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December 18, 2007 at 1:14 PM in reply to: The banks are going to inflate their way out of housing mess #120025December 18, 2007 at 1:14 PM in reply to: The banks are going to inflate their way out of housing mess #120072
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ParticipantI read a comment from someone associated with the Bank of England to the effect that the $0.5 terabuck lending was offset by other liquidity “mopped up”. Whether that means longer term securities not sold, I have no idea.
European central banks are a good deal more opaque than our Fed.
December 18, 2007 at 1:14 PM in reply to: The banks are going to inflate their way out of housing mess #120091Fearful
ParticipantI read a comment from someone associated with the Bank of England to the effect that the $0.5 terabuck lending was offset by other liquidity “mopped up”. Whether that means longer term securities not sold, I have no idea.
European central banks are a good deal more opaque than our Fed.
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ParticipantBah, another where’s-the-bottom post. Who cares anymore. Bottom ain’t coming for a long long time; you’ll have plenty of warning when things start to pick up again.
I started out thinking this was just a real estate thing, and as time has gone on, realized there are big, deep systemic issues in the U.S. economy. This is way beyond real estate. There is a rather nasty credit crisis going on, banks are writing off billions in mortgage derivatives; this thing is the size of the S&L crisis, if not a good deal bigger. The last run up had none of the systemic changes (e.g. mortgage securitization) fueling it. SIV’s are dead, haven’t you heard?
You have friends hungry for a home? That hunger has a way of dissipating when price appreciation does not appear. Appetite for second homes tends to evaporate when potential buyers reckon on price depreciation.
It will take years for people to forget about wild price appreciation. Declines beget declines just as rises begat rises. Long after will come the bottom.
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ParticipantBah, another where’s-the-bottom post. Who cares anymore. Bottom ain’t coming for a long long time; you’ll have plenty of warning when things start to pick up again.
I started out thinking this was just a real estate thing, and as time has gone on, realized there are big, deep systemic issues in the U.S. economy. This is way beyond real estate. There is a rather nasty credit crisis going on, banks are writing off billions in mortgage derivatives; this thing is the size of the S&L crisis, if not a good deal bigger. The last run up had none of the systemic changes (e.g. mortgage securitization) fueling it. SIV’s are dead, haven’t you heard?
You have friends hungry for a home? That hunger has a way of dissipating when price appreciation does not appear. Appetite for second homes tends to evaporate when potential buyers reckon on price depreciation.
It will take years for people to forget about wild price appreciation. Declines beget declines just as rises begat rises. Long after will come the bottom.
Fearful
ParticipantBah, another where’s-the-bottom post. Who cares anymore. Bottom ain’t coming for a long long time; you’ll have plenty of warning when things start to pick up again.
I started out thinking this was just a real estate thing, and as time has gone on, realized there are big, deep systemic issues in the U.S. economy. This is way beyond real estate. There is a rather nasty credit crisis going on, banks are writing off billions in mortgage derivatives; this thing is the size of the S&L crisis, if not a good deal bigger. The last run up had none of the systemic changes (e.g. mortgage securitization) fueling it. SIV’s are dead, haven’t you heard?
You have friends hungry for a home? That hunger has a way of dissipating when price appreciation does not appear. Appetite for second homes tends to evaporate when potential buyers reckon on price depreciation.
It will take years for people to forget about wild price appreciation. Declines beget declines just as rises begat rises. Long after will come the bottom.
Fearful
ParticipantBah, another where’s-the-bottom post. Who cares anymore. Bottom ain’t coming for a long long time; you’ll have plenty of warning when things start to pick up again.
I started out thinking this was just a real estate thing, and as time has gone on, realized there are big, deep systemic issues in the U.S. economy. This is way beyond real estate. There is a rather nasty credit crisis going on, banks are writing off billions in mortgage derivatives; this thing is the size of the S&L crisis, if not a good deal bigger. The last run up had none of the systemic changes (e.g. mortgage securitization) fueling it. SIV’s are dead, haven’t you heard?
You have friends hungry for a home? That hunger has a way of dissipating when price appreciation does not appear. Appetite for second homes tends to evaporate when potential buyers reckon on price depreciation.
It will take years for people to forget about wild price appreciation. Declines beget declines just as rises begat rises. Long after will come the bottom.
Fearful
ParticipantBah, another where’s-the-bottom post. Who cares anymore. Bottom ain’t coming for a long long time; you’ll have plenty of warning when things start to pick up again.
I started out thinking this was just a real estate thing, and as time has gone on, realized there are big, deep systemic issues in the U.S. economy. This is way beyond real estate. There is a rather nasty credit crisis going on, banks are writing off billions in mortgage derivatives; this thing is the size of the S&L crisis, if not a good deal bigger. The last run up had none of the systemic changes (e.g. mortgage securitization) fueling it. SIV’s are dead, haven’t you heard?
You have friends hungry for a home? That hunger has a way of dissipating when price appreciation does not appear. Appetite for second homes tends to evaporate when potential buyers reckon on price depreciation.
It will take years for people to forget about wild price appreciation. Declines beget declines just as rises begat rises. Long after will come the bottom.
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ParticipantThanks. Apparently the Fed publishes something very close to it.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/cp/
Chart “discount rate spread”. It tells the whole story. I had heard that Libor was spreading recently but had no idea the spread was rising that fast.
– Eric
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ParticipantThanks. Apparently the Fed publishes something very close to it.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/cp/
Chart “discount rate spread”. It tells the whole story. I had heard that Libor was spreading recently but had no idea the spread was rising that fast.
– Eric
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ParticipantThanks. Apparently the Fed publishes something very close to it.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/cp/
Chart “discount rate spread”. It tells the whole story. I had heard that Libor was spreading recently but had no idea the spread was rising that fast.
– Eric
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ParticipantThanks. Apparently the Fed publishes something very close to it.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/cp/
Chart “discount rate spread”. It tells the whole story. I had heard that Libor was spreading recently but had no idea the spread was rising that fast.
– Eric
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ParticipantThanks. Apparently the Fed publishes something very close to it.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/cp/
Chart “discount rate spread”. It tells the whole story. I had heard that Libor was spreading recently but had no idea the spread was rising that fast.
– Eric
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ParticipantHi Dave,
Okay, “shitty asset crisis” it is.
You know a good place to get a chart of the TED spread? Or, maybe more to the point, a chart comparing any interbank rate with its corresponding central bank rate?
Thanks in advance,
Eric
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ParticipantHi Dave,
Okay, “shitty asset crisis” it is.
You know a good place to get a chart of the TED spread? Or, maybe more to the point, a chart comparing any interbank rate with its corresponding central bank rate?
Thanks in advance,
Eric
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