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Participant[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=eclipxe]A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others.[/quote]
This is true, but it’s a huge limitation, and as soon as gas prices go back up, it’s a major economic factor as well.
By “not just the short term” I mean extending beyond the current bubble. A lot (not all) of this area is going to turn into slum/ghost town in the coming years. At the same time, it’s not a bad location and eventually the area will grow to accommodate the housing. For now, however, I think it’s fair to say that Temecula’s location is much more of a minus than a plus, and will be for some time. Those for whom that is not true can live like kings and queens. Or maybe Emperors and Empresses of the Inland Empire.
[/quote]I agree – it is currently an economic limitation and high gas prices will have an impact. It is also an opportunity to encourage much more job growth in the area. Despite the recession, there are segments of the economy (healthcare and biotech mainly) that are expanding and the area is poised to capture at least some of those jobs. I recently read about Murrieta’s shift in focus from housing to jobs. I’m paraphrasing but a councilman stated “we have enough rooftops, it’s time to get businesses”. How successful will this be? Time will tell, but tax incentives and stronger area marketing to businesses will help relieve our dependence on commuters.
A slum/ghost town? What are you smoking? There are several less desirable areas just as far flung, if not more-so in Southern California. Once those areas become slums I’ll give your prediction a bit of concern but come on.
I feel the location has its downsides but it is also somewhat of a positive. The area is close enough to provide commuters access to Orange County, San Diego and Riverside job centers. Compared to other far flung exurbs (Lancaster/Palmdale -> LA jobs, Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley -> LA jobs, Corona -> OC, Riverside jobs, etc) Temecula has a definite location positive and allows commuters to hedge their bets when it comes to job choice and access.
Temecula/Murrieta also has a competitive advantage over many other cities for telecommuters. Verizon FIOS allows for much smoother connectivity for remote access and video conferencing. One of the main factors that has allowed me to telecommute in my last two jobs has been the cheap, fast and low-latency connectivity to my home offices. Regular old cable and DSL internet connections don’t provide enough bandwidth or quick enough access times to make full-time remote access comfortable enough for certain job tasks. Dedicated lines get rid of the reliability and latency issues but are expensive and limited in bandwidth. FIOS is a near-perfect solution and is currently limited to a handful of cities (Temecula/Murrieta included)
Participant[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=eclipxe]A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others.[/quote]
This is true, but it’s a huge limitation, and as soon as gas prices go back up, it’s a major economic factor as well.
By “not just the short term” I mean extending beyond the current bubble. A lot (not all) of this area is going to turn into slum/ghost town in the coming years. At the same time, it’s not a bad location and eventually the area will grow to accommodate the housing. For now, however, I think it’s fair to say that Temecula’s location is much more of a minus than a plus, and will be for some time. Those for whom that is not true can live like kings and queens. Or maybe Emperors and Empresses of the Inland Empire.
[/quote]I agree – it is currently an economic limitation and high gas prices will have an impact. It is also an opportunity to encourage much more job growth in the area. Despite the recession, there are segments of the economy (healthcare and biotech mainly) that are expanding and the area is poised to capture at least some of those jobs. I recently read about Murrieta’s shift in focus from housing to jobs. I’m paraphrasing but a councilman stated “we have enough rooftops, it’s time to get businesses”. How successful will this be? Time will tell, but tax incentives and stronger area marketing to businesses will help relieve our dependence on commuters.
A slum/ghost town? What are you smoking? There are several less desirable areas just as far flung, if not more-so in Southern California. Once those areas become slums I’ll give your prediction a bit of concern but come on.
I feel the location has its downsides but it is also somewhat of a positive. The area is close enough to provide commuters access to Orange County, San Diego and Riverside job centers. Compared to other far flung exurbs (Lancaster/Palmdale -> LA jobs, Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley -> LA jobs, Corona -> OC, Riverside jobs, etc) Temecula has a definite location positive and allows commuters to hedge their bets when it comes to job choice and access.
