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KIBU
ParticipantI envy your well travel Brian.
On the Chinese tours, I heard they shop a lot, it’s great. Also, I wonder if some of those tours include real estate tours for investments?
KIBU
ParticipantI envy your well travel Brian.
On the Chinese tours, I heard they shop a lot, it’s great. Also, I wonder if some of those tours include real estate tours for investments?
KIBU
ParticipantI envy your well travel Brian.
On the Chinese tours, I heard they shop a lot, it’s great. Also, I wonder if some of those tours include real estate tours for investments?
KIBU
ParticipantI envy your well travel Brian.
On the Chinese tours, I heard they shop a lot, it’s great. Also, I wonder if some of those tours include real estate tours for investments?
KIBU
ParticipantChina may not be the most powerful force in the world yet, but definitely it’s the most powerful and a growing aggresive force in Asia. Its soft power and influence are what will complicate American’s foreign policy there. Think that the US can buy and retain allies there that easy? Think again, since the US will have to compete with China very hard in this region. China’s influence throughout South East Asia is powerful, deep and complex that the US will find that it can be treacherous and risky endeavor to engage. China pour billions of dollars to the region and has close relationships and support networks of corruptions that can disrupt reliable relationships with the US. China also play the role of supporter of the corrupt ruling class and dictatorship regimes as the likes in Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, for China’s interests.
Nations there regularly have to bow down to China’s pressures. In an example below, you see that some countries Americans take for granted as our allies: the Philippines, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam bow down to China’s boycott of the Nobel Peace prize ceremony:
KIBU
ParticipantChina may not be the most powerful force in the world yet, but definitely it’s the most powerful and a growing aggresive force in Asia. Its soft power and influence are what will complicate American’s foreign policy there. Think that the US can buy and retain allies there that easy? Think again, since the US will have to compete with China very hard in this region. China’s influence throughout South East Asia is powerful, deep and complex that the US will find that it can be treacherous and risky endeavor to engage. China pour billions of dollars to the region and has close relationships and support networks of corruptions that can disrupt reliable relationships with the US. China also play the role of supporter of the corrupt ruling class and dictatorship regimes as the likes in Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, for China’s interests.
Nations there regularly have to bow down to China’s pressures. In an example below, you see that some countries Americans take for granted as our allies: the Philippines, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam bow down to China’s boycott of the Nobel Peace prize ceremony:
KIBU
ParticipantChina may not be the most powerful force in the world yet, but definitely it’s the most powerful and a growing aggresive force in Asia. Its soft power and influence are what will complicate American’s foreign policy there. Think that the US can buy and retain allies there that easy? Think again, since the US will have to compete with China very hard in this region. China’s influence throughout South East Asia is powerful, deep and complex that the US will find that it can be treacherous and risky endeavor to engage. China pour billions of dollars to the region and has close relationships and support networks of corruptions that can disrupt reliable relationships with the US. China also play the role of supporter of the corrupt ruling class and dictatorship regimes as the likes in Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, for China’s interests.
Nations there regularly have to bow down to China’s pressures. In an example below, you see that some countries Americans take for granted as our allies: the Philippines, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam bow down to China’s boycott of the Nobel Peace prize ceremony:
KIBU
ParticipantChina may not be the most powerful force in the world yet, but definitely it’s the most powerful and a growing aggresive force in Asia. Its soft power and influence are what will complicate American’s foreign policy there. Think that the US can buy and retain allies there that easy? Think again, since the US will have to compete with China very hard in this region. China’s influence throughout South East Asia is powerful, deep and complex that the US will find that it can be treacherous and risky endeavor to engage. China pour billions of dollars to the region and has close relationships and support networks of corruptions that can disrupt reliable relationships with the US. China also play the role of supporter of the corrupt ruling class and dictatorship regimes as the likes in Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, for China’s interests.
