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ParticipantNot to minimize the horrific events, but the whom or what concerning fault regarding the state of affairs in the world can and will be argued forever.
So, imo, because life is short, the really smart play is to figure out how to live the life you want to live regardless of what’s going on out there.
ParticipantImo, as these horrific events continue to happen, more and more borders will be sealed, making immigration even more difficult for all.
Aside from the political and financial aspects, we also feel a strong connection to France. My wife received one of her degrees from the Universite
Paris-Sorbonne, and we spend time there almost every year. A very sad day in Paris.ParticipantI completely understand that there are many ways we could make higher education less expensive and more accessible, but I also think we have cultivated a society in which a growing number of people think they are simply entitled to everything they want in life (think housing) with no strings attached.
Our kids weren’t interested in tech as careers, and have done well in medicine, law and business. Yet, over 50% of the kids who finished college (at great schools with great degrees) when our kids did, still haven’t found career positions in their chosen fields.
Many have been offered jobs in places they don’t want to go, so that’s another big problem they are having. Apparently, their parents didn’t inform them that the diploma does not come with guarantees.
In general, I think you are going to see greater and greater numbers of disillusioned young people–even those with degrees–in the world when they realize the realities of life are not what they expected.
ParticipantI agree that getting involved in real estate today is much more challenging than it was when we did so 20+ years ago, and when my parents did so 20+ years before that. Those who have purchased and held property for many years (and there are many) should be fine–especially in desirable markets–even if we have another downturn.
ParticipantMultigenerational households are definitely becoming the norm again–as they were many years ago–especially in places like CA. Although we love our kids and have plenty of room, we realized a housing crunch might be on the horizon quite a few years ago, so we tried to plan ahead, so they would have places of their own when the time came.
We all like being together, but, for many reasons, I still think it’s great for everyone when kids have their own space for themselves and their own families whenever possible.
To each his or her own, but, imo, it’s all part of growing up, and becoming your own person. In fact, we’ve noticed that since our kids now live elsewhere, the time we do spend together is even more enjoyable.
ParticipantA few extended family members who are in education at the college level–in teaching and admin–have mentioned they would have never considered getting involved at any lower level of education because of the constant “babysitting,” to use their words, of students and parents.
Personally, we had only one issue with a teacher over the years with our three grown children. Most of them them were fantastic people with great work ethics, and our kids had great experiences with just about all of them. My daughter, who is now an MD, credits her interest in science to one of her early teachers.
ParticipantAgree the ticker is a nice touch, but of limited value. Since becoming so involved in real estate and film investment years ago, we’ve been in and out of the stock market. Have had a few losers over the years, but the tech stocks we’ve kept, along with some vintage stocks like KO, JNJ, TGT, JCI, etc. have made the game worthwhile.
ParticipantImo, places like CA will continue to be very expensive for many reasons, so people will simply have to decide if they can afford to live here or not.
In the age of “entitlement” it’s interesting that some people feel that things like particular jobs or housing, or–you name it–should be theirs for the asking.
I’ve seen this happen with friends–especially in my kids age group. In the
end–after college, many have had to leave for job opportunities/financial reasons–in the hope that they might get back someday.It was that, or sit in their parents home waiting for the “perfect job” to come their way, and waste those very expensive degrees.
ParticipantIt’s true that much of who we are is baked into the cake genetically, but I still believe we all have a great deal of power to change our destinies if we choose to. We’ve known many people (male and female) who have defied the odds to excel at their chosen goals, so it can be done.
It’s great to have a discussion like this about what’s right and wrong in the world when it comes to opportunities in life (or lack thereof) especially when it comes to our kids, etc.
Attempting to alter inequalities in life is a noble pursuit, but, since life is short for all of us, imo, it might be best to also concentrate efforts on giving our kids the best tools possible (whatever that means to each person) to succeed–so they are prepared–regardless of what they face out in the world. At least, that is what we tried to do with our now grown children.
ParticipantHere are some excerpts from an article I found interesting regarding differing opinions. . .
