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ParticipantWhile this article describes the national economy in the aggregate, huge differences are popping up in different regions. Energy producing and ag. states doing far better than those areas where the housing bubble has burst.
EconProf
ParticipantWhile this article describes the national economy in the aggregate, huge differences are popping up in different regions. Energy producing and ag. states doing far better than those areas where the housing bubble has burst.
EconProf
ParticipantWhile this article describes the national economy in the aggregate, huge differences are popping up in different regions. Energy producing and ag. states doing far better than those areas where the housing bubble has burst.
September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265182EconProf
ParticipantSounds like you buy into the urban myth that ALL farmworkers in CA are exploited, poor, and illegal. While many are, many also are not. Some are highly productive, and with piece work pay, can make a lot in a day’s work. The above posts prompted me to talk to a relative in Clovis who hires for their grape harvest and asserted their best workers can make over $20 per hour. Some are valuable enough and dependable enough for their company to move them around to different farms in CA and AZ as the different crops mature, paying their housing as well. I have several such tenants in my Yuma apartments, and one, to my amazement, drives a Cadillac SUV. Not the wisest expenditure, but its his choice. (Their company regularly wants to rent a block of apartment units for Yuma’s Oct. through May season, then move them to CA’s central valley for the rest of the year. I usually discourage this, because it leaves me with vacancies in the hard-to-fill summer months.)
No one is claiming these workers are to be envied–I couldn’t last 30 minutes doing that kind of labor. And for most of them, their bodies are used up after age 50. For most, the pay is much closer to minimum wage & with no benefits.
I am saying that workers in some occupations can often control whether they take a job or not, that they can raise and lower their threshold as to what is acceptable or not depending on their U-comp benefits, and can derive maximum annual earnings as the system is constructed. This applies to construction workers, actors, and many seasonal workers besides farmworkers. My brother is a union carpenter who never works for less than $32/hour (on the books), and works officially about half the year. His annual income for the past 20 years is 1/4 to 1/3 unemployment benefits.
The tax employers pay to fund the benefits are loosely adjusted for that employer’s layoff experience. But the connection is insufficiently correlated, so that some employers are indirectly subsidized in that the annual income of their work force is paid by the employers who never have layoffs.
I’ll admit the term “remarkably high” in the previous post was a misleading choice of words. Farmworkers still don’t make much. “Higher than commonly thought” was what I meant.September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265400EconProf
ParticipantSounds like you buy into the urban myth that ALL farmworkers in CA are exploited, poor, and illegal. While many are, many also are not. Some are highly productive, and with piece work pay, can make a lot in a day’s work. The above posts prompted me to talk to a relative in Clovis who hires for their grape harvest and asserted their best workers can make over $20 per hour. Some are valuable enough and dependable enough for their company to move them around to different farms in CA and AZ as the different crops mature, paying their housing as well. I have several such tenants in my Yuma apartments, and one, to my amazement, drives a Cadillac SUV. Not the wisest expenditure, but its his choice. (Their company regularly wants to rent a block of apartment units for Yuma’s Oct. through May season, then move them to CA’s central valley for the rest of the year. I usually discourage this, because it leaves me with vacancies in the hard-to-fill summer months.)
No one is claiming these workers are to be envied–I couldn’t last 30 minutes doing that kind of labor. And for most of them, their bodies are used up after age 50. For most, the pay is much closer to minimum wage & with no benefits.
I am saying that workers in some occupations can often control whether they take a job or not, that they can raise and lower their threshold as to what is acceptable or not depending on their U-comp benefits, and can derive maximum annual earnings as the system is constructed. This applies to construction workers, actors, and many seasonal workers besides farmworkers. My brother is a union carpenter who never works for less than $32/hour (on the books), and works officially about half the year. His annual income for the past 20 years is 1/4 to 1/3 unemployment benefits.
The tax employers pay to fund the benefits are loosely adjusted for that employer’s layoff experience. But the connection is insufficiently correlated, so that some employers are indirectly subsidized in that the annual income of their work force is paid by the employers who never have layoffs.
