[jstoesz]

haha…not my favorite person in the world. But if you have read anything about Mark Dayton (likely next governor), you might think Bachmann was a hallmark of sanity. Minnesotans are horrible voters (see Jesse the Body Ventura), but they sure as hell are no worse than California. I am not trying to leave for the politics…I am trying to leave because of the pervasive values. The lack of responsibility and rampant materialism that is so ubiquitous in Southern California chiefly is the reason for my dislike of it here.

It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive.

pri_dk, I do love the outdoors dearly, and it is one of the other reasons I do not want to go to MN too soon. I can not wait for the proximity to my favorite place on earth, the sierras. They are what brought me here, and they are the last thing keeping me here.

[jstoesz]

haha…not my favorite person in the world. But if you have read anything about Mark Dayton (likely next governor), you might think Bachmann was a hallmark of sanity. Minnesotans are horrible voters (see Jesse the Body Ventura), but they sure as hell are no worse than California. I am not trying to leave for the politics…I am trying to leave because of the pervasive values. The lack of responsibility and rampant materialism that is so ubiquitous in Southern California chiefly is the reason for my dislike of it here.

It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive.

pri_dk, I do love the outdoors dearly, and it is one of the other reasons I do not want to go to MN too soon. I can not wait for the proximity to my favorite place on earth, the sierras. They are what brought me here, and they are the last thing keeping me here.

[jstoesz]

I think this is a precursor to a trade/currency war. Tariff is not such a bad word in lots of countries, and money printing is easier for China/india/brazil then it is for us. So we either get a race to the bottom in currency valuation (Armageddon) or we get rising tariffs and there is nothing to buy because we don’t make crap (Armageddon).

[jstoesz]

I think this is a precursor to a trade/currency war. Tariff is not such a bad word in lots of countries, and money printing is easier for China/india/brazil then it is for us. So we either get a race to the bottom in currency valuation (Armageddon) or we get rising tariffs and there is nothing to buy because we don’t make crap (Armageddon).

[jstoesz]

I think this is a precursor to a trade/currency war. Tariff is not such a bad word in lots of countries, and money printing is easier for China/india/brazil then it is for us. So we either get a race to the bottom in currency valuation (Armageddon) or we get rising tariffs and there is nothing to buy because we don’t make crap (Armageddon).

[jstoesz]

I think this is a precursor to a trade/currency war. Tariff is not such a bad word in lots of countries, and money printing is easier for China/india/brazil then it is for us. So we either get a race to the bottom in currency valuation (Armageddon) or we get rising tariffs and there is nothing to buy because we don’t make crap (Armageddon).

[jstoesz]

I think this is a precursor to a trade/currency war. Tariff is not such a bad word in lots of countries, and money printing is easier for China/india/brazil then it is for us. So we either get a race to the bottom in currency valuation (Armageddon) or we get rising tariffs and there is nothing to buy because we don’t make crap (Armageddon).

[jstoesz]

[quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.

[jstoesz]

[quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.

[jstoesz]

[quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.

[jstoesz]

[quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.

[jstoesz]

[quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.

[jstoesz]

The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.

[jstoesz]

The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.

[jstoesz]

The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.

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