Temecula/Murrieta also has a competitive advantage over many other cities for telecommuters. Verizon FIOS allows for much smoother connectivity for remote access and video conferencing. One of the main factors that has allowed me to telecommute in my last two jobs has been the cheap, fast and low-latency connectivity to my home offices. Regular old cable and DSL internet connections don’t provide enough bandwidth or quick enough access times to make full-time remote access comfortable enough for certain job tasks. Dedicated lines get rid of the reliability and latency issues but are expensive and limited in bandwidth. FIOS is a near-perfect solution and is currently limited to a handful of cities (Temecula/Murrieta included)
Participant[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=eclipxe]A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others.[/quote]
This is true, but it’s a huge limitation, and as soon as gas prices go back up, it’s a major economic factor as well.
By “not just the short term” I mean extending beyond the current bubble. A lot (not all) of this area is going to turn into slum/ghost town in the coming years. At the same time, it’s not a bad location and eventually the area will grow to accommodate the housing. For now, however, I think it’s fair to say that Temecula’s location is much more of a minus than a plus, and will be for some time. Those for whom that is not true can live like kings and queens. Or maybe Emperors and Empresses of the Inland Empire.
[/quote]I agree – it is currently an economic limitation and high gas prices will have an impact. It is also an opportunity to encourage much more job growth in the area. Despite the recession, there are segments of the economy (healthcare and biotech mainly) that are expanding and the area is poised to capture at least some of those jobs. I recently read about Murrieta’s shift in focus from housing to jobs. I’m paraphrasing but a councilman stated “we have enough rooftops, it’s time to get businesses”. How successful will this be? Time will tell, but tax incentives and stronger area marketing to businesses will help relieve our dependence on commuters.
A slum/ghost town? What are you smoking? There are several less desirable areas just as far flung, if not more-so in Southern California. Once those areas become slums I’ll give your prediction a bit of concern but come on.
I feel the location has its downsides but it is also somewhat of a positive. The area is close enough to provide commuters access to Orange County, San Diego and Riverside job centers. Compared to other far flung exurbs (Lancaster/Palmdale -> LA jobs, Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley -> LA jobs, Corona -> OC, Riverside jobs, etc) Temecula has a definite location positive and allows commuters to hedge their bets when it comes to job choice and access.
Temecula/Murrieta also has a competitive advantage over many other cities for telecommuters. Verizon FIOS allows for much smoother connectivity for remote access and video conferencing. One of the main factors that has allowed me to telecommute in my last two jobs has been the cheap, fast and low-latency connectivity to my home offices. Regular old cable and DSL internet connections don’t provide enough bandwidth or quick enough access times to make full-time remote access comfortable enough for certain job tasks. Dedicated lines get rid of the reliability and latency issues but are expensive and limited in bandwidth. FIOS is a near-perfect solution and is currently limited to a handful of cities (Temecula/Murrieta included)
Participant[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=eclipxe]A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others.[/quote]
This is true, but it’s a huge limitation, and as soon as gas prices go back up, it’s a major economic factor as well.
By “not just the short term” I mean extending beyond the current bubble. A lot (not all) of this area is going to turn into slum/ghost town in the coming years. At the same time, it’s not a bad location and eventually the area will grow to accommodate the housing. For now, however, I think it’s fair to say that Temecula’s location is much more of a minus than a plus, and will be for some time. Those for whom that is not true can live like kings and queens. Or maybe Emperors and Empresses of the Inland Empire.
[/quote]I agree – it is currently an economic limitation and high gas prices will have an impact. It is also an opportunity to encourage much more job growth in the area. Despite the recession, there are segments of the economy (healthcare and biotech mainly) that are expanding and the area is poised to capture at least some of those jobs. I recently read about Murrieta’s shift in focus from housing to jobs. I’m paraphrasing but a councilman stated “we have enough rooftops, it’s time to get businesses”. How successful will this be? Time will tell, but tax incentives and stronger area marketing to businesses will help relieve our dependence on commuters.
