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ParticipantNoting various generalizations being made concerning how Democratic voters are so much more prosperous than Republican voters.
Per the article below–it doesn’t look like that may be the case, but, perhaps subsidizing one’s way to prosperity will become the new norm for success going forward. After all, that’s so much easier than actually earning it. It will be interesting to see how long that works out in the real world.
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ParticipantI realize not everyone shares my opinions, as I do not share theirs, but I do think it’s very interesting to read what others think.
BG, we haven’t decided if we’ll vote in this election. If we don’t, it would be the first time in our lives, but we have serious concerns about the presumptive nominees on many levels, so we’ll see if anything changes between now and November. In our opinion, the positive things either candidate offers is far outweighed by the negative, so we’re not apathetic, just cautious.
That said, with regard to your other questions–we don’t believe in age discrimination–and are shocked to see that happening even to people in their 40’s–would I like to see changes legislated in that regard–absolutely–but until a more noticeable majority of younger people find themselves out of a job as they age–and the trends reveal they will–with the magic number appearing to be somewhere around 50 or so–I doubt if most politicians will be compelled to act on this issue.
We also don’t believe anyone is entitled to anything–including the home of their dreams–but if people want to go for it at all costs, including possibly jeopardizing their financial future–they have the right to do so–and I don’t know enough about the ACA to make any judgment calls on that.
Regarding other questions–Yes, we do understand what it’s like to raise a family in CA. My wife and I have raised three children who have all finished college and have great careers and homes.
As far as financial success or failure in life, I really think one major reason people (especially in CA) find themselves in difficult financial positions later in life is that they may have failed to admit they lived beyond their means most of their lives–because they chose to.
Admitting one can’t afford a particular lifestyle along the way may be the lesser of the evils in the long run. That, or don’t complain if you find yourself with zero options in the final lap of life.
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ParticipantRegardless of prior political achievements by either party, I think most voters just want to know if they and their children will be able to afford to live out the rest of their lives in a comfortable way–will they be able to afford their homes?–can they afford healthcare?–will they be able to retire? etc., etc., and it’s not looking good.
Although a small percentage of Americans at the top are acquiring more wealth, stats reveal that more and more people are drifting downward financially and losing ground–not just those in the middle class–especially as more and more of the population approaches their 50’s and loses their earning power for whatever reasons–so, imo, watching how those stats change for better or worse in the coming years will clearly tell us everything we need to know about the true power of either party. Because, if you can’t change what matters
most–what’s the point?flyer
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ParticipantPer the article:
“We propose that those with limited knowledge in a domain suffer from a dual burden: Not only do they reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it.”
Since the wealth gap is such an important issue in the current political arena, and affects such a huge percentage of the population, perhaps we could, by extension, take this logic a step further to help us understand if the same incompetence related to opinions plays a role in financial incompetence.
Per:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/17/wealth-gap-upper-middle-income/
Now that would be interesting.
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ParticipantI was focused and speaking from a financial/economic perspective–since that seems to be the emphasis of the empty rhetoric we are enduring from both sides–and the way candidates are reeling in desperate voters. Although my statement was clear in my mind, I can understand how it may have seemed a broad generalization with unintended inferences.
My Dad was a Naval Admiral as well as a real estate investor/developer (that’s how our entire family got into the business early in life–aviation came after college for me) among other things, so, yes, coming from a military family, I understand and appreciate your point.
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ParticipantWe all have different ideas about what constitutes great political decisions/achievements historically, and, although I don’t want to argue those points, suffice it to say that, a thinking person realizes there have been pros and cons to each and every one of them. Then, of course, some would say the pros outweigh the cons, but, that again, would also be a matter of opinion.
That said, even though neither I, my family, anyone we know, nor, I’m guessing, most Piggs, will be noticeably affected by whomever is elected President (until now, we’ve always voted for the candidate we felt represented the lesser of the evils) and really never have been, it is still difficult to watch the diabolical manipulation of voters being exhibited by the candidates on both sides. (Frankly, they all look and sound insane to me every time they speak.)
Politicians know there are more desperate voters due to uncertainty about the future (even some among the top 20% for various reasons) than ever before in history, and they have struck political gold by exploiting and playing upon the various fears of their individual base. Great for them–sad for voters–who actually believe their promises will change their lives.
However it all turns out, it will be fun, and very interesting to fact check the, for lack of a better word–winner–when their reign begins.
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ParticipantEdit:
Ideology and history are interesting discussions to pursue with regard to politics, but the reality of life is that many Americans are one paycheck away from the street, per the article below, and other stats reveal that 70-80% of Americans will never be able to retire.http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-are-one-paycheck-away-from-the-street-2016-01-06
So, yes, it will be interesting to see if whomever is elected can deliver, or if the desperate masses have simply been manipulated by desperate politicians in exchange for votes. I just can’t imagine which one it will prove to be.
Fortunately, but, most likely, sadly, the stats will, as always, provide solid proof of how well the campaign promises pan out for most Americans over the next four years or so. Tick tock.
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ParticipantThe politics of this election are really sad to watch, with so many voters desperately seeking a candidate whom they believe can actually save their lives.
I think they forget (or maybe don’t know) that we have three branches of government, and by virtue of that fact, many of the promises made will simply disappear like vapor when subjected to the legislative process.
I wouldn’t bet my future or my family’s future on any political candidate, but it will be interesting to see what any of them can actually deliver after the election.
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ParticipantIt’s true that we all hold different opinions on various topics. One person may not agree with another person’s political opinions, while yet another person might not agree with the spiritual opinions of some other person–yet each individual considers his or her opinion valid based upon their own criteria.
As an extreme example–I’ve known people with strong financial opinions, again, based upon their own criteria, who believe that anyone who isn’t a millionaire is simply an incompetent person–and, even though that may be a dumb opinion–you will never convince them of that.
Opinions are definitely a matter of opinion.
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ParticipantEveryone has different opinions about what constitutes outlandish claims and what constitutes reasonable opinions. Again, both are a matter of opinion, or there would be no opposing views.
Concerning politics, I hear things all of the time from both the right and the left that, in my opinion, are outlandish, or reasonable, and realize others may not share my opinion, just as I do not share theirs.
Just because someone tells me that my opinion is not their opinion is meaningless to me, as I imagine mine might be to them. All views are nothing more than a matter of opinion.
And yes, although we hold very strong views of life from an eternal perspective, we do believe that living this life to the max is the only way to go.
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ParticipantPersonally, regardless of the assumed age of the poster, and although I don’t always agree, I think it’s interesting to read all opinions. Judging whether someone is right or wrong is merely another personal opinion–and not necessarily a fact.
With all of our differences, the one, and possibly only, great common denominator in life is that no one lives on earth forever, but it is interesting to watch the show along the way.
May 5, 2016 at 5:21 AM in reply to: how to test the waters selling OB lots zoned for 8 total units #797306flyer
ParticipantThat sounds like a good idea. The demand for certain coastal properties just seems to be growing from what we’re seeing, so the OP should do well.
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