I’ll admit the term “remarkably high” in the previous post was a misleading choice of words. Farmworkers still don’t make much. “Higher than commonly thought” was what I meant.September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265403EconProf
ParticipantSounds like you buy into the urban myth that ALL farmworkers in CA are exploited, poor, and illegal. While many are, many also are not. Some are highly productive, and with piece work pay, can make a lot in a day’s work. The above posts prompted me to talk to a relative in Clovis who hires for their grape harvest and asserted their best workers can make over $20 per hour. Some are valuable enough and dependable enough for their company to move them around to different farms in CA and AZ as the different crops mature, paying their housing as well. I have several such tenants in my Yuma apartments, and one, to my amazement, drives a Cadillac SUV. Not the wisest expenditure, but its his choice. (Their company regularly wants to rent a block of apartment units for Yuma’s Oct. through May season, then move them to CA’s central valley for the rest of the year. I usually discourage this, because it leaves me with vacancies in the hard-to-fill summer months.)
No one is claiming these workers are to be envied–I couldn’t last 30 minutes doing that kind of labor. And for most of them, their bodies are used up after age 50. For most, the pay is much closer to minimum wage & with no benefits.
I am saying that workers in some occupations can often control whether they take a job or not, that they can raise and lower their threshold as to what is acceptable or not depending on their U-comp benefits, and can derive maximum annual earnings as the system is constructed. This applies to construction workers, actors, and many seasonal workers besides farmworkers. My brother is a union carpenter who never works for less than $32/hour (on the books), and works officially about half the year. His annual income for the past 20 years is 1/4 to 1/3 unemployment benefits.
The tax employers pay to fund the benefits are loosely adjusted for that employer’s layoff experience. But the connection is insufficiently correlated, so that some employers are indirectly subsidized in that the annual income of their work force is paid by the employers who never have layoffs.
I’ll admit the term “remarkably high” in the previous post was a misleading choice of words. Farmworkers still don’t make much. “Higher than commonly thought” was what I meant.September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265457EconProf
ParticipantSounds like you buy into the urban myth that ALL farmworkers in CA are exploited, poor, and illegal. While many are, many also are not. Some are highly productive, and with piece work pay, can make a lot in a day’s work. The above posts prompted me to talk to a relative in Clovis who hires for their grape harvest and asserted their best workers can make over $20 per hour. Some are valuable enough and dependable enough for their company to move them around to different farms in CA and AZ as the different crops mature, paying their housing as well. I have several such tenants in my Yuma apartments, and one, to my amazement, drives a Cadillac SUV. Not the wisest expenditure, but its his choice. (Their company regularly wants to rent a block of apartment units for Yuma’s Oct. through May season, then move them to CA’s central valley for the rest of the year. I usually discourage this, because it leaves me with vacancies in the hard-to-fill summer months.)
No one is claiming these workers are to be envied–I couldn’t last 30 minutes doing that kind of labor. And for most of them, their bodies are used up after age 50. For most, the pay is much closer to minimum wage & with no benefits.
I am saying that workers in some occupations can often control whether they take a job or not, that they can raise and lower their threshold as to what is acceptable or not depending on their U-comp benefits, and can derive maximum annual earnings as the system is constructed. This applies to construction workers, actors, and many seasonal workers besides farmworkers. My brother is a union carpenter who never works for less than $32/hour (on the books), and works officially about half the year. His annual income for the past 20 years is 1/4 to 1/3 unemployment benefits.
The tax employers pay to fund the benefits are loosely adjusted for that employer’s layoff experience. But the connection is insufficiently correlated, so that some employers are indirectly subsidized in that the annual income of their work force is paid by the employers who never have layoffs.
I’ll admit the term “remarkably high” in the previous post was a misleading choice of words. Farmworkers still don’t make much. “Higher than commonly thought” was what I meant.September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265492EconProf
ParticipantSounds like you buy into the urban myth that ALL farmworkers in CA are exploited, poor, and illegal. While many are, many also are not. Some are highly productive, and with piece work pay, can make a lot in a day’s work. The above posts prompted me to talk to a relative in Clovis who hires for their grape harvest and asserted their best workers can make over $20 per hour. Some are valuable enough and dependable enough for their company to move them around to different farms in CA and AZ as the different crops mature, paying their housing as well. I have several such tenants in my Yuma apartments, and one, to my amazement, drives a Cadillac SUV. Not the wisest expenditure, but its his choice. (Their company regularly wants to rent a block of apartment units for Yuma’s Oct. through May season, then move them to CA’s central valley for the rest of the year. I usually discourage this, because it leaves me with vacancies in the hard-to-fill summer months.)
