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July 20, 2009 at 9:06 AM in reply to: Does anyone know we are bombing the moon on October 9th? #434841
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ParticipantEven if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot. I am FAR more concerned about other issues on his plate.
ParticipantEven if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot. I am FAR more concerned about other issues on his plate.
ParticipantEven if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot. I am FAR more concerned about other issues on his plate.
ParticipantEven if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot. I am FAR more concerned about other issues on his plate.
ParticipantEven if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot. I am FAR more concerned about other issues on his plate.
Participant[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]
Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.
Participant[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]
Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.
Participant[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]
Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.
Participant[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]
Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.
Participant[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]
Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.
ParticipantI am concerned that leaving control over health care in the hands of profit motivated corporations is like leaving financial control of our country in the hands of profit motivated bankers.
When I was young and we had little money we were able to obtain decent treatment at the local community clinics in the area. They provided good service on an ability to pay scale, so for us that usually meant around $25 for an office visit and some tests.
In recent years many of these have had to close due to loss of funding or substantially raise their fees to the point they serve little purpose.
The cost of funding these programs would be minuscule in comparison to the Obama plan and would effectively get medical treatment to those unable to afford insurance or the high cost of private care.
One thing that has not been thought through is the simple fact that even the “rich” are getting hammered by the current economic downturn and despite tax increases, overall revenues will continue to collapse. Further demanding small business pay will definitely result in a lot of layoffs, thus creating more unemployed, more who qualify for the greatest level of aid and less tax revenue. This seems to be the unintended consequence of this plan. As this occurs, tax increases will have no choice to go where the real money is – what is left of our middle class here in the US.
ParticipantI am concerned that leaving control over health care in the hands of profit motivated corporations is like leaving financial control of our country in the hands of profit motivated bankers.
When I was young and we had little money we were able to obtain decent treatment at the local community clinics in the area. They provided good service on an ability to pay scale, so for us that usually meant around $25 for an office visit and some tests.
In recent years many of these have had to close due to loss of funding or substantially raise their fees to the point they serve little purpose.
The cost of funding these programs would be minuscule in comparison to the Obama plan and would effectively get medical treatment to those unable to afford insurance or the high cost of private care.
One thing that has not been thought through is the simple fact that even the “rich” are getting hammered by the current economic downturn and despite tax increases, overall revenues will continue to collapse. Further demanding small business pay will definitely result in a lot of layoffs, thus creating more unemployed, more who qualify for the greatest level of aid and less tax revenue. This seems to be the unintended consequence of this plan. As this occurs, tax increases will have no choice to go where the real money is – what is left of our middle class here in the US.
ParticipantI am concerned that leaving control over health care in the hands of profit motivated corporations is like leaving financial control of our country in the hands of profit motivated bankers.
When I was young and we had little money we were able to obtain decent treatment at the local community clinics in the area. They provided good service on an ability to pay scale, so for us that usually meant around $25 for an office visit and some tests.
In recent years many of these have had to close due to loss of funding or substantially raise their fees to the point they serve little purpose.
The cost of funding these programs would be minuscule in comparison to the Obama plan and would effectively get medical treatment to those unable to afford insurance or the high cost of private care.
One thing that has not been thought through is the simple fact that even the “rich” are getting hammered by the current economic downturn and despite tax increases, overall revenues will continue to collapse. Further demanding small business pay will definitely result in a lot of layoffs, thus creating more unemployed, more who qualify for the greatest level of aid and less tax revenue. This seems to be the unintended consequence of this plan. As this occurs, tax increases will have no choice to go where the real money is – what is left of our middle class here in the US.
ParticipantI am concerned that leaving control over health care in the hands of profit motivated corporations is like leaving financial control of our country in the hands of profit motivated bankers.
When I was young and we had little money we were able to obtain decent treatment at the local community clinics in the area. They provided good service on an ability to pay scale, so for us that usually meant around $25 for an office visit and some tests.
In recent years many of these have had to close due to loss of funding or substantially raise their fees to the point they serve little purpose.
The cost of funding these programs would be minuscule in comparison to the Obama plan and would effectively get medical treatment to those unable to afford insurance or the high cost of private care.
One thing that has not been thought through is the simple fact that even the “rich” are getting hammered by the current economic downturn and despite tax increases, overall revenues will continue to collapse. Further demanding small business pay will definitely result in a lot of layoffs, thus creating more unemployed, more who qualify for the greatest level of aid and less tax revenue. This seems to be the unintended consequence of this plan. As this occurs, tax increases will have no choice to go where the real money is – what is left of our middle class here in the US.
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