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January 10, 2008 at 11:56 AM in reply to: New Hampshire District Admits Ron Paul Votes Not Counted #133653January 10, 2008 at 11:56 AM in reply to: New Hampshire District Admits Ron Paul Votes Not Counted #133691
Eugene
ParticipantWhile we are on the subject
Just heard this on NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17990685Newsletters here
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129Eugene
Participant“it looks to me like that site lists foreclosures which are for sale”
I think it lists all NOTs and their outcomes.
“From RealtyTrac: …”
IMHO:
“Pre-foreclosure” – notice of default has been filed
“Auction” – NOT has been filed, auction is scheduled
“Bank-Owned” – auction took place at some point in the past, house went to the bankEugene
Participant“it looks to me like that site lists foreclosures which are for sale”
I think it lists all NOTs and their outcomes.
“From RealtyTrac: …”
IMHO:
“Pre-foreclosure” – notice of default has been filed
“Auction” – NOT has been filed, auction is scheduled
“Bank-Owned” – auction took place at some point in the past, house went to the bankEugene
Participant“it looks to me like that site lists foreclosures which are for sale”
I think it lists all NOTs and their outcomes.
“From RealtyTrac: …”
IMHO:
“Pre-foreclosure” – notice of default has been filed
“Auction” – NOT has been filed, auction is scheduled
“Bank-Owned” – auction took place at some point in the past, house went to the bankEugene
Participant“it looks to me like that site lists foreclosures which are for sale”
I think it lists all NOTs and their outcomes.
“From RealtyTrac: …”
IMHO:
“Pre-foreclosure” – notice of default has been filed
“Auction” – NOT has been filed, auction is scheduled
“Bank-Owned” – auction took place at some point in the past, house went to the bankEugene
Participant“it looks to me like that site lists foreclosures which are for sale”
I think it lists all NOTs and their outcomes.
“From RealtyTrac: …”
IMHO:
“Pre-foreclosure” – notice of default has been filed
“Auction” – NOT has been filed, auction is scheduled
“Bank-Owned” – auction took place at some point in the past, house went to the bankEugene
ParticipantLet’s do a little research
http://www.sandiegoforeclosurereport.com/directory/search.php
Pick a date, say August 1st.
Exclude cancelled / postponed / sold to 3rd party / etc. Exclude apparent condos (4-part APNs) and multi-family buildings. Use public web sites like zillow or sdlookup.com to dig into the remaining entries.
Here’s what I get
5 sold
8 pending
10 active listings
3 unknown (not recorded as sold or active):
– 2817 Oleander Ave, Vista 92081
– 2767 Burgener Blvd, San Diego 92110
– 1171 Danober Dr, San Diego 92154Does not look like banks are holding much off the market.
Eugene
ParticipantLet’s do a little research
http://www.sandiegoforeclosurereport.com/directory/search.php
Pick a date, say August 1st.
Exclude cancelled / postponed / sold to 3rd party / etc. Exclude apparent condos (4-part APNs) and multi-family buildings. Use public web sites like zillow or sdlookup.com to dig into the remaining entries.
Here’s what I get
5 sold
8 pending
10 active listings
3 unknown (not recorded as sold or active):
– 2817 Oleander Ave, Vista 92081
– 2767 Burgener Blvd, San Diego 92110
– 1171 Danober Dr, San Diego 92154Does not look like banks are holding much off the market.
Eugene
ParticipantLet’s do a little research
http://www.sandiegoforeclosurereport.com/directory/search.php
Pick a date, say August 1st.
Exclude cancelled / postponed / sold to 3rd party / etc. Exclude apparent condos (4-part APNs) and multi-family buildings. Use public web sites like zillow or sdlookup.com to dig into the remaining entries.
Here’s what I get
5 sold
8 pending
10 active listings
3 unknown (not recorded as sold or active):
– 2817 Oleander Ave, Vista 92081
– 2767 Burgener Blvd, San Diego 92110
– 1171 Danober Dr, San Diego 92154Does not look like banks are holding much off the market.
Eugene
ParticipantLet’s do a little research
http://www.sandiegoforeclosurereport.com/directory/search.php
Pick a date, say August 1st.
Exclude cancelled / postponed / sold to 3rd party / etc. Exclude apparent condos (4-part APNs) and multi-family buildings. Use public web sites like zillow or sdlookup.com to dig into the remaining entries.
Here’s what I get
5 sold
8 pending
10 active listings
3 unknown (not recorded as sold or active):
– 2817 Oleander Ave, Vista 92081
– 2767 Burgener Blvd, San Diego 92110
– 1171 Danober Dr, San Diego 92154Does not look like banks are holding much off the market.
