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October 1, 2007 at 6:54 AM in reply to: Give me La Jolla’s ultimate rock-bottom price/sq ft – and when #86532
CoronitaParticipantyou could also buy a home on the west side of nevada very cheap…Then wait for that big earthquake that will crater California into the ocean. Then you'll property will be ocean front. I predict this will happen by the year 4011.
September 27, 2007 at 8:13 AM in reply to: Fairbanks Ranch vs. Santaluz vs. Cielo vs. rest of Rancho Santa Fe #86078CoronitaParticipantRustico
What about Santee?
Rustico, that's not a bad idea. I hear it only 10 minutes away from La Jolla , and the schools rank in the 70% percentile. 🙂
CoronitaParticipantand the basis for this statement is ?……..
CoronitaParticipantLook little lady, with all due respect, I don't think I want to entertain this thread forward because we are getting really off topic here and I really don't want to use up anymore of Rich T's bandwidth/storage to go off a tangent here. You obviously have made up your mind on Santee. Good for you.
But, with all due respect,
If you have a kid, they aren't very old. Apples don't fall very far from the tree, and I can't always help my kids with their homework in math. My son's teacher said if he didn't have the book, he couldn't either. Because you just can't remember that far back/ everything. Also, It is much more complicated today, than it was in when you or I was in school.
Sorry, unless your kids here are doing calculus or even pre-calc, I can't relate one "can't remember" basic math that one tends to use on a regular basis. Math is math is math. Math hasn't changed. Same rules, same content, same questions. Trig is still trig, geometry is still geometry, algebra is still the same, and calculus is calculus. Differential eq, are just that, and derivatives haven't changed. The only thing that has changed is the teaching method. Considering I frequently run into cashiers that can't compute 10% off when the registers are down, any change in public education system for math would be good. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. Ask any person with techie background, and they'll tell you same problem, different details.
As far as your genius kids, if you can't solve the rate X time = distance question, ask them to solve it for you. They should be capable of doing all of the below.
If a person travels 15 miles in 1750 secs, how fast is the person going in mph?
If a person swims 15 laps in 14 minutes, how many laps in 23 minutes?
If a person can make 2 pizzas per 15 minutes, how long will it take for him/her to make 21 pizzas?
If Joe Pimp's employee can turn 4 tricks in 1 hour, and each trick is $125, how much does one of Joe's pimp's employee make in 4 hours.
If 1 gram of crack costs $442 how much would 1.5 grams of crack cost.
Don't need to post answers here, because I already know the answers 🙂
Also, if you think the Santee schools are so great, why are you shuttling them to La Jolla? I missed that.
CoronitaParticipantFLU
I can tell a couple of things from your post;
#1 YOU DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN
#2 you think schools are the same as when you were a kidThe schools we went to are not the same. Every year they get be
#1 wrong, #2 wrong.
No offense. You're really walking into this one. Some friendly advice, don't take things too personally here. I'm not going to sit and slash and burn Santee.
A couple of things
1) I'm aware of the SAT 9 test/ In fact, I sent a few sample SAT 9 tests to my cousin in china. She (entering junior high). It's still basic basic math skills (everything before pre-calc) which no offense by world standards is a joke. Look, I'm not trying to stir up anything here. But let's face it. Some of these standard tests at least in math/science, and in general math/science pre-college here in the U.S. pale in comparison to world standards. Things aren't that much different. Math is still math.
2) Your statement of #2 is wrong. Actually, I think don't think all public schools are the same. But, you reach a point when the margin of error is with the kid itself. My preference would be to raise a kid in a district when the average family is a white collar professional, because kids influence other kids. Call me an intellectual snob, but I won't send my kids to a school district composed of a lot of blue collar families. Also, I am not for attending private schools. Public schools teach a lot for kids, especially how to deal with different situations. I can't comment on the demographics of the education background of folks living in Santee. BUT, I definitely won't be sending my kids to an area where this happened. That's not something I would consider "normal learning experience":
http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Santee_High_California_Shooting03501.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_High_School
Although warped thinking could say that if you believe this was truely a random event, the probability of something like this happening in the same school would be lower then elsewhere… Except, more recently
http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2007/09/three_santee_schools_in_lockdo.html
No offense, I wouldn't want to take the following chance..Just like I won't fly Taiwan's China Airlines (Statistically, they broken all probability of random air disaster to the point that you wonder if the problem is with the airline itelf)
3) Your assumption about #1 is also wrong. I do have a kid. Yawn, I really need to learn how to get back to sleep after my kid wakes me up in the middle of the night.
