refis enabled by higher housing prices are somehow a net positive. They aren’t. The only thing someone is doing when the HELOC/cash-out refi their home is adding on to their debt burden *and using the house as collateral* which simply means that they are giving rights to the lender to foreclose on them if the debt is not paid as per their agreement. Debt, by its very nature, pulls economic activity forward *at the expense of future economic activity.* As a matter of fact, debt pulls more from the future than it brings to the present because of the interest payments that need to be made.

Lower housing prices are exactly what’s needed to allow us to rebuild a **sustainable** recovery that doesn’t harm future activity. Lower prices free up more money as wages — with no debt offset — can be spent on more productive/beneficial endeavours.[/quote]

My wife tells me all the time that she wants our payment to be under $XXXX so that we can “take lots of nice vacations”. This speaks to your theory. If we are house poor, I’m not saving up and getting a new TV any time soon. And since the free money spigot has been shut off, I can’t borrow from the house to buy one either.

Lower housing prices would definitely have me spreading more money around the economy. Frankly, I’m allergic to saving anyway 🙂

[kicksavedave]

[quote=CA renter][quote=andymajumder]Not a homeowner…but I would I careful what I wish for. Las Vegas probably has reached or is close to 2000 nominal pricing. But, if that were to happen in SD or in most parts of CaliforniaUS, we would probably be in a depression. Eventually…it doesn’t matter much if you are renter or a owner if you don’t have a job and the country is in a sever depression, things will be very bad for all of us.[/quote]

I question this undying belief that lower housing prices would cause a depression.

Since housing prices are determined by the prices paid by new buyers, high housing prices are actually a drain on the economy. In order for any *sustainable* benefit to be derived from high housing prices, the sellers would have to sell and rent or scale down to a less expensive home — freeing up the “profits” to be spent somewhere else in the economy.

People mistakenly believe that the HELOCs and cash-out refis enabled by higher housing prices are somehow a net positive. They aren’t. The only thing someone is doing when the HELOC/cash-out refi their home is adding on to their debt burden *and using the house as collateral* which simply means that they are giving rights to the lender to foreclose on them if the debt is not paid as per their agreement. Debt, by its very nature, pulls economic activity forward *at the expense of future economic activity.* As a matter of fact, debt pulls more from the future than it brings to the present because of the interest payments that need to be made.

Lower housing prices are exactly what’s needed to allow us to rebuild a **sustainable** recovery that doesn’t harm future activity. Lower prices free up more money as wages — with no debt offset — can be spent on more productive/beneficial endeavours.[/quote]

My wife tells me all the time that she wants our payment to be under $XXXX so that we can “take lots of nice vacations”. This speaks to your theory. If we are house poor, I’m not saving up and getting a new TV any time soon. And since the free money spigot has been shut off, I can’t borrow from the house to buy one either.

Lower housing prices would definitely have me spreading more money around the economy. Frankly, I’m allergic to saving anyway 🙂

[kicksavedave]

[quote=CA renter][quote=andymajumder]Not a homeowner…but I would I careful what I wish for. Las Vegas probably has reached or is close to 2000 nominal pricing. But, if that were to happen in SD or in most parts of CaliforniaUS, we would probably be in a depression. Eventually…it doesn’t matter much if you are renter or a owner if you don’t have a job and the country is in a sever depression, things will be very bad for all of us.[/quote]

I question this undying belief that lower housing prices would cause a depression.

Since housing prices are determined by the prices paid by new buyers, high housing prices are actually a drain on the economy. In order for any *sustainable* benefit to be derived from high housing prices, the sellers would have to sell and rent or scale down to a less expensive home — freeing up the “profits” to be spent somewhere else in the economy.

People mistakenly believe that the HELOCs and cash-out refis enabled by higher housing prices are somehow a net positive. They aren’t. The only thing someone is doing when the HELOC/cash-out refi their home is adding on to their debt burden *and using the house as collateral* which simply means that they are giving rights to the lender to foreclose on them if the debt is not paid as per their agreement. Debt, by its very nature, pulls economic activity forward *at the expense of future economic activity.* As a matter of fact, debt pulls more from the future than it brings to the present because of the interest payments that need to be made.

Lower housing prices are exactly what’s needed to allow us to rebuild a **sustainable** recovery that doesn’t harm future activity. Lower prices free up more money as wages — with no debt offset — can be spent on more productive/beneficial endeavours.[/quote]

My wife tells me all the time that she wants our payment to be under $XXXX so that we can “take lots of nice vacations”. This speaks to your theory. If we are house poor, I’m not saving up and getting a new TV any time soon. And since the free money spigot has been shut off, I can’t borrow from the house to buy one either.

Lower housing prices would definitely have me spreading more money around the economy. Frankly, I’m allergic to saving anyway 🙂

[kicksavedave]

[quote=CA renter][quote=andymajumder]Not a homeowner…but I would I careful what I wish for. Las Vegas probably has reached or is close to 2000 nominal pricing. But, if that were to happen in SD or in most parts of CaliforniaUS, we would probably be in a depression. Eventually…it doesn’t matter much if you are renter or a owner if you don’t have a job and the country is in a sever depression, things will be very bad for all of us.[/quote]

I question this undying belief that lower housing prices would cause a depression.

Since housing prices are determined by the prices paid by new buyers, high housing prices are actually a drain on the economy. In order for any *sustainable* benefit to be derived from high housing prices, the sellers would have to sell and rent or scale down to a less expensive home — freeing up the “profits” to be spent somewhere else in the economy.

People mistakenly believe that the HELOCs and cash-out refis enabled by higher housing prices are somehow a net positive. They aren’t. The only thing someone is doing when the HELOC/cash-out refi their home is adding on to their debt burden *and using the house as collateral* which simply means that they are giving rights to the lender to foreclose on them if the debt is not paid as per their agreement. Debt, by its very nature, pulls economic activity forward *at the expense of future economic activity.* As a matter of fact, debt pulls more from the future than it brings to the present because of the interest payments that need to be made.

Lower housing prices are exactly what’s needed to allow us to rebuild a **sustainable** recovery that doesn’t harm future activity. Lower prices free up more money as wages — with no debt offset — can be spent on more productive/beneficial endeavours.[/quote]

My wife tells me all the time that she wants our payment to be under $XXXX so that we can “take lots of nice vacations”. This speaks to your theory. If we are house poor, I’m not saving up and getting a new TV any time soon. And since the free money spigot has been shut off, I can’t borrow from the house to buy one either.

Lower housing prices would definitely have me spreading more money around the economy. Frankly, I’m allergic to saving anyway 🙂

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