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ParticipantIf either men or women have been “success objects” in prior generations, from what I’m reading, that might not hold for future generations by virtue of pure economics.
Since such a huge percentage of young people are so far “behind the curve” financially, with regard to establishing themselves in careers, buying their own homes, etc., etc.–perhaps we’ll find that, for the majority of the population going forward, the concept of choosing someone because of what they can provide you with in life may simply disappear because that option no longer exists.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]A clean lifestyle is best, of course. But nothing to be embarrassed about getting work done. It depends what is done and how it was done.
Getting age spots and freckles removed is child’s play with laser. Reducing acne scaring is easy.
My uncle, at age 70+ got his droopy eyelids lids lifted. Made him look healthier and took away the fatigued look.
liposuction is actually highly recommended for people who can’t lose weight.
I’ve never had any work done, but I’ve been to clinics with people who have. Not a big deal. I will do it when time comes.[/quote]
Completely agree concerning all of the issues you mentioned. I was actually referring to the fact that we’ve never had any major elective reconstructive surgery, because we don’t feel we have any reason to do so–at least not at this point in time. We completely respect anyone who makes that choice, and, who knows, we may change our minds someday as well.
ParticipantGenetics and lifestyle, combined, pops into my head. I’ve known people who naturally looked great when they were younger, but did not take care of themselves as far as lifestyle–so they aged very badly.
Illness and extreme stress through job loss, as well as personal and financial issues, etc. can also contribute to the decline of a person’s physical appearance.
Although it’s very prevalent in our area of North County (and in many of the other “hot spots” mentioned) we, and most of our friends are not into “having work done,” so we try to stay on top of things through lifestyle, etc., and, so far, it’s working out well.
ParticipantI’ve read quite a few articles by psychologists who contend that social media distorts reality for many people. It seems this phenomenon has, sadly, encouraged many to believe they are “stars,” even within their own tiny universe. Many people feel insignificant, and this allows them to be “somebody,” or so the “pros” say. This analysis was not just confined to women.
My wife, who is in the film business, tells me that, whatever the storyline of a project, it must be fully grounded in hyper-escapism before she’ll greenlight
it–because that’s what the world wants to see.When you look at the highest grossing films of all time, it appears most have that element in common, so, seeing this same premise played out on a smaller scale in social media doesn’t really seem too surprising.
ParticipantKev, I think you’ve probably learned from this thread that there is no “one size fits all” when it comes to relationships, weddings, marriage, and life in general.
What one person considers “great” would be of little interest to another person, because we each define our “perfect” or “close to perfect” situation differently–and that’s a good thing.
IMO, as long as each of us is happy with the choices we make, and living the lives WE want to live–that’s all that really matters–so go for it, and enjoy!!
ParticipantNot all beautiful women are vacuous gold diggers, just as not all handsome men are shallow trophy wife collectors, and I have to agree, to each his/her own when choosing a partner for all of the right
reasons–love, happiness, achieving life goals, etc., etc.The wedding, the ring, the fabulous honeymoon, the great house, and all of the “stuff” are nice, and we’ve all been there, but, IMO, what makes the relationship lasting and beautiful is the deeper bond that’s been forged by things that money can’t buy.
ParticipantThe concept of “opposites attract” has been around forever, and it may be true for some, but my wife and I feel that coming from the same socieoeconomic backgrounds, and having the same beliefs, values, priorities, etc. has worked well for us.
As everyone, we have disagreements about various things, but, fundamentally, we’re on the same page about most things, and that has really enhanced our lives and cemented our relationship over the many years we’ve been married.
There are definitely other women out there who are probably a better match for you, Kev, and I hope you cross paths with one soon.
ParticipantWhen people really “move on” from a relationship, they really don’t care what their “ex’s” are doing–they are completely immersed in their own lives and/or relationships.
When my wife and I met, we had both been in relationships where the other parties found it difficult to “let go,” so we found that cutting off all contact with those parties worked out best–especially since we had no prior marriages.
It’s not always easy when there are mutual friends/and or family involved, but, unless their are children from a previous relationship involved–it’s really the only way to go–if, in fact, you’ve actually “moved on.”
ParticipantDon’t know if they will be able to live up to this promise. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
ParticipantAlthough we all have different opinions about how and where to live our lives, I think we can all agree that our time on earth is short–so enjoy–and congratulations!
Participant[quote=kev374][quote=spdrun]And SoCal isn’t a raging, humid, hot rathole like humidlanta. There’s a REASON why prices are higher in CA than in JawhJah.[/quote]
Actually I lived in the South about 2 decades ago and don’t recall it being a humid, hot rathole at all. The weather was fine…many places around the world have such weather, Singapore is an example and even New York City has humid weather. When I go to places like Cancún and Cozumel it’s humid there too but I manage to enjoy myself! That in itself is no reason to dismiss a place, people in CA are just too spoiled! As I said I grew up in the tropics, I can handle it.
