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I think it’s impossible for Hillary to pick Bloomberg. The $30+ billionaire who has done tons more than Hillary isn’t going to want to play second fiddle to anyone.
He has been major of NY himself and thought about running his own campaign if it was left to Bernie and Trump…
It’s sad (to me) to see Hillary get the nod, I’d rather see Kasich win the republican nod and beat Hillary…
I think if they pulled that at the convention, all the Trump voters will probably just stay home, but who knows.
Good thing whoever wins, my life will probably change very little (even Trump) I’d assume so at the end of the day, all this politico talk is fun, but most likely will have nearly no impact on our lives (especially Hillary…continued special interest and money politics).
What I and some others have mentioned on news outlets I’ve seen is why does Hillary have this insane need to grab so much money? She doesn’t really need it as much now and it makes her look like she is continuous bought.
joecParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]
The helpers also need to change their culture in order to help. They will help themselves in the process, because one day they will be the ones needing help.I agree with you on the value for education and adapting to changes.
When I hear “people are tired of it” I think Trump supporters.
Lots of working-class, lower-middle to middle class White people now want to go back to the past. It’s a self-defeating wish because of the forces of globalization and the move to a digital economy. In this new economy, more objective measures of qualifications (grades, university degrees, etc.. ) will be needed to move up the social ladder.
The post WWII period of social mobility was an anomaly that will not repeat itself.
When you see Sarah and Todd Palin as role models for millions of people who disdain education, you wonder what those people are teaching their kids. That’s part of fucked up culture.[/quote]
I think many studies have shown that if you aren’t born into a decent life, your chances of getting ahead are pretty slim now…This is why there is a somber mood for a lot of folks if they lack the education or good job already. Job security is pretty non-existent and many white collar jobs are getting outsourced now as well (law, finance, tech been for a while)…
You already have too many college grads, let alone grads with useless degrees. People in the “better” areas from wealthier families also start off enrichment classes at age 4 and by the time they go off to college, they are so far ahead of the poor, lower income person that I think for nearly 90% of the people in that category, the chance of you improving or getting the better jobs is pretty low.
I saw a study about Howard grads (mostly black college) computer grads interning at Facebook or Google and nearly all of them aren’t hired. This is, of course due to those Howard grads starting to code at 16 or so compared to the Google guy who was coding by 6 (or younger to brag)…
Just so much harder for those folks since we’re in a global economy as well and you might as well hire the physics wiz from Singapore than the not-fitting-in black kid (not that the black kids even really wanted to hang out with the typical Google guy/gal talking about various tv shows and playing ultimate Frisbee…).
College admissions is already a bit harder since nearly everyone thinks you have to go now to make a half decent living due to an over supply of labor in the world so everyone has a degree.
Also, I think I have seen studies which actually mentioned that having a solid middle class is actually not the norm. The post ww2 period was only possible due to Western Europe and pretty much every industry power being bombed to kingdom come and the US was the only country still with solid infrastructure and manufacturing in tack. Unless something drastic happens, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the gap between rich/poor widening more similar to historical times.
joecParticipant[quote=AN]Also, the article said:
[quote]The wealth gap between older and younger Asians is an anomaly, said Haskin. Wealth normally functions the other way around—the older population have higher levels of wealth, for various reasons. Among Asians, however, it is the younger population who are wealthier.[/quote]
It’s only an anomaly if you compare it to other culture. It’s not an anomaly if you understand the Asian culture. It would be an anomaly the other way around. I know many first gen immigrants who came here w/ nothing, worked hard, save as much as they could, and pay for their kids college tuition. So, today, their kids are wealthier than they are, because instead of thinking about “me” and save for “me” first, they plow every dollar they have to ensure their kids will be successful. That’s the Asian culture. Part of the Asian culture is also, once the kids are successful, they will repay their parents and help take care of them when they’re old because they know that they wouldn’t be where they are today if their parents didn’t sacrifice everything for them.[/quote]
This is also why for some Asian folks, it’s also hard to understand some of the white upbringing and culture…since they don’t see it and don’t know how hard it is for some folks having to go it alone.