Nations there regularly have to bow down to China’s pressures. In an example below, you see that some countries Americans take for granted as our allies: the Philippines, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam bow down to China’s boycott of the Nobel Peace prize ceremony:
KIBU
ParticipantChina may not be the most powerful force in the world yet, but definitely it’s the most powerful and a growing aggresive force in Asia. Its soft power and influence are what will complicate American’s foreign policy there. Think that the US can buy and retain allies there that easy? Think again, since the US will have to compete with China very hard in this region. China’s influence throughout South East Asia is powerful, deep and complex that the US will find that it can be treacherous and risky endeavor to engage. China pour billions of dollars to the region and has close relationships and support networks of corruptions that can disrupt reliable relationships with the US. China also play the role of supporter of the corrupt ruling class and dictatorship regimes as the likes in Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, for China’s interests.
Nations there regularly have to bow down to China’s pressures. In an example below, you see that some countries Americans take for granted as our allies: the Philippines, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam bow down to China’s boycott of the Nobel Peace prize ceremony:
KIBU
ParticipantSome interesting quotes from the Washington post’s article “Pyongyang’s Accomplice, The WikiLeaks cables reveal a China that abets North Korea’s WMD proliferation”:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704594804575648473842565004.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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“China has also played a key role in abetting the North’s proliferation schemes. A November 2007 memo signed by then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complains that shipments of North Korean ballistic missile jet vanes “frequently transit Beijing on regularly scheduled flights” but that the Chinese had failed to act on specific information provided by the U.S. and despite a direct appeal by President Bush to Chinese paramount leader Hu Jintao.
That pattern of behavior remains unchanged. An October report by the Congressional Research Service notes that the “seaborne cargo of North Korean arms seized in Dubai in July 2009 had visited several Chinese ports and was transported from Dalian, China, to Shanghai aboard a Chinese ship, again without a Chinese effort to conduct a search. Overland routes for procurement of WMD-related goods are reportedly also common, due to the participation of Chinese entities.”
The CRS report is also interesting for the light it sheds on how the Chinese prop up North Korea’s Kim dynasty. Resolution 1874, adopted by the U.N. Security Council last year after the North conducted its second nuclear test, forbids the sale of luxury goods to North Korea—goods Kim Jong Il uses to buy off his elites. Yet China exported $136.1 million worth of such goods to North Korea in 2009, including “160 luxury cars (made in China) to directors of provincial committees of the Korean Workers Party and to municipal committee secretaries.”
Why the warm embrace? In one of the most interesting of the leaked cables—a report of a conversation last year between Lee Kuan Yew and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg—Singapore’s Minister Mentor suggests an answer. “The Chinese,” he said, “do not want North Korea, which China sees as a buffer state, to collapse. [South Korea] would take over in the North and China would face a U.S. presence at its border.”
Mr. Lee is right that Beijing must make hard-headed calculations regarding the North: China cannot escape its shared border, and the effects of the North’s collapse would be immediately felt on its side of the Yalu.
But the interests of “stability” cannot account for China’s role in facilitating the North’s proliferation of dangerous material to the rest of the world. Nor can China’s refusal to restrain the North from fomenting serial crises on the Korean peninsula be explained as the deeds of a power interested in maintaining a peaceful status quo. The Kim regime’s militarism is destabilizing in Northeast Asia and its proliferation is a source of global mayhem.
China’s support for such a regime for so many years suggests that Beijing may see strategic benefit in the North’s behavior. It may want a proxy that discomfits its neighbors and makes South Korea and Japan wonder if they can trust the U.S. defense umbrella. Perhaps some in the politburo or People’s Liberation Army think this is a way that China can assert its regional authority and drive the U.S. out of the Northeast Pacific. If so, they are mistaken.
From what we can glean from the cables, it’s encouraging to see that the Obama Administration seems to have few illusions about North Korea and the abetting role played by China. Compared to Mr. Bush in his second term, this Administration has been relatively tough and realistic. But if China really is the key to better North Korean behavior, then Washington will have to confront Beijing more bluntly than it has dared so far”.
