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March 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #169885March 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170219
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Participantchris:
your insecurity is strange. you don’t have to convince everyone that you’re right, you dont have to convince everyone that you’re a winner. you’re far from the mindless “buy the dips, dollar cost average” idiots, your trend analysis is worth noting and far more valuable. if it weren’t for bombs that are dropping behind the veil of lies and deceit, you’d probably have been spot on.
March 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170222Participantchris:
your insecurity is strange. you don’t have to convince everyone that you’re right, you dont have to convince everyone that you’re a winner. you’re far from the mindless “buy the dips, dollar cost average” idiots, your trend analysis is worth noting and far more valuable. if it weren’t for bombs that are dropping behind the veil of lies and deceit, you’d probably have been spot on.
March 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170245Participantchris:
your insecurity is strange. you don’t have to convince everyone that you’re right, you dont have to convince everyone that you’re a winner. you’re far from the mindless “buy the dips, dollar cost average” idiots, your trend analysis is worth noting and far more valuable. if it weren’t for bombs that are dropping behind the veil of lies and deceit, you’d probably have been spot on.
March 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170324Participantchris:
your insecurity is strange. you don’t have to convince everyone that you’re right, you dont have to convince everyone that you’re a winner. you’re far from the mindless “buy the dips, dollar cost average” idiots, your trend analysis is worth noting and far more valuable. if it weren’t for bombs that are dropping behind the veil of lies and deceit, you’d probably have been spot on.
March 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #169786Participantdave:
as far as i can tell (from a layman’s pov), the equities are already hosed. there’ll be no bailout for the equities unless someone wants to come in with a buyout offer at recalculus prices.
the bonds and bond holders across the board are being saved here; if bsc went belly up and had to liquidate, everyone else holding those same bonds would be equally hosed. marked to market or as they say in housing, it’s a comp killer.
edit: fdic, sipc, etc… the fed just threw hundreds of billions of dollars into a black hole, what’s going to be left for depositor’s insurance afterwards? granted, they’re not the same entities, but by having the fed kill the dollar in order to save 1 lousy rotting piece of flesh, there’ll be nothing left for anyone to try and save the body…
March 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170119Participantdave:
as far as i can tell (from a layman’s pov), the equities are already hosed. there’ll be no bailout for the equities unless someone wants to come in with a buyout offer at recalculus prices.
the bonds and bond holders across the board are being saved here; if bsc went belly up and had to liquidate, everyone else holding those same bonds would be equally hosed. marked to market or as they say in housing, it’s a comp killer.
edit: fdic, sipc, etc… the fed just threw hundreds of billions of dollars into a black hole, what’s going to be left for depositor’s insurance afterwards? granted, they’re not the same entities, but by having the fed kill the dollar in order to save 1 lousy rotting piece of flesh, there’ll be nothing left for anyone to try and save the body…
March 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170122Participantdave:
as far as i can tell (from a layman’s pov), the equities are already hosed. there’ll be no bailout for the equities unless someone wants to come in with a buyout offer at recalculus prices.
the bonds and bond holders across the board are being saved here; if bsc went belly up and had to liquidate, everyone else holding those same bonds would be equally hosed. marked to market or as they say in housing, it’s a comp killer.
edit: fdic, sipc, etc… the fed just threw hundreds of billions of dollars into a black hole, what’s going to be left for depositor’s insurance afterwards? granted, they’re not the same entities, but by having the fed kill the dollar in order to save 1 lousy rotting piece of flesh, there’ll be nothing left for anyone to try and save the body…
March 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170145Participantdave:
as far as i can tell (from a layman’s pov), the equities are already hosed. there’ll be no bailout for the equities unless someone wants to come in with a buyout offer at recalculus prices.
the bonds and bond holders across the board are being saved here; if bsc went belly up and had to liquidate, everyone else holding those same bonds would be equally hosed. marked to market or as they say in housing, it’s a comp killer.
