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CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=sdrealtor]Minivan is what works best and why most parents of young kids get them[/quote]
Scaredy has young kids? I must have missed that part.
I though his children were grown.[/quote]
No no no. We’re mixing up gzz and scardey here.
1. Gzz should get a Toyota Sienna because he has young kids, older parents, and needs to be soccer dad eventually.
Gzz, go get your Toyota Sienna hybrid and call it a day.
2. Scardey is an old fart going through mid life crisis… He should get a McLaren Artura and call it a day…It will satisfy his mid life crisis ole fart syndrome. And since it’s a hybrid, he can say he’s mildy going green…sort of… Plus, it’s an automatic, so rowing manual gearbox not required at old fart age, where the hand-eye coordination just isn’t quite there anymore….
Check it out.. https://cars.mclaren.com/us-en/artura“The next-generation supercar offers next-level driver engagement. The innovative cockpit design brings powertrain and handling control switches within fingertip reach. Keeping your hands on the wheel, and eyes on the road. Electro-hydraulic steering provides optimum feedback.
The E-Motor’s instant torque enables throttle response that’s twice as fast as our pure petrol cars – seamlessly transitioning to the V6 engine to deliver a torrent of power from standstill. Infotainment and connectivity deepen your engagement too – including new HD touchscreens, Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ capability.”
Scardey, go get your McLaren Artura… It’s not that bad. Starts around $238k, which isn’t insane for a supercar. Consider the Ferrari SF90 for example starts at $516k, and there’s a premium such that preowned ones are around $800k, and you can’t simply just walk into a Ferrari dealer and order one. As the saying goes. You don’t pick ferrari…ferrari picks you….
McLaren isn’t as anal retentive. You want, you order, you get. It’s as simple as that. Pay no attention to the fact that McLaren is in financial trouble… With your help, you’ll help them stay alive.
CoronitaParticipantWell since the gvwr of the x7 is over 6000lbs, it would qualify for section 179 full deduction. Unfortunately, the sienna is 5995…
CoronitaParticipantThis is interesting.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/winter-coming-best-country-world-230000360.html
Switzerland is thinking of limiting EV car usage during the winter energy crunch.
CoronitaParticipantI think the Mercedes AMG station wagon is way overdone.
X7, not a big fan of it.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=barnaby33]
Dude, we’re all standing around waiting for Rich to crunch the latest Case-Schiller numbers. What else do you want to talk about? Elon? Kan(Ye)? Tons of other places to do that.
Sorry there’s history here. Scardey is a shit stirer of the oh-so-nervous-kind. I just realized that he’s either not going to buy a car, or he’ll just buy the wrong one (with say the wrong color of vegan leather) then endlessly snipe about it.
Minivan is still the safest option to be un-cool, un-happy and reasonably safe.
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You are so wrong. Minivans can be cool.You can put a HKS supercharger in the Sienna and do gulfwing doors on it and air suspensions!!!!
Check out this cool video…
CoronitaParticipant[quote=gzz]
Hyundai Tucson?
Toyota Highlander?Those sound very big for a solo commute.
They seem to be a waste of gas, and harder/less fun to drive.The Highlander is the #1 mom-mobile in Rancho San Diego. I have seen three of them all parked next to each other in the grocery parking lot.
Some sharp large and semi-lux sedans that caught my eye on my commute:
Camry V6 TRD (301 HP!)
Hyundai Sonata Hybrid (starts at only 28k)
Mazda6 (discontinued last year, but looked really nice when I was at the dealer)
The Toyota Avalon is nicer inside than entry-level BMW/Lexus/Mercedes. I have been driven in them in Uber and the back seat is huge too.[/quote]
Nothing is more tacky than a riced out Toyota Camry .. if it walks like a dog, talks like a duck… It’s still a duck. If you’re going that route, Scaredy might as well put spinners wheels on his Honda Accord, cut his springs to lower it, put in major off camber to lower it more, and slap a bunch of Vtec stickers on it too.
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CoronitaParticipant[quote=gzz][quote=Coronita]Gzz, you know this is calling for you….
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I am not against a minivan, I learned to drive in one. But the Japanese ones are expensive now, and as you mention, there are minimal savings going used. Selection of used ones is very limited too.
The Odyssey starts at 39k after “fees” and before tax.