KIBU
ParticipantSome interesting quotes from the Washington post’s article “Pyongyang’s Accomplice, The WikiLeaks cables reveal a China that abets North Korea’s WMD proliferation”:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704594804575648473842565004.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Quote:
“China has also played a key role in abetting the North’s proliferation schemes. A November 2007 memo signed by then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complains that shipments of North Korean ballistic missile jet vanes “frequently transit Beijing on regularly scheduled flights” but that the Chinese had failed to act on specific information provided by the U.S. and despite a direct appeal by President Bush to Chinese paramount leader Hu Jintao.
That pattern of behavior remains unchanged. An October report by the Congressional Research Service notes that the “seaborne cargo of North Korean arms seized in Dubai in July 2009 had visited several Chinese ports and was transported from Dalian, China, to Shanghai aboard a Chinese ship, again without a Chinese effort to conduct a search. Overland routes for procurement of WMD-related goods are reportedly also common, due to the participation of Chinese entities.”
The CRS report is also interesting for the light it sheds on how the Chinese prop up North Korea’s Kim dynasty. Resolution 1874, adopted by the U.N. Security Council last year after the North conducted its second nuclear test, forbids the sale of luxury goods to North Korea—goods Kim Jong Il uses to buy off his elites. Yet China exported $136.1 million worth of such goods to North Korea in 2009, including “160 luxury cars (made in China) to directors of provincial committees of the Korean Workers Party and to municipal committee secretaries.”
Why the warm embrace? In one of the most interesting of the leaked cables—a report of a conversation last year between Lee Kuan Yew and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg—Singapore’s Minister Mentor suggests an answer. “The Chinese,” he said, “do not want North Korea, which China sees as a buffer state, to collapse. [South Korea] would take over in the North and China would face a U.S. presence at its border.”
Mr. Lee is right that Beijing must make hard-headed calculations regarding the North: China cannot escape its shared border, and the effects of the North’s collapse would be immediately felt on its side of the Yalu.
But the interests of “stability” cannot account for China’s role in facilitating the North’s proliferation of dangerous material to the rest of the world. Nor can China’s refusal to restrain the North from fomenting serial crises on the Korean peninsula be explained as the deeds of a power interested in maintaining a peaceful status quo. The Kim regime’s militarism is destabilizing in Northeast Asia and its proliferation is a source of global mayhem.
China’s support for such a regime for so many years suggests that Beijing may see strategic benefit in the North’s behavior. It may want a proxy that discomfits its neighbors and makes South Korea and Japan wonder if they can trust the U.S. defense umbrella. Perhaps some in the politburo or People’s Liberation Army think this is a way that China can assert its regional authority and drive the U.S. out of the Northeast Pacific. If so, they are mistaken.
From what we can glean from the cables, it’s encouraging to see that the Obama Administration seems to have few illusions about North Korea and the abetting role played by China. Compared to Mr. Bush in his second term, this Administration has been relatively tough and realistic. But if China really is the key to better North Korean behavior, then Washington will have to confront Beijing more bluntly than it has dared so far”.
KIBU
ParticipantSome interesting quotes from the Washington post’s article “Pyongyang’s Accomplice, The WikiLeaks cables reveal a China that abets North Korea’s WMD proliferation”:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704594804575648473842565004.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Quote:
“China has also played a key role in abetting the North’s proliferation schemes. A November 2007 memo signed by then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complains that shipments of North Korean ballistic missile jet vanes “frequently transit Beijing on regularly scheduled flights” but that the Chinese had failed to act on specific information provided by the U.S. and despite a direct appeal by President Bush to Chinese paramount leader Hu Jintao.
That pattern of behavior remains unchanged. An October report by the Congressional Research Service notes that the “seaborne cargo of North Korean arms seized in Dubai in July 2009 had visited several Chinese ports and was transported from Dalian, China, to Shanghai aboard a Chinese ship, again without a Chinese effort to conduct a search. Overland routes for procurement of WMD-related goods are reportedly also common, due to the participation of Chinese entities.”
