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[quote=FlyerInHi]Whining generally is non partisan. I don’t mind whiners who are consistent whiners. It’s ok gripe about inequalities or unfairness.

But whiners who contradict themselves all the time are losers. For example, some people bitch about not being able to afford to live in California. They bitch that immigrants are lazy and ruining the state. Well, immigrants can afford to live in California… they manage which makes them hard workers; more resilient and hardworking than the whiners.

The whiners who look for that other to demonize should called upon and made to feel like losers.[/quote]

I’ve seen many boom and bust cycles in CA, and whiners seem to vary depending on which industries are booming and which are declining at any given time in the state.

Of course those whose industries are booming at the moment are not whining right now (I’m sure those whose industries were booming in the past weren’t whining then either)–but, nothing lasts forever, so if/when certain industries go bust–as we have seen happen many times before–I think you’ll see a whole new set of whiners emerge when their services are no longer needed–just as we have with those who came before them. In an at-will employment state like CA, there are no guarantees.

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Actually, I can think of far worse things than either of the above, but the only intention of my previous post was to mention that, from the people I’ve talked to on both sides of the aisle, it’s clear there are a lot more whiners out there other than just “Trumpists.” Looking forward, perhaps, one day, we will find that whining is actually a nonpartisan activity, and that does at least give us some hope.

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I understand why people are focused on the Trump whiners, but most of the whiners we’ve encountered over the past several years actually seem to be from both sides of the aisle.

It seems this group of whiners either can’t afford to stay in CA when they retire (and these are/were educated people of all ages making big bucks) and/or their kids can’t get the jobs they want or buy a house in CA. Different problems, different issues, same whining.

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Of course the analysis discussed is possible, and taking a contrarian position is always a good way to sell a newsletter, but, imo, those who do best in real estate, as with some other investments, start at a young age, buy in a down cycle and hold. That’s what we’ve always done, and it’s worked out well.

Purchasing real estate in the current environment could be dicey, but if you can afford the risk, and really want/need to own property, you will weigh all factors and decide if you can live with your decision regardless of which way the economy swings.

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The points you raise are valid, and, hopefully, the OP will take those issues into consideration.

Living in RSF is definitely a choice that comes with a few caveats, even when you’re younger, but most people who buy here are well-prepared to deal with them in order to enjoy their preferred lifestyle.

We live in Malibu about 50% of the time now, but since we got such a great steal on the house in RSF 20+ years ago when we were in our 30’s, we really enjoyed raising our kids there, and it will always be home base, so I completely understand why the OP is exploring this option in retirement.

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Glad to try to help, but I really don’t want to give specific advice wrt the choices you are considering, since this is such a huge decision. I’ve even been reluctant to advise friends we have known for years who have moved into the area, because, in the final analysis, only the people involved really know what will best work for them.

That said, I think spending time with your realtor in all of your areas of interest, as well as touring the CC’s should give you a great deal of insight, and will help you find exactly what you’re looking for.

Edit: Just a couple of other thoughts.
You have some very valid concerns and questions, and your realtor should be able to answer each and every question you have, or be able to refer you to someone who can. If not, I would seriously consider interviewing other realtors who specialize in RSF, because a good agent will get you all of the answers you need in order to make your decision.

Also, be sure to take a look at Fairbanks Ranch.

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Understand why you would be seeking info wrt your move.

I’d rather not give personal recommendations, but I can tell you we’ve really enjoyed living in RSF for many years, and I would suggest you take a look at sdlookup.com and enter the 92067 zip code to get an idea of what’s available. LJ and DM are great too, but RSF has much more open space, privacy and golf options.

Wrt CC’s–here are some in the area you might want to check out:

rsfgolfclub.com
thebridgesrsf.com
thefarmsgolfclub.com
bayclubs.com/fairbanksranch
delmarcountryclub.com (in RSF)

Good luck!

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Continue to consider it, flu. Smart move putting real estate first, but, since you can afford both, get what you want. Life is short–enjoy it.

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svelte, we always consult an attorney wrt most of our business dealings–even if they don’t involve a partnership agreement–so, personally, I highly recommend that option, as long as you trust that person. In our case, we have family members who are lawyers, and they haven’t let us down yet.

Taking that route has saved us from some deals that might not have gone well, and has also encouraged us to invest in some projects we might have missed out on without an expert opinion.

Hope you and your son come to a conclusion that works out well for everyone concerned.

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Since you have asked about our involvement in the film business before, I can give you one last ot comment about how we’ve been able to invest in films like Avatar, etc., which may be a little more exciting than the previous discussion.

My wife (who is from a Hollywood insider family) went to college with and was engaged to a very influential person involved in making several mega-movies. Since they parted on equitable terms, we’ve kept in touch, and have been offered investment opportunities with multiple players in the film business on an ongoing basis, and, so far, so good.

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I have many airline/travel anecdotes, many real estate anecdotes, many film anecdotes, many investment anecdotes, many family anecdotes, many college anecdotes etc., etc., that I discuss with friends and family all the time, as I’m sure everyone does wrt their interests, but that’s not what this thread is about, and, since my original response was on topic to the OP, per this topic, I’d find it much more interesting to read the opinions of others wrt our children and their musical development, Strad, Steinway or other, vs. sharing anecdotes about farting in an airliner.

In fact, I can’t even believe this thread has devolved to this level. Hopefully, it will get back on topic soon.

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You’re amazing–thanks! I fly the 767/777, and have heard a rumor (can’t yet substantiate) that due to a heightened level of public concern, fart-o-meters will be added to the cockpit as soon as humanly possible.
It is because of discussions like these, that we may actually see this breakthrough in our lifetime!

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My first post did address the OP, but these great responses to it are so much more fun, so I guess I’ll have to admit, since we’ve done so well in real estate and with other investments, we haven’t had to worry about jobs for years, so I’ve only been flying about once a month for a very long time. Probably the reason I’m out of the loop when it comes to important issues like this.

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Wow. That’s a tough and exceptionally thoughtful question, and so appropriate for this thread. You’ve got me stumped, but, if I ever find the answer, I’ll be extraordinarily happy to share it with everyone.

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When our kids were growing up, we seemed to have teachers and tutors for everything imaginable, from music to sports, and everything in-between, and rarely was the transition from one teacher to the next a problem. My wife and I were raised in the same way, and were happy we had some experience with these situations when it came to our own children.

These endeavors do seem to create erudite individuals, even though, in the final analysis, they ultimately become hobbies for most.

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