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  • July 20, 2009 at 7:16 AM #434781
    Arraya
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    This is a silly distraction conspiracy in a conspiracy-filled world.

    The hard right took the bait on this one and lived up to sterotypes. Hook, line and sinker. Also the more gullible of tin hat crowd bought it just because we live in a cesspole of lies that is hard to tell what is true or not.

    I still maintain this is a carefully constructed conspiracy to create a psychological effect rather than a lone nutball that hates Obama.

    Psyops (psychological operations) and Cointelpro(counter intelligence programs)

    Psychological Operations (PSYOP, PSYOPS) are techniques used by any set of groups to influence a target audience’s value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, and behavior. PSYOPS are used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator’s objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals

    COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States

    It’s still not as stupid as the green shoots conspiracy..

    July 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM #434122
    partypup
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    [quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.

    July 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM #434327
    partypup
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    [quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.

    July 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM #434643
    partypup
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    [quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.

    July 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM #434715
    partypup
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    [quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.

    July 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM #434881
    partypup
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    [quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM #434132
    just someone
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    Can you please discuss the other major candidate? Keep that loser in the news, too.

    He was was not born on US soil, and citizenship convey by law… he was definitely not a US citizen for a period of time.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM #434338
    just someone
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    Can you please discuss the other major candidate? Keep that loser in the news, too.

    He was was not born on US soil, and citizenship convey by law… he was definitely not a US citizen for a period of time.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM #434653
    just someone
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    Can you please discuss the other major candidate? Keep that loser in the news, too.

    He was was not born on US soil, and citizenship convey by law… he was definitely not a US citizen for a period of time.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM #434725
    just someone
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    Can you please discuss the other major candidate? Keep that loser in the news, too.

    He was was not born on US soil, and citizenship convey by law… he was definitely not a US citizen for a period of time.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM #434891
    just someone
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    Can you please discuss the other major candidate? Keep that loser in the news, too.

    He was was not born on US soil, and citizenship convey by law… he was definitely not a US citizen for a period of time.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM #434137
    SK in CV
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    No he’s not right. And neither are you.

    [quote=partypup][quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.[/quote]

    First, congress can’t amend the constitution. That right is afforded the states, and requires 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendment. It’s unlikely it could be done quickly.

    Second, the inquiries were taken seriously. Obama has provided a certified copy of his birth certificate (In the case of Hawaii, they issue a document called “Certificate of Live Birth”).

    This discussion should have been over a year ago.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM #434343
    SK in CV
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    No he’s not right. And neither are you.

    [quote=partypup][quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.[/quote]

    First, congress can’t amend the constitution. That right is afforded the states, and requires 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendment. It’s unlikely it could be done quickly.

    Second, the inquiries were taken seriously. Obama has provided a certified copy of his birth certificate (In the case of Hawaii, they issue a document called “Certificate of Live Birth”).

    This discussion should have been over a year ago.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM #434658
    SK in CV
    Participant

    No he’s not right. And neither are you.

    [quote=partypup][quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.[/quote]

    First, congress can’t amend the constitution. That right is afforded the states, and requires 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendment. It’s unlikely it could be done quickly.

    Second, the inquiries were taken seriously. Obama has provided a certified copy of his birth certificate (In the case of Hawaii, they issue a document called “Certificate of Live Birth”).

    This discussion should have been over a year ago.

    July 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM #434730
    SK in CV
    Participant

    No he’s not right. And neither are you.

    [quote=partypup][quote=GH]Even if Obama was determined not to be a legitimate US Citizen, which given his mother IS a US Citizen, it seems to me Congress and the Senate would rush to amend the constitution to allow his presidency to continue, so I recon this angle is moot.[/quote]

    Actually, I think you’re right. But I also believe that people deserve to know the truth about their Commander-in-Chief so that the issue is out in the open and in the future, should the issue come up again, we take the inquiries more seriously and ask the hard questions BEFORE someone is sworn into office.The quest for the truth is the enemy of any elected official.[/quote]

    First, congress can’t amend the constitution. That right is afforded the states, and requires 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendment. It’s unlikely it could be done quickly.

    Second, the inquiries were taken seriously. Obama has provided a certified copy of his birth certificate (In the case of Hawaii, they issue a document called “Certificate of Live Birth”).

    This discussion should have been over a year ago.

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