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September 22, 2007 at 7:58 PM #10380
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September 22, 2007 at 8:22 PM #85595
larrylujack
ParticipantSantee, smoking crack?
hard to imagine, but then again many think 4s is super.
have a link to the crack homes in question?
just curious, I’m in escrow with a house and I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
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September 23, 2007 at 7:38 AM #85600
mixxalot
ParticipantSantee does have a lot of drugs like El Cajon and La Mesa
Based on police reports and what I hear. Plus its far from San Diego so it amazes me that builders want a lot for these homes.
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September 23, 2007 at 4:10 PM #85631
Ex-SD
ParticipantI have never understood why anyone would pay more than $200k for any of the homes in Santee.
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September 23, 2007 at 4:35 PM #85635
farbet
ParticipantIts the Mission Possible hype.I am sure it’s a bust
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September 23, 2007 at 4:54 PM #85636
mixxalot
ParticipantBuilder Hyper to Bust?
I hope so. In light that prices are inflated beyond reason. No point in living 30-40 miles from the nice parts of San Diego. I betcha the commute on the 52 from Santee is an absolute nightmare.
I will do a 2 year test. If prices crash in beach part of San Diego then I stay. Else I move to another state where I can afford a 2000 square foot single family home.
2010 will be an interesting year!!!
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September 23, 2007 at 7:59 PM #85642
little lady
ParticipantAs a matter of fact I live in Santee, and grew up here. Your perceptions are somewhat delusional. As everywhere there are drugs in Santee. However, Santee boasts one of the lowest crimerates in San diego county. We also have above average schools..
“No point in living 30-40 miles from the nice parts of San Diego. I betcha the commute on the 52 from Santee is an absolute nightmare. ”
NOPE, not really, there is traffic but it keeps moving.
The commute to downtown is like 20 minutes. La Jolla is 10 minutes. You don’t live here and you don’t have a clue to what you are talking about.
It’s desert hot, 2 months out of the year. It sucks! (You have to have air conditioning, and a pool.)
No place is perfect. For the money, it is in my opinion the best buy in the county. Good schools, safe neighborhoods, nice homes, short commute.)
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September 23, 2007 at 8:05 PM #85643
little lady
Participant“Its the Mission Possible hype.I am sure it’s a bust”
Actually, they’re selling pretty well, most people feel differently.
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September 23, 2007 at 8:49 PM #85645
larrylujack
ParticipantAs a matter of fact I live in Santee, and grew up here. Your perceptions are somewhat delusional. As everywhere there are drugs in Santee
ok, I’ll take yer word for it, but the school scores suck and I been there. It’s mostly like clairmont, a dump essentially, but if you think that is quality living, then fine. Bottom line is not too many people rushing to buy in Santeee-No??
glad you like it, stay there.
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September 23, 2007 at 10:04 PM #85648
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI go to Santee for business. Santee is not 10 minutes to La Jolla. First you drive about 15 minutes on crowded Mission Gorge and then you have to drive about 25 minutes the whole length of 52 to the west.
The afternoon into Santee from San Diego is a nightmare. I drove it a couple of time and I won’t do it again.
The Santee Town Center does have all the big box stores and the last stop on the trolley line. But the trolley is so slow that if you think you can commute to Downtown on the trolley, you’re sadly mistaken.
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September 23, 2007 at 10:27 PM #85650
Anonymous
GuestThe only way Santee is 10 minutes from La Jolla is by helicopter.
A co-worker was bragging about how great a deal their son got on a new place, good view, low 500s and all the upgrades. Then I asked them where it was, and they said Santee. I had to bite my tongue. I mean holy christ, how could any sane person pay 500K for a place in Santee?
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September 23, 2007 at 11:39 PM #85647
little lady
Participant“ok, I’ll take yer word for it, but the school scores suck and I been there”
You do not know what you are talking about. They are very good to very high. Average in the 70 percentile range. Most students test at above the 50 percentile.
The area is infact being upgraded ALL the time. We have LOTS of new construction. All of our elementary schools are going to undergo a make over and upgrading.
