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davelj
ParticipantMarion: “Any man in a relationship with me will understand that I’m am the only female he’ll be getting his milk from.”
I would add to the end of that sentence: “or so long as he can fool me into believing that’s actually the case.”
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “Any man in a relationship with me will understand that I’m am the only female he’ll be getting his milk from.”
I would add to the end of that sentence: “or so long as he can fool me into believing that’s actually the case.”
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “Any man in a relationship with me will understand that I’m am the only female he’ll be getting his milk from.”
I would add to the end of that sentence: “or so long as he can fool me into believing that’s actually the case.”
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “So in following your plan, I will have effectively changed my profession to that of a hooker.”
I might substitute the word “changed” with “defined.” But reasonable people can disagree.
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “So in following your plan, I will have effectively changed my profession to that of a hooker.”
I might substitute the word “changed” with “defined.” But reasonable people can disagree.
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “So in following your plan, I will have effectively changed my profession to that of a hooker.”
I might substitute the word “changed” with “defined.” But reasonable people can disagree.
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “So in following your plan, I will have effectively changed my profession to that of a hooker.”
I might substitute the word “changed” with “defined.” But reasonable people can disagree.
davelj
ParticipantMarion: “So in following your plan, I will have effectively changed my profession to that of a hooker.”
I might substitute the word “changed” with “defined.” But reasonable people can disagree.
davelj
ParticipantMarion,
Perhaps I’m wrong (it’s no skin off my back), but another thing I’ve noticed in my life is that 90% of women will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince someone that they’re in the 10% that don’t care about money… all evidence to the contrary. Case in point:
stin·gy (adj.)
1. reluctant to give or spend; not generous: He’s a stingy old miser.
2. scanty or meager: A stingy little income.Seems like the word “stingy,” at bottom, is ALL about money. I think it’s pretty clear that your comments are not being “taken out of context.” You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the guy to “impress you” with a “nice date” that, as you’ve already explained, you have no intentions of paying for. And, at the same time, you want us to believe that “you don’t care about money.” I must admit, you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands. Do you think this guy describes you as stingy despite the fact that he’s paid for “mostly” all of the dates? That’s a rhetorical question. Women, as a general rule, don’t pay. After all, they might label the man as “stingy.”
Here’s my suggestion: Tell the man that you’d like to go on a nice date and define for him precisely what “nice date” means. Since he’s told you that he’d like to sleep with you, tell him that he’ll be able to sleep with you in exchange for this nice date. I think you’ll be on the road toward a mutually beneficial relationship with very little confusion between you.
davelj
ParticipantMarion,
Perhaps I’m wrong (it’s no skin off my back), but another thing I’ve noticed in my life is that 90% of women will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince someone that they’re in the 10% that don’t care about money… all evidence to the contrary. Case in point:
stin·gy (adj.)
1. reluctant to give or spend; not generous: He’s a stingy old miser.
2. scanty or meager: A stingy little income.Seems like the word “stingy,” at bottom, is ALL about money. I think it’s pretty clear that your comments are not being “taken out of context.” You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the guy to “impress you” with a “nice date” that, as you’ve already explained, you have no intentions of paying for. And, at the same time, you want us to believe that “you don’t care about money.” I must admit, you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands. Do you think this guy describes you as stingy despite the fact that he’s paid for “mostly” all of the dates? That’s a rhetorical question. Women, as a general rule, don’t pay. After all, they might label the man as “stingy.”
Here’s my suggestion: Tell the man that you’d like to go on a nice date and define for him precisely what “nice date” means. Since he’s told you that he’d like to sleep with you, tell him that he’ll be able to sleep with you in exchange for this nice date. I think you’ll be on the road toward a mutually beneficial relationship with very little confusion between you.
davelj
ParticipantMarion,
Perhaps I’m wrong (it’s no skin off my back), but another thing I’ve noticed in my life is that 90% of women will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince someone that they’re in the 10% that don’t care about money… all evidence to the contrary. Case in point:
stin·gy (adj.)
1. reluctant to give or spend; not generous: He’s a stingy old miser.
2. scanty or meager: A stingy little income.Seems like the word “stingy,” at bottom, is ALL about money. I think it’s pretty clear that your comments are not being “taken out of context.” You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the guy to “impress you” with a “nice date” that, as you’ve already explained, you have no intentions of paying for. And, at the same time, you want us to believe that “you don’t care about money.” I must admit, you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands. Do you think this guy describes you as stingy despite the fact that he’s paid for “mostly” all of the dates? That’s a rhetorical question. Women, as a general rule, don’t pay. After all, they might label the man as “stingy.”