I know my white roommate in college had to pay all his own way, he pretty much was kicked out at 18 and had to go it alone with tuition, spending money, jobs, housing, etc…hard to feel grateful and helpful to others and they will have a much harder time to succeed when the Asian guy has family help (pretty much EVERYONE I knew) in the bay area had family help to buy their home…Not having to pay off loans, housing downpayment, get free rental properties (have some in the family with this), makes all the financial aspects of life far easier.
Asians succeed because their whole family network/structure and support system is far better than most other people.
You have Asians who may live a few families in a house so they can all save money and eventually all buy a place. Siblings covering each other and watching each other’s kids, etc…
A lot of the lower income folks come from broken homes with no dad or mom, drugs, tons of kids…etc…it’s their own fault and
As for the wall and Trump, I don’t think I support it at all since I don’t think it’ll work or will be paid for by Mexico. I’m more for cutting benefits to illegals and cutting all benefits since it shouldn’t be everyone elses responsibility to pay for them if a lot of people here aren’t even doing that well.
I should also read up on how every other country with top rated healthcare does it since I don’t think this whole Trump and insurance competing will work. If you wanted to be profitable, most insurance companies will just dump all women and pregnant folks.
I assume the healthcare industry will be destroyed
actually in it’s current form if we do what other countries do since a lot of research is probably done in the US and other countries benefit for it (and have laws to prevent gouging) which we don’t have here. I would like to see some go under personally (Blue Cross/Shield)…joecParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
flyer, have you seen any of the recent videos put out by the MSM showing the sheer desolation of “rust belt cities” such as in OH and MI and interviewing its (now chronically-unemployed) inhabitants?
The “desperation” you describe isn’t about race. It’s about families which have, for generations, been able to support themselves with union factory jobs with full benefits and now find themselves permanently out of work and their long-owned homes worth nearly nothing, due to lack of living-wage jobs in the area. They can’t even sell their homes and transfer out of the region for a better job and likely can’t find good renters because there aren’t any living-wage jobs in the region. I can see why these people feel that they’re “stuck” and frustrated with NAFTA, etc.
You see, flyer, you and I ALREADY GOT OURS and GOT OUT of the “rat race” with our union-negotiated pensions and benefits for life! But how would you like to be a ~40-year-old lifetime union member with 3 kids in school and told your lifetime job will be ending because the factory in which you are employed is moving its operations to MX in a few months? Um …. the “seniority” you have acquired over the years won’t do you any good in this instance.
For example, Lorrain, OH (where Trump and Sanders have set up campaign offices) has been a literal ghost town for years due to its longtime steel factories “outsourcing” of ALL their (former) living-wage jobs to China. Two more steel factories are set to close at the end of this month:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hard-hit-ohio-steel-town-trump-and-sanders-resonate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoJkjJCvgSE
Three Ford plants in this part of OH were closed about five years ago. The following (2011) video states that their factories will be renovated into other factories or warehouses in the next four years (ostensibly to create “replacement jobs”) but of course, NOTHING has been done with any of them as of today:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KIo9RhJOdWG24ATtgsnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ–?p=lorain%2C+OH+lost+auto+assembly+jobs&vid=db08d84b17242d089949be9cca682ae4&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.Va0ecc0235132566772e7d8e0cb0998fd%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D170%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.foxnews.com%2Fv%2F1211307075001%2Fford-closing-assembly-plant-in-ohio%2F&tit=Ford+Closing+Assembly+Plant+in+Ohio&c=0&h=170&w=300&l=111&sigr=12dt4v4hi&sigt=113lqaspd&sigi=131kce5fb&age=1318230000&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhs-mozilla-002&hsimp=yhs-002&hspart=mozilla&tt=b
I think more than a few Piggs currently sitting in their Sorrento Valley (SD) offices (with carefully-placed SD indigenous plants out their professionally-landscaped office windows situated on a modern “company campus” with a running track/obstacle course and cafeteria with CA farm-fresh “organic” food for their employees’ lunchtime enjoyment) are a little happier with their lives and thus, much happier with the “status quo” than they would be if they were longtime “rust-belt dwellers” who now have genuinely hardscrabble lives.
Our “representative Pigg group” is undoubtedly ALSO happier than they would be than if they were longtime (LEGAL-resident) Otay Mesa (SD) dwellers (with multiple family members as neighbors) who now have the US Homeland Security Dept’s bright lights on high-beam shining through their windows all night while desperate illegal immigrants are constantly attempting to jump their backyard fences to temporarily “hide” in their backyards from the border patrol’s jeeps and helicopters.