I was in Bangkok for a while and THAT place is humid, but I absolutely loved my time in Bangkok despite the searing heat and humidity. Same thing about Miami, it was humid as hell but there were other aspects about the place that I liked which took the focus away from the weather.
I have friends who live in the South, a couple in Tennessee and one in Savannah, GA. They seem to absolutely LOVE where they are living. Californians have this delusion that everyone living outside of CA is miserable!
What is a rathole is the various neighborhoods in LA or OC you would find yourself if you have anything less than craploads of money.
Gang infested sh!tholes like Sylmar and Pacoima or Santa Ana and Garden Grove are now your only options if you don’t have gobs of cash or super jumbo financing! People here only seem to talk about the weather but what about the other aspects that contribute to quality of life? The ability to have money to spend on other comforts on life besides housing? The ability to live in a great neighborhood? The ability to send your kids to good schools?
What good is the weather going to do you if you’re spending half a million dollars, which is a princely sum for even the upper middle class, to live in a gang infested sh!thole?[/quote]
It’s true that many people are spending themselves into oblivion to live in CA, and only time will tell how that will play out for them and for their families in their later years.
With your perspective, I think you’ll probably enjoy living wherever you choose to go, and, perhaps you’ll find yourself in a position to return to CA in the future–should you care to.
Participant[quote=kev374]Texas does not interest me, I don’t like the topography of that area – it’s flat as a pancake. ATL is located near the Blue Ridge and Smokey mountains and the landscape is more varied.
As an avid motorcyclist who frequents the track I also have Road Atlanta and Barber closeby which are world-class racetracks. There is virtually nothing in TX. The morons at Circuit of the Americas in Austin have kept the fees so high that nobody does track days there!
Staying in LA/OC is not an option as the numbers simply don’t make any sense. Being financially conservative I want to limit myself to 3x my gross for a home and want to pay it off within 15 years. I also have some minimum standards for a place I buy, 2 car garage, 1500sqft for $400k. When I told my Realtor that, he thought I wanted a mansion for my budget. This is supposed to be a mansion? I think things have gone so out of whack here that there is a total disconnect between what is a basic home vs what is a mansion. And a $400k home is not cheap to me, that’s close to half million. I don’t get the mindset of people in LA/OC, they hardly have $20k in the bank but talk like taking a loan for $500-600k is no big deal. To me that is downright ridiculous and foolish but to each his own.
I could wait for prices to come down but i’ve waited long enough for that, there was a very very brief window of opportunity in 2012 but unfortunately I could not capitalize on that due to some personal circumstances. By the time I was ready the vultures..er..investors were trampling over each other to buy all the homes and before I even blinked the inventory was zero. I know for a FACT Realtors who were taking kickbacks during that time and selling “pocket listings” to their internal clientele…it was too late before I came to know the dirty tricks of the Realtor trade!! Anyway no point bitching about all that now! Let’s just say the LA/OC market is a circus that I no longer wish to participate in. For those that want to, good for you, I wish you luck. As for me time to concentrate on the future 🙂
It is akin to businesses moving out of state, at some point you have to run the numbers and make a decision about the cost vs benefit. I still think Southern California is one of the best, if not the best, places to live but that is only IF one has craploads of money OR one bought real estate during the cheap era. If you are not in one of these 2 categories then living here is infact much worse – you have to settle for substandard homes in substandard neighborhoods, no thanks![/quote]
I completely agree that if people can’t afford to live well (whatever that means to each individual) in CA, with funds to spare for retirement, etc., etc., they definitely need to look at other options before they run out of time and earning power in the marketplace.
It is my philosophy, and I’ve always told friends, I believe you should try to be financially set by at least 50, whether you continue to work or not, because life can get very unpredictable as you get older. That’s just my opinion, and, of course, may not apply to everyone.
ParticipantHave a brother who moved to Dallas many years ago for business reasons. He kept some property in San Diego, so they visit often, but, for the most part, he, his wife, and four kids have pretty much lived the TX lifestyle.
As native San Diegans, they’ve all admitted they had to get used to things they’d never dealt with here, but, overall, it’s worked out well for them. If you have a really good reason for living there, it seems to be worth it for many.
Since all of his kids now have their own homes and families in the area, my brother and SIL decided to retire in Horseshoe Bay, rather than leave the area. We’ve visited them there, and, even though we’d prefer not to live in TX, this is a pretty nice spot:
http://www.horseshoebay.com/ParticipantAgree about the salt. Cut it considerably a few years ago. Along with eating well, exercising, maintaining a decent weight, and trying to stay as “stress free” as possible, I’m now in my 50’s and take no medication of any kind–neither does my wife. My MD, says to just to keep doing what I’m doing.
No one ever knows what tomorrow may bring, but, for now, we’re both grateful for our health.
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