The CRS report is also interesting for the light it sheds on how the Chinese prop up North Korea’s Kim dynasty. Resolution 1874, adopted by the U.N. Security Council last year after the North conducted its second nuclear test, forbids the sale of luxury goods to North Korea—goods Kim Jong Il uses to buy off his elites. Yet China exported $136.1 million worth of such goods to North Korea in 2009, including “160 luxury cars (made in China) to directors of provincial committees of the Korean Workers Party and to municipal committee secretaries.”
Why the warm embrace? In one of the most interesting of the leaked cables—a report of a conversation last year between Lee Kuan Yew and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg—Singapore’s Minister Mentor suggests an answer. “The Chinese,” he said, “do not want North Korea, which China sees as a buffer state, to collapse. [South Korea] would take over in the North and China would face a U.S. presence at its border.”
Mr. Lee is right that Beijing must make hard-headed calculations regarding the North: China cannot escape its shared border, and the effects of the North’s collapse would be immediately felt on its side of the Yalu.
But the interests of “stability” cannot account for China’s role in facilitating the North’s proliferation of dangerous material to the rest of the world. Nor can China’s refusal to restrain the North from fomenting serial crises on the Korean peninsula be explained as the deeds of a power interested in maintaining a peaceful status quo. The Kim regime’s militarism is destabilizing in Northeast Asia and its proliferation is a source of global mayhem.
China’s support for such a regime for so many years suggests that Beijing may see strategic benefit in the North’s behavior. It may want a proxy that discomfits its neighbors and makes South Korea and Japan wonder if they can trust the U.S. defense umbrella. Perhaps some in the politburo or People’s Liberation Army think this is a way that China can assert its regional authority and drive the U.S. out of the Northeast Pacific. If so, they are mistaken.
From what we can glean from the cables, it’s encouraging to see that the Obama Administration seems to have few illusions about North Korea and the abetting role played by China. Compared to Mr. Bush in his second term, this Administration has been relatively tough and realistic. But if China really is the key to better North Korean behavior, then Washington will have to confront Beijing more bluntly than it has dared so far”.
KIBU
ParticipantSome interesting quotes from the Washington post’s article “Pyongyang’s Accomplice, The WikiLeaks cables reveal a China that abets North Korea’s WMD proliferation”:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704594804575648473842565004.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Quote:
“China has also played a key role in abetting the North’s proliferation schemes. A November 2007 memo signed by then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complains that shipments of North Korean ballistic missile jet vanes “frequently transit Beijing on regularly scheduled flights” but that the Chinese had failed to act on specific information provided by the U.S. and despite a direct appeal by President Bush to Chinese paramount leader Hu Jintao.
That pattern of behavior remains unchanged. An October report by the Congressional Research Service notes that the “seaborne cargo of North Korean arms seized in Dubai in July 2009 had visited several Chinese ports and was transported from Dalian, China, to Shanghai aboard a Chinese ship, again without a Chinese effort to conduct a search. Overland routes for procurement of WMD-related goods are reportedly also common, due to the participation of Chinese entities.”
The CRS report is also interesting for the light it sheds on how the Chinese prop up North Korea’s Kim dynasty. Resolution 1874, adopted by the U.N. Security Council last year after the North conducted its second nuclear test, forbids the sale of luxury goods to North Korea—goods Kim Jong Il uses to buy off his elites. Yet China exported $136.1 million worth of such goods to North Korea in 2009, including “160 luxury cars (made in China) to directors of provincial committees of the Korean Workers Party and to municipal committee secretaries.”
Why the warm embrace? In one of the most interesting of the leaked cables—a report of a conversation last year between Lee Kuan Yew and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg—Singapore’s Minister Mentor suggests an answer. “The Chinese,” he said, “do not want North Korea, which China sees as a buffer state, to collapse. [South Korea] would take over in the North and China would face a U.S. presence at its border.”
Mr. Lee is right that Beijing must make hard-headed calculations regarding the North: China cannot escape its shared border, and the effects of the North’s collapse would be immediately felt on its side of the Yalu.