Here’s my suggestion: Tell the man that you’d like to go on a nice date and define for him precisely what “nice date” means. Since he’s told you that he’d like to sleep with you, tell him that he’ll be able to sleep with you in exchange for this nice date. I think you’ll be on the road toward a mutually beneficial relationship with very little confusion between you.
davelj
ParticipantMarion,
Perhaps I’m wrong (it’s no skin off my back), but another thing I’ve noticed in my life is that 90% of women will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince someone that they’re in the 10% that don’t care about money… all evidence to the contrary. Case in point:
stin·gy (adj.)
1. reluctant to give or spend; not generous: He’s a stingy old miser.
2. scanty or meager: A stingy little income.Seems like the word “stingy,” at bottom, is ALL about money. I think it’s pretty clear that your comments are not being “taken out of context.” You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the guy to “impress you” with a “nice date” that, as you’ve already explained, you have no intentions of paying for. And, at the same time, you want us to believe that “you don’t care about money.” I must admit, you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands. Do you think this guy describes you as stingy despite the fact that he’s paid for “mostly” all of the dates? That’s a rhetorical question. Women, as a general rule, don’t pay. After all, they might label the man as “stingy.”
Here’s my suggestion: Tell the man that you’d like to go on a nice date and define for him precisely what “nice date” means. Since he’s told you that he’d like to sleep with you, tell him that he’ll be able to sleep with you in exchange for this nice date. I think you’ll be on the road toward a mutually beneficial relationship with very little confusion between you.
davelj
ParticipantMarion,
Perhaps I’m wrong (it’s no skin off my back), but another thing I’ve noticed in my life is that 90% of women will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince someone that they’re in the 10% that don’t care about money… all evidence to the contrary. Case in point:
stin·gy (adj.)
1. reluctant to give or spend; not generous: He’s a stingy old miser.
2. scanty or meager: A stingy little income.Seems like the word “stingy,” at bottom, is ALL about money. I think it’s pretty clear that your comments are not being “taken out of context.” You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the guy to “impress you” with a “nice date” that, as you’ve already explained, you have no intentions of paying for. And, at the same time, you want us to believe that “you don’t care about money.” I must admit, you’ve got quite a challenge on your hands. Do you think this guy describes you as stingy despite the fact that he’s paid for “mostly” all of the dates? That’s a rhetorical question. Women, as a general rule, don’t pay. After all, they might label the man as “stingy.”
Here’s my suggestion: Tell the man that you’d like to go on a nice date and define for him precisely what “nice date” means. Since he’s told you that he’d like to sleep with you, tell him that he’ll be able to sleep with you in exchange for this nice date. I think you’ll be on the road toward a mutually beneficial relationship with very little confusion between you.
davelj
ParticipantIn my opinion, marriage is a bad idea in general. Kids are a worse idea. Marriage without a pre-nup is a horrific idea if you’re the party with the greater amount of assets. In general, marriage is a triumph of hope over observable experience. Having said that…
A man or woman that brings up a pre-nup out of nowhere prior to a serious discussion regarding marriage is extremely odd unless the subject of pre-nups came up independently on its own (like, “I read recently that so-and-so didn’t have a pre-nup…”). A guy that says “he doesn’t want someone hanging around for the money” is also odd, in my opinion. On the other hand, your comment that you “don’t give a blank about whatever money he has” is a lie (conscious or subconscious) 90% of the time it’s uttered.
I’ll spare you a long diatribe on evolutionary psychology but, put simply, a man’s ability to make money is a signal, albeit a somewhat flawed one, of his ability to protect and provide for a woman and (their future?) children. (The biggest problem here is that there is a difference between “ability” and “willingness.”) Twenty thousand years ago agility and brute strength were a man’s primary evolutionary advantage in attracting females. Today brute strength, looks, etc. definitely help, but IN GENERAL TERMS the most important trait in attracting females is, quite obviously, the ability to make money. (THIS IS NOT A GOOD OR BAD THING HOWEVER. It’s merely an evolutionary adaptation – it’s morally neutral.) The vast majority of women over the age of 25 subconsciously know this to be true whether or not they are willing to admit it to themselves.
So, to sum things up, in my opinion it seems like you two are made for each other. He’s pretending that he has enough wealth for it to matter whether or not a pre-nup is necessary, and you’re pretending to not care about the money he probably doesn’t have. But I’ve been wrong before.
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