Sienna has zero in-stock inventory at my closest two dealers, and they appear to be marking them up 11k over MSRP, so they practically start at $54 before tax.[/quote]
Why are you restricting yourself to just san diego dealers? You’re not going to find a good deal unless you shop against LA dealers. That’s just a fact. Galpin Mazda for instance has some of the cheapest prices and they have much larger inventory. I always use their prices to price match down here (with former Hines Mazda and Mazda of El Cajon)….
Same could be said about Toyotas.
There’s Longo Toyota, Toyota of Orange, Cerritos Toyota. You don’t even need to talk to anyone in person, just do it all over email get a written OTD price over text or email, and then show up and pick it up. That’s it. That’s how I always bought my cars. Never in the showroom. Those salesman are sleesy. The internet sales guys do it based on volume so they get to the point.If you’re really lazy, you can try Costco auto buying program or maybe something like truecar, though you don’t get the best prices from truecar.
CoronitaParticipantThere’s like 35+ toyota dealers in north of us in LA county. I’ve pretty emailed all of them at one point.
And there’s plenty of sienna minivans. Might not be able to get below MSRP, but definitely shouldn’t be paying above it.
3 here:
https://www.southcoasttoyota.com/inventory/?model=sienna&type=new&ordering=display_price-asc7 here:
https://www.toyotaofglendale.com/new-inventory/index.htm?model=Sienna24 here:
https://www.keyestoyota.com/inventory/new-toyota-sienna/8 here:
https://www.toyotaoforange.com/inventory/?model=sienna&type=new&ordering=msrp-ascand so forth.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]I was thinking maybe it’s just status. Why am I driving this beat up old Honda given who I am. Discussed with my son. He said look, you’ve been driving an old silver Honda your entire life, maybe that’s who you are. My old civic was silver, and so is the accord.
He has a point. How much of wanting a new car is about a car, and how much about wanting to be or be perceived as someone else. Or imagining life will be different.
So I replaced the wiper blades. One was really thrashed. I think I can make it through the winter with this car. In the spring, I will rethink things.[/quote]
The joke my friends your “Asian-ness” of a family depends how many Toyota Camry’s or Honda Accords your family has. I had a friend that had 7 total Camrys. My best friend’s family had 6 Accords before he got rebellious and bought an Acura TL……His parents were like “why did did you waste money on a fancy label and leather”?
You have a great car. If it’s looking a little old, taking it to the body shop and getting it repainted. Or if you’re nice to me, I can experiment on your car after I’m done with my kids… Man I’m cheap…[img_assist|nid=27772|title=crackmobile|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=500|height=400]
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CoronitaParticipantYou are going through a delayed mid life crisis.
Get a McLaren. That will solve everything.
https://www.ogaracoachsandiego.com/new-inventory/mclaren.htm
Just….
$3,149 per month plus tax | 36 month closed-end lease | $19,999 down payment plus tax, title, license, registration, bank fee, first payment. | $28,828 total out of pocket cash or combination of cash and trade equity | Based on 2,500 miles per year ($2.75 excess mileage charge at lease end) | Based on Los Angeles County tax and license | On approved Tier 1 credit through McLaren Chase Auto | Offer expires November 30, 2022.
Oh shit. you missed the deal….
CoronitaParticipantGzz, you know this is calling for you….
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Hobie]So true SDR re grandparents and high entry vehicles. Minivans are perfect for that age plus the little kiddos. Good post. He is exactly on point as this is a real issue when (grand) parents get older.[/quote]
yeah my parents hate getting into my x5… But they hate getting into and out of miatas even more…
CoronitaParticipantThe other thing about minivans, particularly Siennas is that they don’t really depreciate that quickly.
I believe a Toyota Sienna depreciates about 23% after about 5 years of ownership.
Compare that with a BMW X5 that will depreciate 46% after 5 years of ownership.
Chrysler’s Pacifica depreciation is about 37% (non-hybrid version), not enough data on the hybrid version
And the Honda Odyssey is roughly 27% in 5 years.
If I could without adding a lot of money, I would trade in my X5 for a Toyota Sienna. Unfortunately, that 46%+ depreciation really hurts, lol. What I really want is an updated Toyota 4Runner or a Ford Raptor, but not the most econ friendly. Disappointed how the F150 electric turned out… that was interesting.
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