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I’m kinda in this generation, so here’s a reference point. Born in 1975, started college in 1993. First classroom computer that I remember was in 3rd grade (83/84). It had a tapedeck and I played a game which was sort of like steering a car between two lines. Around this time, my mother was studying computer science and was programming on giant computers with keypunch cards.

A few years later (86 or so) we learned a bit of LOGO or BASIC in 5th grade. Most of my peers had personal computers such as Apple IIe by 1986-87 or so. They were basically big word processors. I first used the internet in 1991/92 or so as I discovered newsgroups thru my mother’s work sdsu.edu account.

When I entered college, ours was the first class with ethernet wired freshman dorms. Email in 1993 started with “pine.”

Believe it or not, even though I have a bachelor’s degree in a science field and MANY more years of postgraduate/professional education, I have never taken a BIT of computer programming since 1986. I can semi-successfully navigate Windows (mostly thanks to how programs download and autoinstall themselves), and that’s about it. I can definitely say that I semi-grew up in the information age but feel semi-illiterate with regard to anything outside of the internet and basic Microsoft Office products.

All of this being said, I don’t know that giving kids Ipads tackles this problem at all.

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The Poway Unified School District (PUSD) is excellent! It encompasses Poway, parts of San Diego (Rancho Penasquitos, Del Sur, Santa Luz), Rancho Bernardo, and some unincorporated areas (4S Ranch).

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[quote=bearishgurl] In addition, I think she would have returned to the Phillipines to work after she couldn’t get her visa renewed but for her minor son.[/quote]

Why didn’t she just take her son with her, back to the Philippines?

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Interesting also how Pacific Rim Elementary in Carlsbad gets a 975, which I think puts it at somewhere about #5 countywide.

My grandfather lives very near Pacific Rim in a very large community of townhouses(Poinsettia/Batiquitos area). Demographically, that townhouse area seems very middle class and there are also several apartment complexes nearby.

I’m surprised that the score is so high. Granted, there are also lots of $million+ homes especially south of Poinsettia, so I wonder if they also feed into Pacific Rim Elementary. What makes this school so successful?

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Interesting. I’m pretty happy to have just bought in South 4S Ranch with the following:

Stone Ranch Elementary 963 10 / 7

Also, Del Norte now has the top scores in PUSD.
(Admittedly, this is all splitting hairs and my kids will not be in HS for 12 more years or so…)
And yes, I realize that schools in La Jolla and Carmel Valley are a bit higher. 🙂

I’m a bit confused by the whole “statewide rank” and “similar schools rank.”
I guess the first compares you to all schools, and the second compares you to schools with a similar demographic or income.

But here’s where I get confused:

Rancho Santa Fe Elementary School District:
R. Roger Rowe Elemntary: 951 10 / 10

I am really interested that it has a 10 in similar schools with a score of 951, while my local school has a 7 in similar schools with a score of 963.

Does this imply that the demographics of 4S are in a higher category by some measurement (surely not income!) than the demographics or RSF?

Or, if it is income-based, does it mean that the kids of top income earners statewide (RSF and similar areas) actually have a lower average score than the kids of upper middle class professional types who live in 4S?

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When I was a kid, my recollection is Christians were suspicious of Jews. Now it seems like Jews are a ok with young bornagains…maybe it’s like the general trend of the youth accepting gays…[/quote]

I’d blame Dr. Laura for that one. She was the ultimate “family values” kind of Orthodox Jew. She loved stay at home moms, homeschooling, strong male/female roles… very much in line with the values of many “born again Christian” groups.

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92111 = Linda Vista zip code. Has Clairemont and Linda Vista ‘hoods.

Real-estate people always say 92111 is definitely less desireable than 92117, even for comparable homes. Stupid, I agree, but that’s the deal. So, Mt. Streets south of Balboa are “Clairemont” if you are selling and “Linda Vista” if you are buying.[/quote]

Buyer or seller, I have never heard anyone refer to any of the Mtn. Streets, or anything to the north of where Tecolote Canyon crosses Genesee just south of Mesa College, as “Linda Vista”. It just isn’t correct. It’s not a blurry line; that canyon is a very clear geographical boundary between the two neighborhoods.

On the other hand, I did have ONE pizza delivery place (on Clairemont Mesa Blvd) refuse to deliver to me because I lived in 92111 south of Balboa. They said “92117 only”. Of course I never gave them a dime of my business.