You have NOT looked at the test scores.
I will stay and hopefully YOU will stay away.
Of course “YOU CANNOT AFFORD”……..LOL
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September 23, 2007 at 11:57 PM #85656
little lady
Participant"The only way Santee is 10 minutes from La Jolla is by helicopter"
IT IS 10 minutes from my house to the end of 52 frwy, which ends in La Jolla.
I never drive down Mission Gorge to even go that way , you don’t have to when you live right off the freeway, you don’t know what you are talking about.
I drive it every summer to take my kids to the beach, sorry. It is not 10 minutes from every part. Just from one end of 52 to the other.
Every place has roads with lots of traffic, that will make a commute longer. "The afternoon into Santee from San Diego is a nightmare.
“I drove it a couple of time and I won't do it again.” "
Good stay away, rush hour traffic sucks. It is worse in the city.
“A co-worker was bragging about how great a deal their son got on a new place, good view, low 500s and all the upgrades”
We love our community, as I am sure you love yours. It is a great place to raise kids. We have a high percentage of military. It is a middle to upper middle class so folks tend to feel it is a good deal. I tends to be less expensive than the coastal areas. It’s fairly centrally located. I really think all the new communities are nice, but 500k anywhere is over inflated.
Listen if you don’t want to live here or come here that’s great.
People here like it, you like where you live,
BUT I WOULDN’T.
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September 24, 2007 at 12:29 AM #85658
little lady
ParticipantGood schools
Distance from Santee on Mapquest:
Total Est. Distance: 19.17 miles
Across the 52 freeway is 14 miles, unless you drive 20mph on the freeway it DOES NOT TAKE 25 minutes! I drive 65, so it takes 10 minutes.
You NEED to bring DATA!
Local Demographics
Primarily
Middle to Upper Middle classhttp://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=3
Low crime rates
From wikpedia,
AND I QUOTE “Santee has one of the lowest crime rates in the County and the city also prides itself on having a stable local economy, well-maintained streets and infrastructure, and family-based neighborhoods.” -
September 24, 2007 at 5:11 AM #85663
mixxalot
ParticipantStandard Pacific new homes in Santee
Are still way way overpriced.
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September 24, 2007 at 7:40 AM #85671
little lady
ParticipantABSOLUTELY! AND I bet they even came down!
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September 24, 2007 at 9:18 AM #85682
luxuryglow
Participantlittle lady,
you grew up and still living in Santee? WOW!… -
September 24, 2007 at 9:20 AM #85683
patientlywaiting
ParticipantLittle Lady, 20 miles at 65mph is 18.51 minutes. That’s if you never slow down or stop.
25 minutes is generous. Plus you have to nagivate the La Jolla traffic to get to the beach.
Like I said, I go to Santee for business and it’s a good place — generic and very middle class America. Mission Gorge is the kind of main street that you’d find in almost every newer town in America. Nothing wrong with that.
I don’t think the level of college education of the Santee population is very high. Let’s not even talk advance degree. Santee is mostly trade workers, military, et al. White or off-white population that is Republican and anti-immigrant but don’t hesitate to employ the Mexicans on their landscape projects. If that’s what you like, then all the better for you.
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September 24, 2007 at 9:30 AM #85685
Raybyrnes
ParticipantLittle Lady
Way too strong of Confirmation Bias that this area is great. People are definitely being generous on commute times. It is tainting your ability to constructively argue your points.
Sounds like you are simply going to defend the area to the very death. I think patientlywaiting has captured my image of Santee fairly well.
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September 24, 2007 at 9:36 AM #85686
farbet
ParticipantLittle lady Go live in Santee please. Another area where Mission Impossible is Venzano in San Elijio Hills
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September 24, 2007 at 12:14 AM #85655
little lady
Participantoops
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September 24, 2007 at 2:52 PM #85729
waitingpatiently
ParticipantSince when is the 70th percentile “very good to very high”?
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September 24, 2007 at 4:38 PM #85740
Critter
ParticipantThe (little) lady doth protest too much.