NONE of this “discontent” with the status quo today is about race, people. It’s primarily about our porous borders, lack of employment opportunities and often being “forced” into “welfare programs” due to having no other choice (college degree or not). And those “welfare programs” INCLUDE Obamacare and all the rules and regs that go along with accepting a “subsidy” to help pay its exorbitant premiums, however “paltry” that subsidy may be.
We all need to be able to put ourselves into other Americans’ shoes (who don’t live and work in a SD, CA area of $700K+ homes) to understand exactly what is going on here with Election ’16. Having regularly traveled by road to 17+ states (some dozens of times) all of my life, I’ve seen things that a good portion of the rest of you likely never come into contact with and can’t possibly envision in your wildest dreams. Remaining in your bubbles whilst taking personally all this “campaign rhetoric” and believing it is all about YOU (are you listening, flu?) and stating that the pure “campaign rhetoric” we’re hearing is an intentional overt put-down of all races except “white” is skirting the real issues.
What US-citizen parents of minor kids on this forum SHOULD be worried about, IMO, is IF there will be any slots left for their UC/CSU-bound kid when the time comes after each campus admits their “fair share” of students with a CA HS diploma who are suspected NOT to be US citizens. This is so because the law forbids the admission boards to ask each applicant’s citizenship on their applications! And you parents should be concerned as to whether that “Dream Act” student will be eligible for a Pell grant as well to comfortably get them thru all four years. The “Dream Act” applicant may have only spent 3-4 years in attendance at a CA public HS (the rest of their schooling was in MX) in order to produce the records necessary to “vet” their UC/CSU applications. Practically speaking, just because a college applicant proves they earned a CA public HS diploma with 3 or more years in attendance in no way proves they ever resided in the US to do so! They could have easily simply crossed the border every morning to attend a US school by using a friend or relative’s US address to prove a US residence for “enrollment purposes.” This happens every . single . school day in SD County with the respective District Administrators turning the other cheek with a “wink and a nod” whilst their area school parking lots are lined up with hundreds of motorists at each school site sporting Baja, CA license plates dropping off and picking up students. This has been going on for decades. In area HS’s, these “foreign-plated” vehicles overtly fill up the HS parking lots in broad daylight cuz the MX students (residing in MX? YES!) can drive themselves to school every morning with their newly-issued CA Driver Licenses, no less :=0
I think a lot of people are getting upset for the wrong reasons by the tactics employed by Election 2016 candidates. Especially SoCal residents.
I don’t see most of the “campaign promises” made by any candidate in Election ’16 as “empty.” I believe that a lot of them are actually doable given the “right” cabinet members placed in the “right” posts and the “right” mix in Congress.
And all of the above conditions don’t have to be present all at once to be successful in delivering ONE campaign promise.
And for the record, I am still registered as an “Independent.”[/quote]
Wow, hell must be freezing over as I think I actually agree with bg for once…
At the end of the day, it’s about jobs and people working and making a decent’s day pay and raising a family. That’s really not possible now and as most studies have concluded, apparently it’s actually not possible to get ahead anymore for most people even with hard work.
All that said, as someone who used to work in the tech industry making good money (100-200k) way back, I do agree that a lot of well to do people are pretty tone deaf on this topic. As someone who has also taken less paying jobs and seeing how other people work with less job security and dull work, the tech life and SV life (which tons of people are complaining about now like VCs on new people up there), that place is pretty crazy I think.
I think until it all implodes, nothing with change much though.
This will possibly lead to major problems maybe in 20-30 years when a lot of males are unemployed (like some places in Europe now) and it could get messy.
Also, what some people don’t like currently is there are plenty of abuses in tech from all the large firms with taxes (8k in taxes from Facebook in all of the UK?) At the end of the day, all the wage slaves and “regular” small businesses (me) have to cover all that. There are so many legal ways not just in tech, but with gov subsidies, energy credits/kick backs/laws, you name it.
I actually don’t agree with Sanders on the whole immigration thing. I probably support NO benefits to make it so people actually don’t want to come here illegally (and forcing everyone else to pay).
