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ParticipantNext, Trump will claim that Obama is not a man! If enough people believe him, Obama will have to pull down his pants to prove that he is indeed a man! LOL!!!
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ParticipantNext, Trump will claim that Obama is not a man! If enough people believe him, Obama will have to pull down his pants to prove that he is indeed a man! LOL!!!
April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690314enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]
True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).
Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….
When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.
April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690382enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]
True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).
Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….
When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.
April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690997enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]
True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).
Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….
When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.
April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #691141enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]
True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).
Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….
When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.
April 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #691487enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]
True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).
Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….
When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.
April 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690284enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]
I also find it frightening that humans again think they are so superior that they can defeat 1000s of years of evolution in a petri dish. Certain plant species evolve to adapt to certain environments–to be draught resistant or to survive certain infestations. In the case of Inida, to try to wipe that all out with a man-made GMO crop…it’s the worst kind of arrogance.[/quote]
I understand the sentiment, but the facts are that we have been creating foods not present in the nature for centuries, even before GMO came along.
For example,
Durum wheat or macaroni wheat is the only tetraploid species of wheat of commercial importance that is widely cultivated today. It was developed by artificial selection of the domesticated emmer wheat strains formerly grown in Central Europe and Near East around 7000 B.C., which developed a naked, free-threshing form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/wheat/wheathist.htmlApril 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690352enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]
I also find it frightening that humans again think they are so superior that they can defeat 1000s of years of evolution in a petri dish. Certain plant species evolve to adapt to certain environments–to be draught resistant or to survive certain infestations. In the case of Inida, to try to wipe that all out with a man-made GMO crop…it’s the worst kind of arrogance.[/quote]
I understand the sentiment, but the facts are that we have been creating foods not present in the nature for centuries, even before GMO came along.
For example,
Durum wheat or macaroni wheat is the only tetraploid species of wheat of commercial importance that is widely cultivated today. It was developed by artificial selection of the domesticated emmer wheat strains formerly grown in Central Europe and Near East around 7000 B.C., which developed a naked, free-threshing form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/wheat/wheathist.htmlApril 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #690965enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]
I also find it frightening that humans again think they are so superior that they can defeat 1000s of years of evolution in a petri dish. Certain plant species evolve to adapt to certain environments–to be draught resistant or to survive certain infestations. In the case of Inida, to try to wipe that all out with a man-made GMO crop…it’s the worst kind of arrogance.[/quote]
I understand the sentiment, but the facts are that we have been creating foods not present in the nature for centuries, even before GMO came along.
For example,
Durum wheat or macaroni wheat is the only tetraploid species of wheat of commercial importance that is widely cultivated today. It was developed by artificial selection of the domesticated emmer wheat strains formerly grown in Central Europe and Near East around 7000 B.C., which developed a naked, free-threshing form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/wheat/wheathist.htmlApril 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #691111enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]
I also find it frightening that humans again think they are so superior that they can defeat 1000s of years of evolution in a petri dish. Certain plant species evolve to adapt to certain environments–to be draught resistant or to survive certain infestations. In the case of Inida, to try to wipe that all out with a man-made GMO crop…it’s the worst kind of arrogance.[/quote]
I understand the sentiment, but the facts are that we have been creating foods not present in the nature for centuries, even before GMO came along.
For example,
Durum wheat or macaroni wheat is the only tetraploid species of wheat of commercial importance that is widely cultivated today. It was developed by artificial selection of the domesticated emmer wheat strains formerly grown in Central Europe and Near East around 7000 B.C., which developed a naked, free-threshing form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/wheat/wheathist.htmlApril 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM in reply to: OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods…. #691459enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]
I also find it frightening that humans again think they are so superior that they can defeat 1000s of years of evolution in a petri dish. Certain plant species evolve to adapt to certain environments–to be draught resistant or to survive certain infestations. In the case of Inida, to try to wipe that all out with a man-made GMO crop…it’s the worst kind of arrogance.[/quote]
I understand the sentiment, but the facts are that we have been creating foods not present in the nature for centuries, even before GMO came along.
For example,
Durum wheat or macaroni wheat is the only tetraploid species of wheat of commercial importance that is widely cultivated today. It was developed by artificial selection of the domesticated emmer wheat strains formerly grown in Central Europe and Near East around 7000 B.C., which developed a naked, free-threshing form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/wheat/wheathist.htmlenron_by_the_sea
ParticipantConcho:
You articulate my feelings so well.
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ParticipantConcho:
You articulate my feelings so well.
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