edit: fdic, sipc, etc… the fed just threw hundreds of billions of dollars into a black hole, what’s going to be left for depositor’s insurance afterwards? granted, they’re not the same entities, but by having the fed kill the dollar in order to save 1 lousy rotting piece of flesh, there’ll be nothing left for anyone to try and save the body…
March 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170221Participantdave:
as far as i can tell (from a layman’s pov), the equities are already hosed. there’ll be no bailout for the equities unless someone wants to come in with a buyout offer at recalculus prices.
the bonds and bond holders across the board are being saved here; if bsc went belly up and had to liquidate, everyone else holding those same bonds would be equally hosed. marked to market or as they say in housing, it’s a comp killer.
edit: fdic, sipc, etc… the fed just threw hundreds of billions of dollars into a black hole, what’s going to be left for depositor’s insurance afterwards? granted, they’re not the same entities, but by having the fed kill the dollar in order to save 1 lousy rotting piece of flesh, there’ll be nothing left for anyone to try and save the body…
March 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #169741Participantdave:
why should the bond holders be saved, but not the equities? aren’t they both “investments”? who are more likely to hold what: j6p = common shares vs ib = bonds?
neither should be saved, imo. cnbc reported that this was a non recourse loan to jp in order bail out bear. non recourse… we get to prop up the bond market. hurray.
btw, the taf and the taf2 should be shut down, all institutions forced to use the discount window and DECLARE THEIR FUCKING (IN)SOLVENCY. these cocks straight lied not 2-3 days ago about their situation… this kind of nonsense at the gov, fed, institution, ratings and media levels all destroy trust across the board which is ultimately going to be much much worse…
March 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170070Participantdave:
why should the bond holders be saved, but not the equities? aren’t they both “investments”? who are more likely to hold what: j6p = common shares vs ib = bonds?
neither should be saved, imo. cnbc reported that this was a non recourse loan to jp in order bail out bear. non recourse… we get to prop up the bond market. hurray.
btw, the taf and the taf2 should be shut down, all institutions forced to use the discount window and DECLARE THEIR FUCKING (IN)SOLVENCY. these cocks straight lied not 2-3 days ago about their situation… this kind of nonsense at the gov, fed, institution, ratings and media levels all destroy trust across the board which is ultimately going to be much much worse…
March 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170076Participantdave:
why should the bond holders be saved, but not the equities? aren’t they both “investments”? who are more likely to hold what: j6p = common shares vs ib = bonds?
neither should be saved, imo. cnbc reported that this was a non recourse loan to jp in order bail out bear. non recourse… we get to prop up the bond market. hurray.
btw, the taf and the taf2 should be shut down, all institutions forced to use the discount window and DECLARE THEIR FUCKING (IN)SOLVENCY. these cocks straight lied not 2-3 days ago about their situation… this kind of nonsense at the gov, fed, institution, ratings and media levels all destroy trust across the board which is ultimately going to be much much worse…
March 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170101Participantdave:
why should the bond holders be saved, but not the equities? aren’t they both “investments”? who are more likely to hold what: j6p = common shares vs ib = bonds?
neither should be saved, imo. cnbc reported that this was a non recourse loan to jp in order bail out bear. non recourse… we get to prop up the bond market. hurray.
btw, the taf and the taf2 should be shut down, all institutions forced to use the discount window and DECLARE THEIR FUCKING (IN)SOLVENCY. these cocks straight lied not 2-3 days ago about their situation… this kind of nonsense at the gov, fed, institution, ratings and media levels all destroy trust across the board which is ultimately going to be much much worse…
March 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM in reply to: I think it’s pretty safe to say that Bear Streans is more or less finished. #170176Participantdave:
why should the bond holders be saved, but not the equities? aren’t they both “investments”? who are more likely to hold what: j6p = common shares vs ib = bonds?
neither should be saved, imo. cnbc reported that this was a non recourse loan to jp in order bail out bear. non recourse… we get to prop up the bond market. hurray.
btw, the taf and the taf2 should be shut down, all institutions forced to use the discount window and DECLARE THEIR FUCKING (IN)SOLVENCY. these cocks straight lied not 2-3 days ago about their situation… this kind of nonsense at the gov, fed, institution, ratings and media levels all destroy trust across the board which is ultimately going to be much much worse…
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