At this point, I only want someone who will try to dismantle and hopefully take all the pork and special backside door deals, etc…out and simplify things.
Healthcare for all, make it like every other country (yes, I am ok with NOT treating certain things (and we just die)) and save millions for every company out there and one less headache for companies to deal with. It will cost a lot of money, but companies don’t have to pay for it anymore (directly).
joecParticipant[quote=livinincali]
I don’t think Obama hates America. I think he’d like to see America become more socialist federally controlled country. He might hate certain aspects of our constitution, the 2nd amendment comes to mind. He might like to see the 1st and 4th more limited. That’s probably where the Obama hates American rhetoric is coming from.He hasn’t been all that effective at bringing the country together. It’s much more divided now than it was when he was elected. I think America is just sick and tired of the bought and paid for politician. He epitomizes that person and if there were a republican in the presidents role it would probably be similar rhetoric from the Democrats. I.e. Romney hates America because he sells it out to business special interests.
The political rhetoric always gets bad before an election. We got people here comparing Trump to Hilter and he’s a populist racist that’s going to set the country back 50 years in civil rights. I don’t know that Trump’s ever done anything in business that supports that view and talking negatively about illegal immigration doesn’t seem to justify that fear. He doesn’t have a track record in political office so it’s a bit of an unknown. Certainly some of his supporters would like to see that happen, but I don’t think most of them do.
I think the 2 most important issues for this country are fixing the costs associated with health care/education and re-establishing the rule of law (No more we’re above the law for businesses and special interests). Both of those involve standing up to the special interests and their large campaign contributions. I think Sanders and Trump would be the most effective at doing that. I don’t have a lot of faith in Clinton or the establishment republicans doing that.[/quote]
I agree with the above post…I think from what I have read/seen, Obama has used racial comments in general to make race as a problem and a thing to divide the country. That has been something I have read/heard from even non-right wing nuts. This probably feeds into them then taking that and saying he hates America…
Also, I think every economic study has shown that the black people haven’t improved a wee bit anything since he was elected…Probably just another politician…or politics as usual.
flu, you mistake my Trump comments as someone who supports him. My disagreement is that I don’t think he’s insane and he knows that there is a huge segment of the party very disenfranchised with the whole thing and he knows how to tap that.
He could be racist, problem is maybe unlike you, I also think I’m probably racist too, at least to a certain degree. Problem is I actually think everyone is racist to a point. Some may not make negative comments or what not in public, but I even have family members that married someone else get tons of negative comments (black/muslim, white spouse’s parents making disparaging Asian remarks, etc…).
I suppose this is why Japan doesn’t have immigration. It’s one benefit (and problem) they don’t have to deal with…
As for Trump being president and starting to kill off or persecute everyone who isn’t white, even if he wanted to do that, I don’t think that will happen…maybe you do or at least put limits on anyone who isn’t white. If that were to occur, maybe we’d end up with another Civil war at that point.
I do agree with the above post that a lot of the Trump supporters are just out to look for anyone who isn’t establishment (special interest). Heck, Taylor Swift can run and she’d probably win (at least she’s pleasing to look at). People simply don’t care and maybe they are naïve to think that, with him thumb on nukes, but that’s where things are at. The people in political power are viewed very negatively (and they do have hand son nukes) and a lot of the Trump fans just want them all out.
I do believe that if there was say, a real world war with China, even if you aren’t from China, any Chinese or any Asian person is going to be in a world of hurt, even citizens or people born here. It’s just the nature of the situation and at the end of the day, if the shit is bad enough, I wouldn’t be surprised to see internment camps again.
It is a sad state in America (and tons of other countries) dealing with this now…
See all the corruption out in Brazil? Olympics there are dead (no one is going) with Zika and they are trying to impeach their current leader…
Maybe America isn’t that bad after all.
joecParticipantGold has been the best performing asset class in 2016 already…the trade has already gone there.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/gold-price/61682/gold-price-could-be-set-to-break-1300
joecParticipantTrump’s a bully and mostly (like nearly ALL the candidates) looking out for himself, but calling him insane is a bit off I feel.
If he was truly insane, he would have squandered all his born wealth and would be a total failure with no marriages and living in a ditch or dead.
