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Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=Parabolica]Yes, no suprises there. I liked the bit in the article about Swedes who returned to Sweden after living in the US and couldn’t take the class-rigid society they found.
As best I know, no nordic countries ever directly compelled their poor to come to the US, which is what I took Jazzman to be saying.[/quote]
Ah, I think you, Jazzman, and I are on the same page (I had thought you were supporting dumbrenter’s post). It was dumbrenter who wrote the post about “shipping off their poor,” not Jazzman. :)[/quote]
You caught the culprit!
I agree with what Jazzman wrote.
My comment was about the Time study of nordic model and what they called “societal mores”.
Having a study without accounting that over time, they had an outlet for their poor lends itself open to survivor bias.Participant[quote=spdrun]Horseshit – plenty of countries had a lot of inequality even AFTER they shipped their poor overseas. i.e. Ireland.[/quote]
Then why use nordic countries as an example and why not Ireland?
The fact is that many of the euro countries being touted as examples today for US to follow now did have an outlet for their population as their societies were transitioning. The US does not have that. And of course your equality stats look better once you have gotten rid of poor over time.And people compare a homogenous sweden of 10mil people to a country of 300+ million people which is not as homogenous in any sense.
Horseshit indeed, Ikea style.Participant[quote=Jazzman]Econprof if you read the commentary, the film maker had to edit down to three minutes, and the video does reference income. One would hope it is a teaser to sequels that flesh out who these super rich are, how they accumulated their wealth, and how a more even distribution is achieved. I think what is unsettling is the notion that concentrations of wealth and its corollary power, are reminiscent of an era we associate with a less evolved society, where access to the political process, education, and opportunity is discriminatory. I don’t think we are devolving in that sense, but the wealth concentration phenomenon needs to be examined in the context of the overall health of a society. Ironically, you might find similarly huge disparities in China and Russia, and if comparing rich and poor countries the divide is very apparent again. Time magazine recently did a study of the Nordic model where societal mores are in lockstep with a consensual process. A hybrid Freidman socialism. It works, but the question of adapting it on a large scale presents challenges.[/quote]
Does the nordic model you refer to take into account that at one point they shipped off their poor to the US? What kind of societal mores allow for that?
And if US were to copy that model, where do you suggest we ship our poor off to? Because, once the bottom 20% is removed, the inequality might not looks as bad as it seems.ParticipantWho was it that said that day traders eat like squirrels but shit like elephants? I forget who it was that said that.
Participantthis plan is for poor people
ParticipantThe campsites by the coast go fast in summer. Forget 8am, if you are not ready by 1am, to the day 6 months before you go camping, all good sites are gone.
You have two options:
1. Many of these sites set aside some campsites for those that drive up there on a first come first serve basis. These are not part of the reservation pool. You can take your chances and try that. But it helps to have a backup plan if the campsite is not available.
2. Try only those campgrounds that do not take reservation or try the private campgrounds, these will be expensive but not as sought after.Happy camping.
Participant11. You actually take time to read this contradictory list instead of getting some work done that actually pays.
12. You spend too much time on Piggington.
Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea]I just donated to Brady campaign.
Who else can I donate to?[/quote]
NRA
Participant[quote=paramount]4S Ranch is 5 minutes or less from my place of employment.
Last year I made close to 150k.
I have typical debt levels.
I cannot afford to live in 4S.
If your worried about HOA and MR, you can’t afford 4S.
I spend a lot of time at 4S Ranch, and it is for the 1%ers…unfortunately for me.
I lost the ovarian lottery. Oh well.[/quote]
4S ranch is a middle class neighborhood, definitely not for 1%ers who have much better options.
Participant[quote=squat300]It’s difficult to strangle or beat someone to death. Try it. You have to get really revved up.
Shooting someone is almost as easy as picking your nose.[/quote]
You obviously never strangled, beat or shoot somebody.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=dumbrenter][quote=CA renter] And I’ve never heard of a white U.S. citizen taking over a commercial airliner in order to commit a terrorist act, yet they are the majority of people who are subjected to TSA screenings.
But, hey, it’s “for our own good,” right? Don’t question authority![/quote]
While I don’t really disagree with what you have to say, you might want to get educated a little about “white”ness of the terrorists who belong to the moslem faith (generally considered to be terrorists). There are millions of them who are racially white and have been moslem for generations. Additionally many of those from the Levant will easily pass for white. I wonder how you will be able to screen them out.