No one is claiming these workers are to be envied–I couldn’t last 30 minutes doing that kind of labor. And for most of them, their bodies are used up after age 50. For most, the pay is much closer to minimum wage & with no benefits.
I am saying that workers in some occupations can often control whether they take a job or not, that they can raise and lower their threshold as to what is acceptable or not depending on their U-comp benefits, and can derive maximum annual earnings as the system is constructed. This applies to construction workers, actors, and many seasonal workers besides farmworkers. My brother is a union carpenter who never works for less than $32/hour (on the books), and works officially about half the year. His annual income for the past 20 years is 1/4 to 1/3 unemployment benefits.
The tax employers pay to fund the benefits are loosely adjusted for that employer’s layoff experience. But the connection is insufficiently correlated, so that some employers are indirectly subsidized in that the annual income of their work force is paid by the employers who never have layoffs.
I’ll admit the term “remarkably high” in the previous post was a misleading choice of words. Farmworkers still don’t make much. “Higher than commonly thought” was what I meant.September 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #264895EconProf
ParticipantThe seeds of today’s problems were planted with the 2001 near-doubling of benefits during the Grey Davis administration. Generous unemployment compensation benefits encourage the unemployed to turn down OK job possibilities and hold out for the perfect job. Many occupations such as farm workers and construction workers game the system by working half or two-thirds of the year, enough to get big benefits during the down months. Their overall annual income including benefits can be remarkably high as a result.
September 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265105EconProf
ParticipantThe seeds of today’s problems were planted with the 2001 near-doubling of benefits during the Grey Davis administration. Generous unemployment compensation benefits encourage the unemployed to turn down OK job possibilities and hold out for the perfect job. Many occupations such as farm workers and construction workers game the system by working half or two-thirds of the year, enough to get big benefits during the down months. Their overall annual income including benefits can be remarkably high as a result.
September 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265109EconProf
ParticipantThe seeds of today’s problems were planted with the 2001 near-doubling of benefits during the Grey Davis administration. Generous unemployment compensation benefits encourage the unemployed to turn down OK job possibilities and hold out for the perfect job. Many occupations such as farm workers and construction workers game the system by working half or two-thirds of the year, enough to get big benefits during the down months. Their overall annual income including benefits can be remarkably high as a result.
September 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265162EconProf
ParticipantThe seeds of today’s problems were planted with the 2001 near-doubling of benefits during the Grey Davis administration. Generous unemployment compensation benefits encourage the unemployed to turn down OK job possibilities and hold out for the perfect job. Many occupations such as farm workers and construction workers game the system by working half or two-thirds of the year, enough to get big benefits during the down months. Their overall annual income including benefits can be remarkably high as a result.
September 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM in reply to: Deficit looms for California’s unemployment benefit fund #265201EconProf
ParticipantThe seeds of today’s problems were planted with the 2001 near-doubling of benefits during the Grey Davis administration. Generous unemployment compensation benefits encourage the unemployed to turn down OK job possibilities and hold out for the perfect job. Many occupations such as farm workers and construction workers game the system by working half or two-thirds of the year, enough to get big benefits during the down months. Their overall annual income including benefits can be remarkably high as a result.
August 31, 2008 at 6:45 PM in reply to: Hysteria versus Reality: The Secular Left has killed over 100 Million People #264185EconProf
ParticipantRegarding the post about anti-abortionists not doing enough for the world’s poor, a recent study found that conservatives donate far more to charities than liberals. This was true even when church donations were taken out of the picture.
Also, FWIW Obama’s tax returns showed he and his $300,000+ per year wife gave under 2% of their income to charity last year. Bush reportedly gave over 10%, and McCain’s wife (OK, she’s rich) has done a lot for Rawanda for many years. -
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