A slum/ghost town? What are you smoking? There are several less desirable areas just as far flung, if not more-so in Southern California. Once those areas become slums I’ll give your prediction a bit of concern but come on.
I feel the location has its downsides but it is also somewhat of a positive. The area is close enough to provide commuters access to Orange County, San Diego and Riverside job centers. Compared to other far flung exurbs (Lancaster/Palmdale -> LA jobs, Victorville/Hesperia/Apple Valley -> LA jobs, Corona -> OC, Riverside jobs, etc) Temecula has a definite location positive and allows commuters to hedge their bets when it comes to job choice and access.
Temecula/Murrieta also has a competitive advantage over many other cities for telecommuters. Verizon FIOS allows for much smoother connectivity for remote access and video conferencing. One of the main factors that has allowed me to telecommute in my last two jobs has been the cheap, fast and low-latency connectivity to my home offices. Regular old cable and DSL internet connections don’t provide enough bandwidth or quick enough access times to make full-time remote access comfortable enough for certain job tasks. Dedicated lines get rid of the reliability and latency issues but are expensive and limited in bandwidth. FIOS is a near-perfect solution and is currently limited to a handful of cities (Temecula/Murrieta included)
Participant[quote=paramount]Please join me in the real world!
“Do what you enjoy and it will all work out” – another load of s. If life were only that easy.
You do what pays the bills, and hopefully it happens to be something you enjoy. For most people, that’s the way things work.
Also, eclipxe, I wish I lived in your ideal world. IT is a moving target and skill requirements change and often rapidly – it often comes down to more than “GOOD” and “PRIDE” and all of that other BS your spouting – those subjective ideals alone will not guarantee that anyone is in demand.
As far as age discrimination is concerned, your comments have no value IMO as I suspect you don’t have a clue or have never been a victim of age discrimnation.
When you are 48 and get laid off from an IT job where you were making 6 figures then you might get the idea. Then maybe you won’t be so arrogant.
[/quote]Paramount – I apologize if I came off as arrogant. You are right that IT is a moving target and skills change rapidly. That is why you must consistently stay tuned with the industry and keep up skills outside of the workplace. For many that are in the industry this is a challenge because they lack passion (one of those pesky “subjective” ideals you deride so much). If you don’t have passion for what you do and are just doing it to pay the bills then why even live? You sound like you are definitely bitter and probably shouldn’t be in the industry.
Just FYI, your suspicions are wrong. I’ve been brushed aside and dismissed more than once because I was “too young”. The knife cuts both ways my friend – also try telling the 40 and 50 yr old senior engineers I work with that they are also facing discrimination. Based on the tone of your post I simply think the problem isn’t your age or skills but maybe your attitude?
But I do wish you the best – it is always tough to lose a job, especially with a family.
As far as skills that I’ve seen that are in demand – I screen resumes for new hires and we can’t find many decent engineers with experience in the following areas:
1. Embedded system design (ARM programming, device driver programming)
2. Advanced Perl skills – lots of legacy web applications need to be maintained and are written in Perl. extensive CPAN knowledge is a requirement
3. Healthcare knowledge (EMR, MPI and HL7 experts)
4. Emerging mobile platform skills – Android/J2ME and iPhone (these platforms are so new that developers are in very short supply with expert level skillsets)
5. OS X – Cocoa and Objective C experts. OS X is a growing market that we actively target and most good Cocoa developers are snatched up by Apple or work for a cushy ISV
6. Developers with Secret or TS clearance – there are several advanced government defense projects that need skilled developers with clearance. I’ve seen at least one company hiring for these projects in San Diego within the last week.
7. Linux/FOSS developers – a lot of healthcare initiatives are being proposed to the Obama administration and there is expected to be a large amount of funding available for a large national conversion to electronic medical records and IT healthcare systems. Almost every initiative that has passed through my desk has been based on open source technology and Linux. The largest healthcare IT project (VA VistA) is a model open-source development. One of the largest open source Vista software companies has just recently relocated to Carlsbad (from Aliso Viejo) and is actively hiring developers.