“We all have our own set of rules that we wish to play by. The smartest of us realize this earlier on and instead of continuing to try and force our reality on the rest of humanity, we learn to adapt. We learn to take our reality and manipulate it so it can function efficiently within the rules already outlined by both the universe and the human race.
Life doesn’t need to be the struggle we make it out to be. Of course, we sometimes find ourselves in situations where the only way to interpret them is as struggles.
I can write about how life would be so much more pleasant if we would all just get along. Utopia is a beautiful place, one that fairytales are made of. Unfortunately, that’s the only place a utopia will ever exist — in a fantasy.
You can’t have perfection when the individuals, the parts and the pieces are flawed. And human beings will forever be flawed; it’s part of our nature. The people of the world will always be at war with each other in one way or another. You can hope to change the world, but this is one thing you’ll never change.
You’ll meet people who won’t like you, who will hate you, who will try to hurt you. Whether or not they hurt you, however, is entirely up to you. When you really think about it, there’s no reason to feel hurt by others. Why? Because your life decisions should not be controlled by what others think.
You can respect a person and at the same time not care about all the negative words he or she throws your way.
You don’t want to ignore other people, even when they are hateful toward you. It’s always best to listen, to hear their perspective. Whether or not you believe their words have any truth to them is a different story.
This way you get to understand their realities, the way they see the world, the way they see you. It can give you great insight as to how they interpret things and what they value.
Gather all this information and you’ll begin to understand the rules everyone else is trying to play by. Then, instead of playing by their rules, you tweak yours in order to work most seamlessly and efficiently between their realities.
Living a happy life is the result of a delicate combination of going with the flow and swimming against the current. You can’t just do one or the other because you won’t survive; you’ll either get washed away with the rest of the floaters, or you’ll tire out and drown.
Keep this one thing in mind because it could literally change your life: Remember. The best way to win in life is by living the life of YOUR dreams.”
ParticipantCorrections are always possible, and, being a native Californian, I have seen many. With family all over the state, including the Bay Area, we have all been watching this show for years.
As flu said, most of us who purchased property here long ago are OK with whatever fluctuations occur, but I can completely understand how anyone(including young people who haven’t been able to buy homes here–even though they were raised here) would be hoping for one, especially in desirable areas, but I seriously doubt that it will be great enough to turn the tide enough for them to do so.
It’s great to see all of the money being made in the tech industry–especially in the Bay Area.
Several of the kids in our extended family have taken that path–but I always remind them that money can’t buy time–and that life is short–so enjoy.ParticipantAs it pertains to the OP. Having read that over 50% of college grads today are not are not able to get the careers/jobs they want, it’s clear that parents should definitely be concerned about the elements that will affect their children’s chances at success in life. Threads like this might help shed some light on that topic.
ParticipantI think the bottom line is that everyone wants their kids to have the best lives possible, and each kid will have different issues that need to be worked out in order for them to get to that point.
When we were raising our three kids, we didn’t have the issue currently being discussed, but we had others that could have derailed them, had we not dealt with them along the way.
We, and our friends who were raising kids at the same time, learned that you won’t really know if you did the right thing or not until you see how your kids function out in the world later in life, but all you can do is try. The good news is a lot of them turn out to be pretty great.
ParticipantNo question there, Blogstar.
As far as the meaning of my post. After reading it again, I can see how it does sound abstract, even OT, but this discussion reminded me of some experiences we’ve had concerning people with attitudes, as have been mentioned in this thread.
I was actually thinking of how we have had friends over the years, some with very “in your face” attitudes concerning their elevated financial status when, in fact, in the end, that proved not to be the case.
These families carried on the charade as long as they could, until they found themselves with no way out, and there were no happy endings. In fact, some were tragic.
Since then, I’ve theorized that if a mechanism, such as the transparency concept had been in place, perhaps they would not have been tempted to fabricate their wealth to such a ridiculous level. (I know this is a stretch, but you never know–it might have helped.)
In these cases false “attitudes” simply kept these people from facing the truth about their circumstances, until it was too late to recover.
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