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November 15, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483055November 15, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483223
jficquette
Participant[quote=SK in CV]If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.
[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.
I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.
Argument fails.[/quote]
The only thing a communist system excels at is killing people. Sort of like Islam.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Here is a pix of how North Korea works at night.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm
November 15, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483593jficquette
Participant[quote=SK in CV]If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.
[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.
I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.
Argument fails.[/quote]
The only thing a communist system excels at is killing people. Sort of like Islam.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Here is a pix of how North Korea works at night.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm
November 15, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483675jficquette
Participant[quote=SK in CV]If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.
[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.
I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.
Argument fails.[/quote]
The only thing a communist system excels at is killing people. Sort of like Islam.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Here is a pix of how North Korea works at night.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm
November 15, 2009 at 10:33 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483901jficquette
Participant[quote=SK in CV]If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.
[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.
I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.
Argument fails.[/quote]
The only thing a communist system excels at is killing people. Sort of like Islam.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Here is a pix of how North Korea works at night.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm
November 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483060jficquette
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]
Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]
Where has libertarianism been tried?
November 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483228jficquette
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]
Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]
Where has libertarianism been tried?
November 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483598jficquette
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]
Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]
Where has libertarianism been tried?
November 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483680jficquette
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]
Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]
Where has libertarianism been tried?
November 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM in reply to: Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion” #483906jficquette
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]
Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]
Where has libertarianism been tried?
jficquette
Participant[quote=briansd1]We shall see.
Let’s think about all the money that we owe China. Why can’t both parties call it even and forget about it if it comes to a head? I’m sure something can be arranged.
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So yeah, hey Chiner, you know that $2 Trillion we owe ya? Can we just forget about it? Come on what’s the big deal? Its just paper for God’s sake. Besides what’s a couple Trillion amongst friends? Ok, ok, you can have India, Japan, Taiwan. We can even throw in California, not that you would want it but you could sell it to the Saudi’s for whatever you can get. It has to be worth something.
jficquette
Participant[quote=briansd1]We shall see.
Let’s think about all the money that we owe China. Why can’t both parties call it even and forget about it if it comes to a head? I’m sure something can be arranged.
[/quote]
So yeah, hey Chiner, you know that $2 Trillion we owe ya? Can we just forget about it? Come on what’s the big deal? Its just paper for God’s sake. Besides what’s a couple Trillion amongst friends? Ok, ok, you can have India, Japan, Taiwan. We can even throw in California, not that you would want it but you could sell it to the Saudi’s for whatever you can get. It has to be worth something.
jficquette
Participant[quote=briansd1]We shall see.
Let’s think about all the money that we owe China. Why can’t both parties call it even and forget about it if it comes to a head? I’m sure something can be arranged.
[/quote]
So yeah, hey Chiner, you know that $2 Trillion we owe ya? Can we just forget about it? Come on what’s the big deal? Its just paper for God’s sake. Besides what’s a couple Trillion amongst friends? Ok, ok, you can have India, Japan, Taiwan. We can even throw in California, not that you would want it but you could sell it to the Saudi’s for whatever you can get. It has to be worth something.
jficquette
Participant[quote=briansd1]We shall see.
Let’s think about all the money that we owe China. Why can’t both parties call it even and forget about it if it comes to a head? I’m sure something can be arranged.
[/quote]
So yeah, hey Chiner, you know that $2 Trillion we owe ya? Can we just forget about it? Come on what’s the big deal? Its just paper for God’s sake. Besides what’s a couple Trillion amongst friends? Ok, ok, you can have India, Japan, Taiwan. We can even throw in California, not that you would want it but you could sell it to the Saudi’s for whatever you can get. It has to be worth something.
jficquette
Participant[quote=briansd1]We shall see.
Let’s think about all the money that we owe China. Why can’t both parties call it even and forget about it if it comes to a head? I’m sure something can be arranged.
[/quote]
So yeah, hey Chiner, you know that $2 Trillion we owe ya? Can we just forget about it? Come on what’s the big deal? Its just paper for God’s sake. Besides what’s a couple Trillion amongst friends? Ok, ok, you can have India, Japan, Taiwan. We can even throw in California, not that you would want it but you could sell it to the Saudi’s for whatever you can get. It has to be worth something.
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