——There are 7 skillsets that I’ve tracked over the last year that either have openings locally (San Diego or Orange County) or I have actively tried to hire for. If you possessed those skills you’d have a 6 figure job instantly, despite your age.
Participant[quote=paramount]Please join me in the real world!
“Do what you enjoy and it will all work out” – another load of s. If life were only that easy.
You do what pays the bills, and hopefully it happens to be something you enjoy. For most people, that’s the way things work.
Also, eclipxe, I wish I lived in your ideal world. IT is a moving target and skill requirements change and often rapidly – it often comes down to more than “GOOD” and “PRIDE” and all of that other BS your spouting – those subjective ideals alone will not guarantee that anyone is in demand.
As far as age discrimination is concerned, your comments have no value IMO as I suspect you don’t have a clue or have never been a victim of age discrimnation.
When you are 48 and get laid off from an IT job where you were making 6 figures then you might get the idea. Then maybe you won’t be so arrogant.
[/quote]Paramount – I apologize if I came off as arrogant. You are right that IT is a moving target and skills change rapidly. That is why you must consistently stay tuned with the industry and keep up skills outside of the workplace. For many that are in the industry this is a challenge because they lack passion (one of those pesky “subjective” ideals you deride so much). If you don’t have passion for what you do and are just doing it to pay the bills then why even live? You sound like you are definitely bitter and probably shouldn’t be in the industry.
Just FYI, your suspicions are wrong. I’ve been brushed aside and dismissed more than once because I was “too young”. The knife cuts both ways my friend – also try telling the 40 and 50 yr old senior engineers I work with that they are also facing discrimination. Based on the tone of your post I simply think the problem isn’t your age or skills but maybe your attitude?
But I do wish you the best – it is always tough to lose a job, especially with a family.
As far as skills that I’ve seen that are in demand – I screen resumes for new hires and we can’t find many decent engineers with experience in the following areas:
1. Embedded system design (ARM programming, device driver programming)
2. Advanced Perl skills – lots of legacy web applications need to be maintained and are written in Perl. extensive CPAN knowledge is a requirement
3. Healthcare knowledge (EMR, MPI and HL7 experts)
4. Emerging mobile platform skills – Android/J2ME and iPhone (these platforms are so new that developers are in very short supply with expert level skillsets)
5. OS X – Cocoa and Objective C experts. OS X is a growing market that we actively target and most good Cocoa developers are snatched up by Apple or work for a cushy ISV
6. Developers with Secret or TS clearance – there are several advanced government defense projects that need skilled developers with clearance. I’ve seen at least one company hiring for these projects in San Diego within the last week.
7. Linux/FOSS developers – a lot of healthcare initiatives are being proposed to the Obama administration and there is expected to be a large amount of funding available for a large national conversion to electronic medical records and IT healthcare systems. Almost every initiative that has passed through my desk has been based on open source technology and Linux. The largest healthcare IT project (VA VistA) is a model open-source development. One of the largest open source Vista software companies has just recently relocated to Carlsbad (from Aliso Viejo) and is actively hiring developers.
——There are 7 skillsets that I’ve tracked over the last year that either have openings locally (San Diego or Orange County) or I have actively tried to hire for. If you possessed those skills you’d have a 6 figure job instantly, despite your age.
Participant[quote=paramount]Please join me in the real world!
“Do what you enjoy and it will all work out” – another load of s. If life were only that easy.
You do what pays the bills, and hopefully it happens to be something you enjoy. For most people, that’s the way things work.
Also, eclipxe, I wish I lived in your ideal world. IT is a moving target and skill requirements change and often rapidly – it often comes down to more than “GOOD” and “PRIDE” and all of that other BS your spouting – those subjective ideals alone will not guarantee that anyone is in demand.
As far as age discrimination is concerned, your comments have no value IMO as I suspect you don’t have a clue or have never been a victim of age discrimnation.
When you are 48 and get laid off from an IT job where you were making 6 figures then you might get the idea. Then maybe you won’t be so arrogant.