Eugene
ParticipantLet’s do a little research
http://www.sandiegoforeclosurereport.com/directory/search.php
Pick a date, say August 1st.
Exclude cancelled / postponed / sold to 3rd party / etc. Exclude apparent condos (4-part APNs) and multi-family buildings. Use public web sites like zillow or sdlookup.com to dig into the remaining entries.
Here’s what I get
5 sold
8 pending
10 active listings
3 unknown (not recorded as sold or active):
– 2817 Oleander Ave, Vista 92081
– 2767 Burgener Blvd, San Diego 92110
– 1171 Danober Dr, San Diego 92154Does not look like banks are holding much off the market.
Eugene
Participantwhy use Dec 2000 as your ‘base’ year, SD was already 3-4 years into the bubble at that point
I disagree, SD was barely out of the 90’s bust. Speculative bubble took off in 2003 because interest rates were falling a few years straight and it led people to believe that housing was taking off to the Moon.
What I ment was the people who the bank wants to lend to dont want to live in this area generally
One of the fallacies of the housing bubble was that you should buy the biggest house that the bank is willing to lend you money for. In a healthy market (especially in a declining market), living in a house costs you money because appreciation alone does not cover your interest payments. The bigger the house, the more it hurts your cash flow. So, you should buy the smallest house that will “work” for you. MM is not Carmel Valley but MM is not a ghetto, either. It’s like driving a Camry instead of a Lexus. Sure everyone likes Lexi but does it make most financial sense for everyone to stretch to make payments for them? or is it better to have 3-4 times the market value of the Lexus in your bank before you go and buy one?
That gives us a ratio of 5.1 years of income to cost of house (median income to median house).
Yes – ratio of median house to median income is higher than in 2000 – but all that money is borrowed and cost of borrowing is significantly lower today – so I say it’s a wash.
The same 1300 SFT home near Rancho Bernardo High school at Avinida Venusto end of street also ready to get at around 300K.
It’s a manufactured house …
Eugene
Participantwhy use Dec 2000 as your ‘base’ year, SD was already 3-4 years into the bubble at that point
I disagree, SD was barely out of the 90’s bust. Speculative bubble took off in 2003 because interest rates were falling a few years straight and it led people to believe that housing was taking off to the Moon.
What I ment was the people who the bank wants to lend to dont want to live in this area generally
One of the fallacies of the housing bubble was that you should buy the biggest house that the bank is willing to lend you money for. In a healthy market (especially in a declining market), living in a house costs you money because appreciation alone does not cover your interest payments. The bigger the house, the more it hurts your cash flow. So, you should buy the smallest house that will “work” for you. MM is not Carmel Valley but MM is not a ghetto, either. It’s like driving a Camry instead of a Lexus. Sure everyone likes Lexi but does it make most financial sense for everyone to stretch to make payments for them? or is it better to have 3-4 times the market value of the Lexus in your bank before you go and buy one?
That gives us a ratio of 5.1 years of income to cost of house (median income to median house).
Yes – ratio of median house to median income is higher than in 2000 – but all that money is borrowed and cost of borrowing is significantly lower today – so I say it’s a wash.
The same 1300 SFT home near Rancho Bernardo High school at Avinida Venusto end of street also ready to get at around 300K.
It’s a manufactured house …
Eugene
Participantwhy use Dec 2000 as your ‘base’ year, SD was already 3-4 years into the bubble at that point
I disagree, SD was barely out of the 90’s bust. Speculative bubble took off in 2003 because interest rates were falling a few years straight and it led people to believe that housing was taking off to the Moon.
What I ment was the people who the bank wants to lend to dont want to live in this area generally
One of the fallacies of the housing bubble was that you should buy the biggest house that the bank is willing to lend you money for. In a healthy market (especially in a declining market), living in a house costs you money because appreciation alone does not cover your interest payments. The bigger the house, the more it hurts your cash flow. So, you should buy the smallest house that will “work” for you. MM is not Carmel Valley but MM is not a ghetto, either. It’s like driving a Camry instead of a Lexus. Sure everyone likes Lexi but does it make most financial sense for everyone to stretch to make payments for them? or is it better to have 3-4 times the market value of the Lexus in your bank before you go and buy one?
That gives us a ratio of 5.1 years of income to cost of house (median income to median house).
Yes – ratio of median house to median income is higher than in 2000 – but all that money is borrowed and cost of borrowing is significantly lower today – so I say it’s a wash.
The same 1300 SFT home near Rancho Bernardo High school at Avinida Venusto end of street also ready to get at around 300K.
It’s a manufactured house …
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