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We just moved out of Clairemont 92111 (Fox Run) back in early April. I would say that the majority of people we knew did send their kids to Holmes Elementary (the local elementary for that part of Clairemont). We knew a few who sent their kids to a charter school or private/parochial school as well.

For middle school and HS, some seemed to send their kids to either Standley MS/UC High School. There were also several kids who went to Cathedral Catholic. I know of only one girl who attended Clairemont HS (and even that was strange because we were technically in the Madison HS district. However, Clairemont is probably about the same distance or even closer).

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[quote=AN]I’ll point them to Preuss school, which have 100% low income students, yet they’re doing better than all public school in SD county.[/quote]

By what measure?

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I’d be very interested to see what the Mello Roos and HOA will end up being. I wager that the monthly payments will feel more like the payment on a high-700K house (with no MR/HOA).

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It’s technically just southwest of Rancho Bernardo, but… my husband and I moved into the south side of 4S Ranch (south of Camino del Norte) about 6 weeks ago and we LOVE it. The HOA and Mello Roos are much lower on the south side and we like how you don’t feel like you’re looking at an endless sea of houses when you’re driving in.

I haven’t met any stay at home moms yet, but I see them everyday (pushing their strollers) as I am driving into work. Our kids are age 1 and 3.

I predict that the south area has more older kids than the north end (which has newer construction, and more younger kids), but that doesn’t bother us much. There are still LOTS and LOTS of kids. and hopefully fewer young ones will mean that Stone Ranch Elementary will get less crowded as my little ones reach school age.

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We were paying around $240 every two months for an 1800 sf house with 2 adults, 2 toddlers, and an almost all usable-space 10,000+ sf lot. We had a fair amount of laundry, and I like long showers, but I think that the biggest culprit is that my husband is pretty much hose and sprinkler-happy and our lawn was always really green, even in August.

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[quote=SDCandi92]It is my understanding there is no A/C and not allowed. I live across Genessee in Fox Run, and yes, you do absolutely need A/C.[/quote]

Hmmm, strange. I just moved from Fox Run, never had AC, and only thought I might need it 1-2 times over a 5+ year period. I found the area to be quite cool and breezy most of the time.

Regarding Fox Run, there are three different sections (Bluffs, Trails, and Knolls), each with different floorplans (townhouse, duplex, or single family). The HOAs are different.

In the Knolls section (single family homes) the HOA was only $92 per month but only covered front yard maintenance and some general landscaping, mailboxes, etc. Roof replacement, etc, was at the discretion of the owner. We didn’t have community pool access but I never felt that I would need it.

I don’t know anything about Park Mesa except that I’ve driven by it many times. It looks OK.

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[quote=bearishgurl]A neighborhood just one mile from Mission Bay (SD) cannot possibly turn into a “slum.” It is likely you haven’t been to Detroit, New Orleans, the Blue Ridge Mtns or the rural midwest and southwest parts of the US. In those places you will find REAL “slums” and “sub-slums” (dwellings not even built on foundations).[/quote]

On the contrary, in addition to San Diego, I have lived in the midwest (11 yrs), two cities on the East Coast (4 yrs each), and in Los Angeles (3 yrs). I have traveled to almost every state (45 or 46 of them, I believe).

Detroit is probably somewhat comparable to Baltimore, which has MANY blocks of abandoned and boarded-up row houses, including areas within walking distance to world-class attractions and hospitals (Aquarium, Inner Harbor, Johns Hopkins).

I agree that SD’s core will not reach the levels of poverty seen in some of these cities (and Tijuana), but I am concerned they may well decline to much worse conditions than seen at present. (ie as these homes reach the 100 year mark in the 2050-2070 era, without proper maintenance).

How can this be mitigated? How can urban planners, government, etc help this not happen, but still preserve people’s property rights, etc? Does anyone think that the re-zoning process should be amended? Or is considering that too unfair to the current owners / heirs in these geographically desirable locations?

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[quote=poorgradstudent] I do hope some version of the LA/SD line gets done in the next 5-10 years, which seems pretty feasible.[/quote]

ha ha ha ha!
No, I think the best-case scenario versions stand for completion in more like 2030, and there is NO plan to include San Diego at ALL. Los Angeles will be the southern-most end of the line. And all at a cost of… what was it… around $200 BILLION???

I listen to the John & Ken show (KFI AM 640)(alternating with NPR – ha!) mostly for entertainment value, but I think they are absolutely spot-on on this issue.

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