4)It's interesting you equated "involved parents" to home schooling. This wasn't my understanding of involved parents meant. Involved parents in my mind meant being parents that had your kids attend public school, but supplemented the deficiencies in school. There will be a lot, regardless of which district you belong to.
5) Lastly, I can't help but help: Distance(in miles)/Time(hrs) = MPH
Or alternatively: Distance(in miles) *60 / Time (minutes) = MPH
"Showing your work": 15 miles in 10 minutes would mean traveling 90mph across 52.If you use 14.1 miles as you stated to cross 52, "10 minutes" would mean you're traveling 85mph across 52. The mathematical "fact" can't be disputed.
6) If you moved/bought in Santee. Don't let what other people say here make you feel bad. If you're happy with your decision, that's all that really matters. People say lots of crap about where I live on this board.Who cares?
CoronitaParticipantCare to share the property details?
CoronitaParticipantoh boy another genius this place is loaded with them.
too bad all your teachers thought you were an idiot. you should have went to better schools. i didnt realize if your teachers think your an idiot you can be labeled a geniusI wouldn't call anyone I met so far a genius (inclusive). The point I was trying to make…Very little correlation between what a teacher thinks a student can/can't do versus what a person can accomplish. And second, "average test scores" don't mean didly, because the average is so low to begin with. Some of these standardize tests, such as an SAT math is a joke. Teachers are just one of many data points. And considering that the average american stink at math, I take what a "teacher" says about someone's math skills with a grain of salt. As far as going to a 'better" schools. I went to a public school that was as good as it was going to get in california, short of private schools. Where I went, unfortunately, the student parking lot looked a lot nicer than the faculty, similar to what you would see in Torrey Pines HS, only much worse. Furthermore, I'm not convinced sending kids to private school really helps if parents aren't going to be involved. Several folks I knew went to public schools and ended up in Harvard,Stanford,Berkeley,Upenn,etc.
CoronitaParticipantNo trying to jab anyone here…But the mention of the honors student reminds me of a bumper sticker that makes me laugh every time i see it on a car. I don't know why I still get a big kick out of it.
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As far as test scores, and best schools. My personal experience in a public school suggests that those aptitude test scores really mean didly.
I mean being at the average school at any school isn't too impressive. It's like saying you are at the average income of some area. It's not going to help you into a top school. So who cares about averages. It's what the individual can/can't do.
That said, how great a teacher at a school is or isn't really has no/little impact on your kid if you have the ability/time/patience to teach your own kids. Case in point. I remember a math teacher that I had once. During Parent/teacher conference, the teacher told my mom that I "needed help", and that I shouldn't pursue an engineering degree because I wouldn't be capable. He cited that I lacked attention and understanding interest.
Well, actually the real reason was this "teacher" was a surfer dude that could barely speak proper engrish. I don't know how he possibly could have gotten a teaching credential, let alone be teaching honors math in junior high. I would clasify him as a beach bum if I saw him outside of class. And this was in an afluent public school. Anyway, I ended up graduating from high school 20th out of 978 students in a fairly competitive and afluent community, where others had far much financial backing…At least it was enough for me to get in to an ivy school. Also, I pretty much AP'ed out of my first two years in college science and math. And pretty much graduated with a top 5 percent out of my engineering class. I loved math and science, but skipped class every other time just so I could hang out with a girl that was studying to be a doctor. Tells you how useful those teachers really are.
Public school math/science teachers was a joke, even in the best public schools. The only reason why I did well was I had a smart and patient father and I enjoyed learning on my own.
CoronitaParticipantCritter,
You're not retarded. You're just mentally challenged. But not any less or more than me 🙂
Everyone's special, as special can be 🙂
CoronitaParticipantLatest news:
UAW strike may go to FORD too.
At this rate, there won't be a single U.S. automaker left. Or GM and Ford will get fed up and do what other industry have done. Move most of the work overseas or to Mexico.
Thank you UAW.
Good news. Pretty soon, you'll have even cheaper homes in the cities where UAW dominates. But then again, who wants to live in those cities.
http://www.wlky.com/news/14196518/detail.html
OUISVILLE. Ky. — Ford workers who belong to the United Auto Workers are on edge after the union called a national strike against GM Monday.