From all data, I think it’s fair to say he was born a millionaire and made himself into a billionaire (how much, still over $1 bil)…more than what most people would amount to.
He also raised 3 kids which nearly all the press and people who know them state are decent and upstanding kids…especially Ivanka.
I think in the end, Trump is extremely calculating and has a good sense of what the mood/feel/whatever you want to call it is for people and uses it to make sure he’s getting his share/cut…and uses it to succeed.
It’s true he’s no conservative, but maybe that’s a good thing since there’s been ads against him for coming out and supporting universal health care
(my main concern in general) and other things “conservative” far right republicans would never support.What I don’t get is why LEGAL immigrants want to support ILLEGAL immigrants who are probably affecting their financial and job prospects far more. Having more workers compete with you if you are legal doesn’t help you and I’d assume legal immigrants (Mexican, Asian, whoever) should be against all the freebees you see bantered about. Maybe it’s your family, but legal immigrants can bring them in legally as well…I don’t get this point.
On Clinton, the superdelegates can flip and who knows, maybe an indictment would force her to get out since no one really wants to support someone who’d actually lose to Trump and getting charged with a felony of leaking trade secrets or mishandling trade secrets won’t help and her support would crumble I think.
I don’t know where I read it and maybe it’s all fake, but I saw somewhere that Obama wants to be UN Secretary after office (as does Bill Clinton) and he’d need Hillary not be president for that to happen.
Maybe all conservative conspiracy theories…
joecParticipant[quote=poorgradstudent]I have a feeling the March 15th primaries will end Bernie’s campaign. Although the polls were badly wrong in Michigan, March 15th has a bunch of big states Hillary should carry by decent margins. Even if there’s one surprise (Ohio?) she’s likely to build a pledged delegate lead big enough the narrative will more or less call her the winner.
Still, after that it’s a sparse calendar with a month of mostly Western states that Bernie should do OK in. I could see him hanging on until New York in mid-April where Hillary will look to throw the Knock-out punch.[/quote]
I disagree with this completely. Are you a Hillary supporter? Campaigns primarily stop when they run out of money. Bernie, after winning Michigan did a fund raising event in 10 seconds in a hastily called press conference and just told people to donate to the campaign. He asked people to donate a few bucks and in a week, he has 10-20 million just like that. These are small (< $30) donations. http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-just-had-his-best-fundraising-month-ever/
I couldn't find funding after Michigan, but expect a solid fundraising after that win.
I even saw an article where Clinton has a higher chance of running out of money since she actually has to go to some fancy dinner with a few donors paying lots of cash. There are smaller crowds with much less energy or passion at her events when 5-10k (HUUUUUGE) crowds show up for Bernie. A part of this is because a lot of people actually don't even like her that much or want her, but are stuck with her.
LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-na-clinton-money-20160218-story.htmlBernie will take this as far as the convention if the funding is there which I think will be.
Also, the electoral map is MUCH MUCH more favorable after March 15th to Bernie (the african American south is sorta done) so he has even more reasons to stay.
Also, if Clinton runs into issues or gets indicted, her support and electability and superdelegates may change their vote since she may also have a chance to lose the election.
Trump also toned down his rhetoric in the last debate which will make him a tougher opponent if he comes off as saying he said what he did to win the nomination. You even have Carson endorsing him now. For all the idiocy that is Trump (I'm not a supporter), he is still a pretty smart business man and generally a success taking advantage of every advantage so Hillary and Bill, especially will have trouble dealing with him IMO.
Also, every poll I have seen has Sanders topping every Republican challenger. Clinton had some polls where should would actually lose. On the ones she might win, she also wins by a smaller margin than Bernie against any Republican.
In short, Hillary is the candidate the establishment dems are "stuck" with. The dems will always vote for dems so there will always be support and people will fall in line (that's that 70% Hillary support), but Hillary 'flip-flopping' Clinton is a pretty weak candidate that the majority of people find distrustful and in the pocket of the wealthy elite.
Full disclosure, yes, I would like Hillary to lose...badly...
joecParticipantThe reason for Trump’s support has a lot to do with the fact, I feel that a lot of ‘white’ americans actually don’t like any immigrants…
We have met some of these people and there is a reason that a lot of people has LEFT California for places like Colorado or other states with less immigrants.