[/quote]Paramount – I apologize if I came off as arrogant. You are right that IT is a moving target and skills change rapidly. That is why you must consistently stay tuned with the industry and keep up skills outside of the workplace. For many that are in the industry this is a challenge because they lack passion (one of those pesky “subjective” ideals you deride so much). If you don’t have passion for what you do and are just doing it to pay the bills then why even live? You sound like you are definitely bitter and probably shouldn’t be in the industry.
Just FYI, your suspicions are wrong. I’ve been brushed aside and dismissed more than once because I was “too young”. The knife cuts both ways my friend – also try telling the 40 and 50 yr old senior engineers I work with that they are also facing discrimination. Based on the tone of your post I simply think the problem isn’t your age or skills but maybe your attitude?
But I do wish you the best – it is always tough to lose a job, especially with a family.
As far as skills that I’ve seen that are in demand – I screen resumes for new hires and we can’t find many decent engineers with experience in the following areas:
1. Embedded system design (ARM programming, device driver programming)
2. Advanced Perl skills – lots of legacy web applications need to be maintained and are written in Perl. extensive CPAN knowledge is a requirement
3. Healthcare knowledge (EMR, MPI and HL7 experts)
4. Emerging mobile platform skills – Android/J2ME and iPhone (these platforms are so new that developers are in very short supply with expert level skillsets)
5. OS X – Cocoa and Objective C experts. OS X is a growing market that we actively target and most good Cocoa developers are snatched up by Apple or work for a cushy ISV
6. Developers with Secret or TS clearance – there are several advanced government defense projects that need skilled developers with clearance. I’ve seen at least one company hiring for these projects in San Diego within the last week.
7. Linux/FOSS developers – a lot of healthcare initiatives are being proposed to the Obama administration and there is expected to be a large amount of funding available for a large national conversion to electronic medical records and IT healthcare systems. Almost every initiative that has passed through my desk has been based on open source technology and Linux. The largest healthcare IT project (VA VistA) is a model open-source development. One of the largest open source Vista software companies has just recently relocated to Carlsbad (from Aliso Viejo) and is actively hiring developers.
——There are 7 skillsets that I’ve tracked over the last year that either have openings locally (San Diego or Orange County) or I have actively tried to hire for. If you possessed those skills you’d have a 6 figure job instantly, despite your age.
Participant[quote=paramount]Please join me in the real world!
“Do what you enjoy and it will all work out” – another load of s. If life were only that easy.
You do what pays the bills, and hopefully it happens to be something you enjoy. For most people, that’s the way things work.
Also, eclipxe, I wish I lived in your ideal world. IT is a moving target and skill requirements change and often rapidly – it often comes down to more than “GOOD” and “PRIDE” and all of that other BS your spouting – those subjective ideals alone will not guarantee that anyone is in demand.
As far as age discrimination is concerned, your comments have no value IMO as I suspect you don’t have a clue or have never been a victim of age discrimnation.
When you are 48 and get laid off from an IT job where you were making 6 figures then you might get the idea. Then maybe you won’t be so arrogant.
[/quote]Paramount – I apologize if I came off as arrogant. You are right that IT is a moving target and skills change rapidly. That is why you must consistently stay tuned with the industry and keep up skills outside of the workplace. For many that are in the industry this is a challenge because they lack passion (one of those pesky “subjective” ideals you deride so much). If you don’t have passion for what you do and are just doing it to pay the bills then why even live? You sound like you are definitely bitter and probably shouldn’t be in the industry.
Just FYI, your suspicions are wrong. I’ve been brushed aside and dismissed more than once because I was “too young”. The knife cuts both ways my friend – also try telling the 40 and 50 yr old senior engineers I work with that they are also facing discrimination. Based on the tone of your post I simply think the problem isn’t your age or skills but maybe your attitude?
But I do wish you the best – it is always tough to lose a job, especially with a family.