"If there's anything gonna happen, it will be in the next three days," Ford worker Brad Seward said.Local officials had confirmed that UAW negotiations with GM would serve as a blueprint for Ford's UAW contract, and a recent union vote favored a strike at local Ford plants as a last resort.Contract talks between the United Auto Workers and General Motors are scheduled to resume Tuesday morning. But, in the mean time, local union officials said Ford employees have been racing to the phones to find out if they will strike.Rumors started at the Kentucky Truck Plant and Louisville Assembly Plant that a workers there could strike within three days. Local 862 President Rocky Comito said the GM strike should have no effect on local Ford workers."The agreement with UAW and Ford is extend the contract indefinitely," Comito said. "However, if talks break down, we're going to give you a three day notice before we go out. So, people are thinking since GM went out automatically our clock started running."Some 73,000 union members who work at about 80 U.S. Facilities for the nation's largest automaker walked out of GM plants Monday.UAW officials said job security is the number one unresolved issue.The striking workers want GM to promise that future cars and trucks will be built at U.S. plants, preserving union jobs.It's the first nationwide strike against GM in 37 years. Ford, GM and Chrysler UAW workers have been without contracts for 10 days.
September 25, 2007 at 7:18 AM in reply to: Did this rate cut do anything to help the economy? #85798CoronitaParticipantSay hello to $4000/month rents. Just kidding.
The irony if that happens. On one hand, some folks have been jumping on folks spending $3500+/month on mortgages. How sad would this be if inflation gets this bad that that's how much renting a SFH will be.
CoronitaParticipantWow, I missed this thread and the party that's going on in here.
So far I learned,
Santee is drug invested. No wait it isn't.
America use to belong to Mexicans, but was taken by the gringos.
There was some concerns the Chinese would take over land in the U.S. and force people to speak mandarin (oh wait, but they sort of already are, and americans don't seem to mind). It takes somewhere between 10mins-1hr to drive from Santee to La Jolla.
The school system in Santee is decent. Oh wait, it's 70% percentile oh wait it's not. Test scores speak for themselves. Oh wait, the CA test scores are a joke. Oh wait they're not.
Wow. This thread struck a few nerves 🙂
CoronitaParticipantAnother GM article.
Famous quote:
Worker Anita Ahrens burst into tears as hundreds of employees streamed out of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis., just after the strike began at 11 a.m. EDT.
"Oh my God, here they come," said Ahrens, 39. "This is unreal."
Ahrens has seven years at the plant, where she works nights installing speakers in sport utility vehicles. She waited Monday for her husband, Ron Ahrens, who has worked there for 21 years.
The couple has three children, including a college freshman, and Ahrens worried about how they would pay their bills.
"This is horrible, but we're die-hard union, so we have to," Ahrens said. "We got a mortgage, two car payments and tons of freaking bills."
The striking workers will receive $200 a week plus medical benefits from the UAW's strike fund. The union had more than $800 million in that fund as of last November, according to the UAW's Web site.
Are you sh!tting me? You strike and you complain about not being to pay the bills? Oh wait, how about a government bailout for you????
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070924/auto_talks.html?.v=66
UAW Says Strike Is About Job Security
Monday September 24, 8:22 pm ET
By Tom Krisher and Dee-Ann Durbin, AP Auto WritersUAW Says National Strike Is About Job Security for Its Members
DETROIT (AP) — In the end, the first nationwide strike against General Motors Corp. in 37 years came because the United Auto Workers want something that GM will find difficult to promise: Job security.UAW officials said the 73,000 UAW members who work at about 80 U.S. facilities for the nation's largest automaker didn't strike Monday over what many thought would trip up the talks: A plan to shift the retiree health care burden from the company to the union. They said they also didn't strike over wages.
They said union members walked out because they want GM to promise that future cars and trucks such as the replacement for the Chevrolet Cobalt small car or the still-on-the-drawing board Chevrolet Volt plug-in electric car will be built at U.S. plants, preserving union jobs.
The strike puts GM, which is restructuring so it can better compete with Asian automakers, in a bind as some of its new products begin to catch on with consumers. But it also means workers are taking a big risk — giving up pay and slowing down GM in an uncertain economy.
"Job security is one of our primary concerns," UAW President Ron Gettelfinger told reporters Monday afternoon after talks broke off and the strike began. "We're talking about investment and we're talking about job creation" and preserving benefits, he said.
Talks resumed a short time later as sign-carrying picketers marched outside plant gates, but weary bargainers stopped to rest around 8 p.m. Talks were to resume Tuesday morning.
Worker Anita Ahrens burst into tears as hundreds of employees streamed out of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis., just after the strike began at 11 a.m. EDT.
"Oh my God, here they come," said Ahrens, 39. "This is unreal."
Ahrens has seven years at the plant, where she works nights installing speakers in sport utility vehicles. She waited Monday for her husband, Ron Ahrens, who has worked there for 21 years.
The couple has three children, including a college freshman, and Ahrens worried about how they would pay their bills.
"This is horrible, but we're die-hard union, so we have to," Ahrens said. "We got a mortgage, two car payments and tons of freaking bills."