It’s just not the America they like to live in or be a part of.
As an immigrant, I’d honestly say that I don’t care for much immigrants either…either legal or illegal…even though we were the legal kind many years ago.
It’s great for corporations to have cheaper labor and all that, but if you a regular wage slave doing any job (even higher skilled tech work), having a ton more people wanting to do that job or ANY job isn’t going to help your situation. Wages have and will go down and has already for a lot of tech work…or has already been outsourced outside the country.
You have people here who feel that you just need to keep up and all that, and that’s true to a point, but most work can be taught/learned I feel (in tech) and at the end of the day, no matter the skill, if tens of thousands of people do the same work as you, it’ll affect your job security and pay…simple as that (supply/demand).
Also, this is critical, as you get older, good luck keeping up with kids and a spouse…
In my 20s, I worked non-stop keeping/up getting ahead in tech, but after a bit, your body and simple age discrimination and if you have family (see this already from people I hear from), you will lose out since you can’t work as much as the younger and the immigrant.
joecParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=poorgradstudent]
I think Rubio’s biggest issue is the Big Money donors aren’t too impressed with him. I mean, if I was a completely loaded Republican, at this point I’d be tempted to just let Trump or Cruz win the nomination and sink my cash into competitive Senate races. Or maybe even cross my fingers for a brokered convention, where backroom influence goes a long ways.[/quote]Rubio’s problem is that he has no campaign. He never built one. He’s lazy. He’s always been lazy. He gives a speech. If people like it, he gives it over and over again. Even if he had a campaign, he has nothing to run on. He’s a good looking, young, Hispanic republican. Full stop. That’s what he has. He would have an unlimited supply of insider money if he had anything beyond those attributes, and a campaign. He’s history. His senate seat is up next January. We may never hear from him again.
It’s likely the big republican money will go into the senate races and house races. Either Trump or Cruz will be a huge drag on down-ticket races. A Trump-Cruz ticket (or vice-versa) might cause Republicans to lose both the Senate and the House. It’s unlikely to happen. Cruz hates Trump. Everyone hates Cruz (that’s the one universal truth of this election cycle.) If the nominee comes out of a brokered convention, it’s unlikely to be either of them. My money is on Paul Ryan. He’s owed, big time. And down-ticket races will suffer even more.[/quote]
I agree completely. Rubio is done IMO. He got elected to 1 term I think and has been a lazy senator, and from all reports, the laziest never showing up and he had a singular goal of trying to reach the presidency after his Senate mid-step…(according to his campaign manager I think?)
After he loses Florida sadly, I hope and think he will be done with Politics since he hasn’t done a thing and only wanted to be POTUS 6 years ago…
Good riddance I say….
joecParticipant[quote=moneymaker]Has anyone with Verizon Wireless checked their accounts lately? I did recently and found out I have 131,000 points for doing nothing but paying my bill for a few years. Of course like air miles they are watered down so can”t actually buy much with them unless you play the game which I refuse to do.[/quote]
yeah, I probably have about 100k too…I mostly use them for in town dining where they might have a buy 1 get 1 for free or half off so if you were planning to go anyways, it’s a good deal to check first.
joecParticipantProblem on the playground is not hitting back also means you will constantly get bullied too…
Trying to figure this out with my kids at the moment.
joecParticipant[quote=flu]I’m still watching the bay area for a sign of a general tech slow down….
$846 per square foot in Santa Clara…., not even in the better areas like Palo Alto or Cupertino or even Mountain View.
So, that would be a no.[/quote]
god, that’s insane…4 times/sqft price than in my hood…
joecParticipant[quote=AN]Vast majority is not good enough. Not when they suppose to replace human driving but won’t take on the liability. If a person have an accident, then at least one of those drivers involved are at fault and their insurance goes up. Who’s at fault when the computer make mistake? This is not assisted driving, this is autonomous driving. Which means it has to take into account all situation and be able to react as well or better than a human who’s paying attention.[/quote]
I agree…Maybe Google will just pay into an insurance fund to cover any accidents…What will be funny is if people figure out how to “trick” the google auto driving car and purposely get the computer to crash into them and make tons of claims…and win…
Of course, there will be a ‘patch’ after 🙂
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