As far as skills that I’ve seen that are in demand – I screen resumes for new hires and we can’t find many decent engineers with experience in the following areas:
1. Embedded system design (ARM programming, device driver programming)
2. Advanced Perl skills – lots of legacy web applications need to be maintained and are written in Perl. extensive CPAN knowledge is a requirement
3. Healthcare knowledge (EMR, MPI and HL7 experts)
4. Emerging mobile platform skills – Android/J2ME and iPhone (these platforms are so new that developers are in very short supply with expert level skillsets)
5. OS X – Cocoa and Objective C experts. OS X is a growing market that we actively target and most good Cocoa developers are snatched up by Apple or work for a cushy ISV
6. Developers with Secret or TS clearance – there are several advanced government defense projects that need skilled developers with clearance. I’ve seen at least one company hiring for these projects in San Diego within the last week.
7. Linux/FOSS developers – a lot of healthcare initiatives are being proposed to the Obama administration and there is expected to be a large amount of funding available for a large national conversion to electronic medical records and IT healthcare systems. Almost every initiative that has passed through my desk has been based on open source technology and Linux. The largest healthcare IT project (VA VistA) is a model open-source development. One of the largest open source Vista software companies has just recently relocated to Carlsbad (from Aliso Viejo) and is actively hiring developers.
——There are 7 skillsets that I’ve tracked over the last year that either have openings locally (San Diego or Orange County) or I have actively tried to hire for. If you possessed those skills you’d have a 6 figure job instantly, despite your age.
Participant[quote=paramount]Please join me in the real world!
“Do what you enjoy and it will all work out” – another load of s. If life were only that easy.
You do what pays the bills, and hopefully it happens to be something you enjoy. For most people, that’s the way things work.
Also, eclipxe, I wish I lived in your ideal world. IT is a moving target and skill requirements change and often rapidly – it often comes down to more than “GOOD” and “PRIDE” and all of that other BS your spouting – those subjective ideals alone will not guarantee that anyone is in demand.
As far as age discrimination is concerned, your comments have no value IMO as I suspect you don’t have a clue or have never been a victim of age discrimnation.
When you are 48 and get laid off from an IT job where you were making 6 figures then you might get the idea. Then maybe you won’t be so arrogant.
[/quote]Paramount – I apologize if I came off as arrogant. You are right that IT is a moving target and skills change rapidly. That is why you must consistently stay tuned with the industry and keep up skills outside of the workplace. For many that are in the industry this is a challenge because they lack passion (one of those pesky “subjective” ideals you deride so much). If you don’t have passion for what you do and are just doing it to pay the bills then why even live? You sound like you are definitely bitter and probably shouldn’t be in the industry.
Just FYI, your suspicions are wrong. I’ve been brushed aside and dismissed more than once because I was “too young”. The knife cuts both ways my friend – also try telling the 40 and 50 yr old senior engineers I work with that they are also facing discrimination. Based on the tone of your post I simply think the problem isn’t your age or skills but maybe your attitude?
But I do wish you the best – it is always tough to lose a job, especially with a family.
As far as skills that I’ve seen that are in demand – I screen resumes for new hires and we can’t find many decent engineers with experience in the following areas:
1. Embedded system design (ARM programming, device driver programming)
2. Advanced Perl skills – lots of legacy web applications need to be maintained and are written in Perl. extensive CPAN knowledge is a requirement
3. Healthcare knowledge (EMR, MPI and HL7 experts)
4. Emerging mobile platform skills – Android/J2ME and iPhone (these platforms are so new that developers are in very short supply with expert level skillsets)
5. OS X – Cocoa and Objective C experts. OS X is a growing market that we actively target and most good Cocoa developers are snatched up by Apple or work for a cushy ISV
6. Developers with Secret or TS clearance – there are several advanced government defense projects that need skilled developers with clearance. I’ve seen at least one company hiring for these projects in San Diego within the last week.
7. Linux/FOSS developers – a lot of healthcare initiatives are being proposed to the Obama administration and there is expected to be a large amount of funding available for a large national conversion to electronic medical records and IT healthcare systems. Almost every initiative that has passed through my desk has been based on open source technology and Linux. The largest healthcare IT project (VA VistA) is a model open-source development. One of the largest open source Vista software companies has just recently relocated to Carlsbad (from Aliso Viejo) and is actively hiring developers.