The striking workers will receive $200 a week plus medical benefits from the UAW's strike fund. The union had more than $800 million in that fund as of last November, according to the UAW's Web site.
The UAW, Gettelfinger said, is willing to talk about taking money from the company to form a trust that would be responsible for billions of dollars in retiree health care costs.
GM wants the trust, called a Voluntary Employees Beneficiary Association, or VEBA, so it can move much of its $51 billion in unfunded retiree health care liabilities off the books, potentially raising the stock price and credit ratings. It's all part of the company's quest to cut or eliminate about a $25-per-hour labor cost disparity with its Japanese competitors.
"This strike is not about the VEBA in any way, shape or form," Gettelfinger said. "We were more than eager to discuss it," although he said no agreement had been reached.
Industry analysts said initially the strike would have little impact on consumers because GM has sufficient inventory stockpiled for most of its products.
But Monday afternoon, the Teamsters transportation union said its 10,000 automotive transport members would not cross UAW picket lines to deliver GM cars and trucks.
GM reported that it had just under 950,000 vehicles in its inventory at the end of August, about 35,000 below the same time last year.
Tom Libby, senior director of industry analysis for J.D. Power and Associates, said even a short strike could hurt the company because its new crossover vehicles, the Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook, are selling well and in short supply.
"The momentum they've established for those products would be interrupted if there's a supply interruption," Libby said. "There's not a lot of inventory available to sell down. So they need to keep that pipeline full."
Libby called the Enclave and Acadia a success story for GM because they don't stay on lots for long and they sell at or near full price.
"GM, financially, they don't have a lot of cushion," he said. "I just think it's going to hurt both sides in the long run."
GM had about a 65-day supply of cars and trucks as September began, versus a 71-day supply at the same time last year, said Paul Taylor, chief economist for the National Automobile Dealers Association. The Enclave, he said, is at a tight 24-day supply.
The strike will cost GM about 12,200 vehicles per day or 760 per hour, according to the auto forecasting firm CSM Worldwide of Northville.
If the walkout goes beyond 36 hours, CSM expects vehicle production in Canada to be affected because of a lack of U.S.-built engines and transmissions.
The walkout could further damage the image of the UAW, David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, said shortly before the strike began.
"What it says is the union is the same old militant organization," Cole said. "What is a real concern is buyers that punish a union by not buying the products they build."
Cole said the UAW leadership may need a strike to show members that it did all it could to get the best deal.
"They're in a bit of a box, in that they need some drama to get an affirmative vote on this," he said.
GM likely has threatened to pull investments out of the U.S. if the union does not agree to its terms, he said.
Gettelfinger, in his post-walkout news conference, said the union has done a lot to help the struggling GM, including health care givebacks in 2005. But during the weekend, he said GM's stance hardened.
"It was going to be General Motors' way at the expense of the workers," Gettelfinger said. "The company walked right up to the deadline like they really didn't care."
Gettelfinger said the union didn't want to strike.
"Who wins in a strike? But again, you can be pushed off a cliff, and that's what we feel like happened here," he said.
GM spokesman Dan Flores said the automaker was disappointed in the union's decision.
"The bargaining involves complex, difficult issues that affect the job security of our U.S. work force and the long-term viability of the company," he said. "We remain fully committed to working with the UAW to develop solutions together to address the competitive challenges facing GM."
GM shares fell 20 cents to $34.74 in trading Monday.
The last national strike against GM was in 1970 and lasted 69 days.
An agreement between GM and the UAW would become the pattern for pacts with Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC.
The negotiations come at a difficult time for both the automakers and the union. Detroit's automakers lost a collective $15 billion last year.
The union also is feeling pressure. UAW membership has fallen from a high of 1.5 million active members in 1979 to around 576,000 today.
Associated Press Writer Ryan J. Foley in Janesville, Wis., contributed to this report.
CoronitaParticipantGM… like many big boys they want cheap labor and farm out…
you end up with cheap product…I'd love to see the workers cut GM's legs out fromn under them…
they should continue w/ Euro influenced design… if they survive…
I would say GM's U.S. labor costs are way too high. Too much union fluff and red tape. I wish GM would just source the cars from GM europe and import the entire damn products. They would be better cars, use less crappy labor here.
The current cars are not "european" influenced designs. These "designs" are actually the european opel brand, rebranded as U.S. makes. Hence why saturn is doing well these days. (most new saturns are from the opel platform). There was talk about redoing buick's line by pinning the design team from Shanghai with the one from the U.S., since the shanghai design team seems to have better styling.
Don't understand the striking logic. Workers strike, company goes bankrupt, labor contracts undone, people lose jobs.
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