They might even be your neighbors!! I think you should start on a procedure for “white”ness test and you might even save us some taxpayer money.
That way you can have TSA grope all blacks (or is it still ni*&ers for you?), yellow people, slit eyes and all but leave your “white US citizen” alone.You are correct about passengers on private flights not being subject to same level of inspection. You had my sympathy till you came up with this!
My apologies to other readers for this hijack.[/quote]
You are 100% correct, and I should have worded my post differently. When I said “white U.S. citizen,” I was referring to the “traditional white American,” going back multiple generations — the WASP-ish American (though including other Christian religions) and/or American of northern/western European decent. I’m sure you’ll find these descriptions offensive as well, and I apologize for that in advance. If you can find a better way to put it, please feel free to share it.
The point is that the vast majority of terrorists who hijack commercial airliners are Muslims, most often from the Middle East. Yes, this will bring about howls of criticism from those who believe we should never profile, but there has yet to be a more effective, cost-efficient way of screening people who are considered to be high risk. It is ridiculous that elderly grandmothers and young children are being subjected to this screening when they have never to my knowledge been involved in any hijacking event.
I also believe that any significant cultural changes have to come from within a particular group. Nobody wants to be told what to do by an “outsider” who doesn’t understand the culture, beliefs, and habits of a particular group. If enough law-abiding Muslims are inconvenienced to the point that they get sick and tired of the profiling, they might put more pressure on those who are causing the problems within their communities.
Of course, you might think it’s preferable to spend billions upon billions more so that we can be politically correct, but we can agree to disagree on that front.[/quote]
Hey it was you who was going to suggest the “white”ness required to waive the TSA screening. So far all I hear is something about a “traditional white american” who can prove they came here some generations ago.
Interesting…maybe everybody should carry a card that shows their genealogy…not sure if this applies to black folk who were offspring of rape and all (will they fall under your western/northern european category?). But going by what you are saying, I guess not.
Maybe we should enforce a total race segregation so we can save a few dollars on TSA groping. Do you think it is worth it?
Assuming your worst conspiracy theories are true, I’d rather throw my lot with the drones and TSA since I now know that all you are concerned about is saving a few dollars but endanger us all with your ignorant correlations between ethnicity and religion.Participant[quote=squat300]It might be best to start teaching schoolkids now how to create IEDs to disable govt vehicles approaching their homes per the 2nd amendment. why isn’t that in the curriculum?[/quote]
IEDs are considered after school activity. The only prerequisite is that you follow instructions and identify colors. Homeschoolers are excluded because they are “creative” and have trouble following instructions from a figure of authoritey!
Maybe you missed that in the options for such after school activities available to you. Wasn’t the local militia listed on the sheet for you? Maybe you picked dance instead 🙂Participant[quote=CA renter] And I’ve never heard of a white U.S. citizen taking over a commercial airliner in order to commit a terrorist act, yet they are the majority of people who are subjected to TSA screenings.
But, hey, it’s “for our own good,” right? Don’t question authority![/quote]
While I don’t really disagree with what you have to say, you might want to get educated a little about “white”ness of the terrorists who belong to the moslem faith (generally considered to be terrorists). There are millions of them who are racially white and have been moslem for generations. Additionally many of those from the Levant will easily pass for white. I wonder how you will be able to screen them out.
They might even be your neighbors!! I think you should start on a procedure for “white”ness test and you might even save us some taxpayer money.
That way you can have TSA grope all blacks (or is it still ni*&ers for you?), yellow people, slit eyes and all but leave your “white US citizen” alone.You are correct about passengers on private flights not being subject to same level of inspection. You had my sympathy till you came up with this!
My apologies to other readers for this hijack.
Participant[quote=squat300] the power of america’s stable institutions have a heck of a lot more to do with the stability of the govt that the ak-47 in some dude’s closet with a blood splatter pattern pro gun tshirt[/quote]
Yeah, right. The power of “institutions”. This government structure is beginning to resemble an oppressive one.
With near continuous surveillance, tracking and a very cooperative media, we are pretty much a police state where the big guy will tell us what to think. All this is paid for from the extortion in the name of taxes for programs/wars we don’t really need.
The only difference here is unlike europe and other so-called democracies, the government can go only so far before the heavily armed citizenry pushes back.We have seen arms control advocates use arguments from “Americans are violent people” to exceptionalism (we have better institutions, or maybe we are simply better than others). Why is it so hard to see that we are just like everybody else except for the 2nd amendment and that makes all the difference in how we want to govern ourselves?
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