——There are 7 skillsets that I’ve tracked over the last year that either have openings locally (San Diego or Orange County) or I have actively tried to hire for. If you possessed those skills you’d have a 6 figure job instantly, despite your age.
Participant[quote=paramount]What do I recommend for alternate careers? That depends on the person, but there are many options from Trucking to the Medical Profession to name but two.
Also, the notion that if your “good” and holistic you’ll have no problems getting a job is an over simplification and a load of s.
For one thing, IT (software or not) has a lot of age discrimination – once your over 40 finding a job becomes much more difficult (particularly in IT).
Also, I no longer consider IT a “career” like perhaps a teacher where in general years of service is actually appreciated.
IT SUCKS!!!
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The software field is quite unique in the fact that once you have acquired the necessary skills, absolutely ZERO capital is needed to create a profitable business. If you are over 40 and in the software industry (and GOOD) then you should absolutely have the skills and drive to find a niche where you can compete. As a mISV or even independent contractor. However, if you are 40 and the extent of your knowledge is restarting the database when the finance guys call yelling at you – well then good luck. Pick up a book and start learning how to shape your own future building upon the basic tech skills you already have.
I started writing my own commercial software when I was 16…with no investment of my (or my parents) cash. If I could create something that people wanted to pay for (on a monthly basis at that – recurring revenue!) at 16, don’t cry about age discrimination and not being able to find an IT job. THAT is bs.
There seems to be this growing subset of IT professionals that are whining about age discrimination, outsourcing and unfairness in the industry. Just based on personal knowledge, the folks that are complaining are the ones that “got into computers for the money”. So, as I said before – “good” developers that have a passion for the things they build will always be in demand. You can’t outsource passion and pride in one’s work.
Participant[quote=paramount]What do I recommend for alternate careers? That depends on the person, but there are many options from Trucking to the Medical Profession to name but two.
Also, the notion that if your “good” and holistic you’ll have no problems getting a job is an over simplification and a load of s.
For one thing, IT (software or not) has a lot of age discrimination – once your over 40 finding a job becomes much more difficult (particularly in IT).
Also, I no longer consider IT a “career” like perhaps a teacher where in general years of service is actually appreciated.
IT SUCKS!!!
[/quote]
The software field is quite unique in the fact that once you have acquired the necessary skills, absolutely ZERO capital is needed to create a profitable business. If you are over 40 and in the software industry (and GOOD) then you should absolutely have the skills and drive to find a niche where you can compete. As a mISV or even independent contractor. However, if you are 40 and the extent of your knowledge is restarting the database when the finance guys call yelling at you – well then good luck. Pick up a book and start learning how to shape your own future building upon the basic tech skills you already have.
I started writing my own commercial software when I was 16…with no investment of my (or my parents) cash. If I could create something that people wanted to pay for (on a monthly basis at that – recurring revenue!) at 16, don’t cry about age discrimination and not being able to find an IT job. THAT is bs.
There seems to be this growing subset of IT professionals that are whining about age discrimination, outsourcing and unfairness in the industry. Just based on personal knowledge, the folks that are complaining are the ones that “got into computers for the money”. So, as I said before – “good” developers that have a passion for the things they build will always be in demand. You can’t outsource passion and pride in one’s work.
Participant[quote=paramount]What do I recommend for alternate careers? That depends on the person, but there are many options from Trucking to the Medical Profession to name but two.
Also, the notion that if your “good” and holistic you’ll have no problems getting a job is an over simplification and a load of s.
For one thing, IT (software or not) has a lot of age discrimination – once your over 40 finding a job becomes much more difficult (particularly in IT).
Also, I no longer consider IT a “career” like perhaps a teacher where in general years of service is actually appreciated.
IT SUCKS!!!