But the interests of “stability” cannot account for China’s role in facilitating the North’s proliferation of dangerous material to the rest of the world. Nor can China’s refusal to restrain the North from fomenting serial crises on the Korean peninsula be explained as the deeds of a power interested in maintaining a peaceful status quo. The Kim regime’s militarism is destabilizing in Northeast Asia and its proliferation is a source of global mayhem.
China’s support for such a regime for so many years suggests that Beijing may see strategic benefit in the North’s behavior. It may want a proxy that discomfits its neighbors and makes South Korea and Japan wonder if they can trust the U.S. defense umbrella. Perhaps some in the politburo or People’s Liberation Army think this is a way that China can assert its regional authority and drive the U.S. out of the Northeast Pacific. If so, they are mistaken.
From what we can glean from the cables, it’s encouraging to see that the Obama Administration seems to have few illusions about North Korea and the abetting role played by China. Compared to Mr. Bush in his second term, this Administration has been relatively tough and realistic. But if China really is the key to better North Korean behavior, then Washington will have to confront Beijing more bluntly than it has dared so far”.
KIBU
ParticipantSome interesting quotes from the Washington post’s article “Pyongyang’s Accomplice, The WikiLeaks cables reveal a China that abets North Korea’s WMD proliferation”:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704594804575648473842565004.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Quote:
“China has also played a key role in abetting the North’s proliferation schemes. A November 2007 memo signed by then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complains that shipments of North Korean ballistic missile jet vanes “frequently transit Beijing on regularly scheduled flights” but that the Chinese had failed to act on specific information provided by the U.S. and despite a direct appeal by President Bush to Chinese paramount leader Hu Jintao.
That pattern of behavior remains unchanged. An October report by the Congressional Research Service notes that the “seaborne cargo of North Korean arms seized in Dubai in July 2009 had visited several Chinese ports and was transported from Dalian, China, to Shanghai aboard a Chinese ship, again without a Chinese effort to conduct a search. Overland routes for procurement of WMD-related goods are reportedly also common, due to the participation of Chinese entities.”
The CRS report is also interesting for the light it sheds on how the Chinese prop up North Korea’s Kim dynasty. Resolution 1874, adopted by the U.N. Security Council last year after the North conducted its second nuclear test, forbids the sale of luxury goods to North Korea—goods Kim Jong Il uses to buy off his elites. Yet China exported $136.1 million worth of such goods to North Korea in 2009, including “160 luxury cars (made in China) to directors of provincial committees of the Korean Workers Party and to municipal committee secretaries.”
Why the warm embrace? In one of the most interesting of the leaked cables—a report of a conversation last year between Lee Kuan Yew and U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg—Singapore’s Minister Mentor suggests an answer. “The Chinese,” he said, “do not want North Korea, which China sees as a buffer state, to collapse. [South Korea] would take over in the North and China would face a U.S. presence at its border.”
Mr. Lee is right that Beijing must make hard-headed calculations regarding the North: China cannot escape its shared border, and the effects of the North’s collapse would be immediately felt on its side of the Yalu.
But the interests of “stability” cannot account for China’s role in facilitating the North’s proliferation of dangerous material to the rest of the world. Nor can China’s refusal to restrain the North from fomenting serial crises on the Korean peninsula be explained as the deeds of a power interested in maintaining a peaceful status quo. The Kim regime’s militarism is destabilizing in Northeast Asia and its proliferation is a source of global mayhem.
China’s support for such a regime for so many years suggests that Beijing may see strategic benefit in the North’s behavior. It may want a proxy that discomfits its neighbors and makes South Korea and Japan wonder if they can trust the U.S. defense umbrella. Perhaps some in the politburo or People’s Liberation Army think this is a way that China can assert its regional authority and drive the U.S. out of the Northeast Pacific. If so, they are mistaken.
From what we can glean from the cables, it’s encouraging to see that the Obama Administration seems to have few illusions about North Korea and the abetting role played by China. Compared to Mr. Bush in his second term, this Administration has been relatively tough and realistic. But if China really is the key to better North Korean behavior, then Washington will have to confront Beijing more bluntly than it has dared so far”.
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