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The software field is quite unique in the fact that once you have acquired the necessary skills, absolutely ZERO capital is needed to create a profitable business. If you are over 40 and in the software industry (and GOOD) then you should absolutely have the skills and drive to find a niche where you can compete. As a mISV or even independent contractor. However, if you are 40 and the extent of your knowledge is restarting the database when the finance guys call yelling at you – well then good luck. Pick up a book and start learning how to shape your own future building upon the basic tech skills you already have.
I started writing my own commercial software when I was 16…with no investment of my (or my parents) cash. If I could create something that people wanted to pay for (on a monthly basis at that – recurring revenue!) at 16, don’t cry about age discrimination and not being able to find an IT job. THAT is bs.
There seems to be this growing subset of IT professionals that are whining about age discrimination, outsourcing and unfairness in the industry. Just based on personal knowledge, the folks that are complaining are the ones that “got into computers for the money”. So, as I said before – “good” developers that have a passion for the things they build will always be in demand. You can’t outsource passion and pride in one’s work.
Participant[quote=paramount]What do I recommend for alternate careers? That depends on the person, but there are many options from Trucking to the Medical Profession to name but two.
Also, the notion that if your “good” and holistic you’ll have no problems getting a job is an over simplification and a load of s.
For one thing, IT (software or not) has a lot of age discrimination – once your over 40 finding a job becomes much more difficult (particularly in IT).
Also, I no longer consider IT a “career” like perhaps a teacher where in general years of service is actually appreciated.
IT SUCKS!!!
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The software field is quite unique in the fact that once you have acquired the necessary skills, absolutely ZERO capital is needed to create a profitable business. If you are over 40 and in the software industry (and GOOD) then you should absolutely have the skills and drive to find a niche where you can compete. As a mISV or even independent contractor. However, if you are 40 and the extent of your knowledge is restarting the database when the finance guys call yelling at you – well then good luck. Pick up a book and start learning how to shape your own future building upon the basic tech skills you already have.
I started writing my own commercial software when I was 16…with no investment of my (or my parents) cash. If I could create something that people wanted to pay for (on a monthly basis at that – recurring revenue!) at 16, don’t cry about age discrimination and not being able to find an IT job. THAT is bs.
There seems to be this growing subset of IT professionals that are whining about age discrimination, outsourcing and unfairness in the industry. Just based on personal knowledge, the folks that are complaining are the ones that “got into computers for the money”. So, as I said before – “good” developers that have a passion for the things they build will always be in demand. You can’t outsource passion and pride in one’s work.
Participant[quote=paramount]What do I recommend for alternate careers? That depends on the person, but there are many options from Trucking to the Medical Profession to name but two.
Also, the notion that if your “good” and holistic you’ll have no problems getting a job is an over simplification and a load of s.
For one thing, IT (software or not) has a lot of age discrimination – once your over 40 finding a job becomes much more difficult (particularly in IT).
Also, I no longer consider IT a “career” like perhaps a teacher where in general years of service is actually appreciated.
IT SUCKS!!!
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The software field is quite unique in the fact that once you have acquired the necessary skills, absolutely ZERO capital is needed to create a profitable business. If you are over 40 and in the software industry (and GOOD) then you should absolutely have the skills and drive to find a niche where you can compete. As a mISV or even independent contractor. However, if you are 40 and the extent of your knowledge is restarting the database when the finance guys call yelling at you – well then good luck. Pick up a book and start learning how to shape your own future building upon the basic tech skills you already have.
I started writing my own commercial software when I was 16…with no investment of my (or my parents) cash. If I could create something that people wanted to pay for (on a monthly basis at that – recurring revenue!) at 16, don’t cry about age discrimination and not being able to find an IT job. THAT is bs.
There seems to be this growing subset of IT professionals that are whining about age discrimination, outsourcing and unfairness in the industry. Just based on personal knowledge, the folks that are complaining are the ones that “got into computers for the money”. So, as I said before – “good” developers that have a passion for the things they build will always be in demand. You can’t outsource passion and pride in one’s work.
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