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October 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM #612817
faterikcartman
Participant[quote=larrylujack] I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
tanks>>>[/quote]Just saw this post and wanted to acknowledge that it is pretty darn funny.
I hear you can spot the Amish in Santee as they’re the ones with the old horses out on blocks in the front yard. (The Amish don’t get teased nearly as much as the rest of us!)
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October 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM #612904
faterikcartman
Participant[quote=larrylujack] I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
tanks>>>[/quote]Just saw this post and wanted to acknowledge that it is pretty darn funny.
I hear you can spot the Amish in Santee as they’re the ones with the old horses out on blocks in the front yard. (The Amish don’t get teased nearly as much as the rest of us!)
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October 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM #613455
faterikcartman
Participant[quote=larrylujack] I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
tanks>>>[/quote]Just saw this post and wanted to acknowledge that it is pretty darn funny.
I hear you can spot the Amish in Santee as they’re the ones with the old horses out on blocks in the front yard. (The Amish don’t get teased nearly as much as the rest of us!)
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October 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM #613573
faterikcartman
Participant[quote=larrylujack] I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
tanks>>>[/quote]Just saw this post and wanted to acknowledge that it is pretty darn funny.
I hear you can spot the Amish in Santee as they’re the ones with the old horses out on blocks in the front yard. (The Amish don’t get teased nearly as much as the rest of us!)
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October 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM #613887
faterikcartman
Participant[quote=larrylujack] I may reconsider if the crack homes are nice with a two car limit in the front yard.
tanks>>>[/quote]Just saw this post and wanted to acknowledge that it is pretty darn funny.
I hear you can spot the Amish in Santee as they’re the ones with the old horses out on blocks in the front yard. (The Amish don’t get teased nearly as much as the rest of us!)
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September 24, 2007 at 10:58 AM #85697
losgatos200
ParticipantSantee is a dump, loaded up with a lot of illegals and migrant bums with a generous srinking of white trash. Kids are mostly out of control and obnoxious.
I wouldn’t live there if the house came free.
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September 24, 2007 at 11:21 AM #85698
bsrsharma
ParticipantSame City?
…it's a good place — generic and very middle class America. Mission Gorge is the kind of main street that you'd find in almost every newer town in America. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think the level of college education of the Santee population is very high. Let's not even talk advance degree. Santee is mostly trade workers, military, et al. White or off-white population that is Republican and anti-immigrant but don't hesitate to employ the Mexicans on their landscape projects.
 Santee is a dump, loaded up with a lot of illegals and migrant bums with a generous srinking of white trash. Kids are mostly out of control and obnoxious. I wouldn't live there if the house came free.
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September 24, 2007 at 2:30 PM #85722
little lady
ParticipantI could care less if you like it, but FACTS ARE FACTS.
You keep making false statements about things you know obviously nothing about.
I put out the data, but apparently you can not understand it.
Never come here, it would make my life a lot easier. However, commenting on traffic,crime, commute times, schools, levels of income and education, when you are to ignorant to get that facts makes you look ridiculous.
By the way, to whomever it was that was misguided enough to mention that I was trying to make people believe it was a great place to live,
TO ME IT IS, I don’t care what dumpy neighborhood’s you all hail from. But that facts are we have good schools, low crime,and nice family neighborhoods. At better prices than the coastal areas.
By the way, you aren’t catching any folks out here bashing the coastal areas, with its shitty schools, massive traffic problems, gangs, crime, graffiti, bums and neighborhoods where your kids can’t even play outside.
Read the demographics, if you can……
http://www.bestplaces.net/zip-code/Santee_CA-79207100071.aspx“little lady,
you grew up and still living in Santee? WOW!…”How old are you 5?
“Little lady Go live in Santee please”
What planet are you on? I said I live there.
Raybyrnes
I could care less what you think. I am correcting the inacurate comments. I agree with her discription as well, to me it seems better though. I have a problem with people claiming things that are incorrect. Like the school test scores being low for one. It’s not true. Do I want more people to come? No.
I disagree to her, you and others about the commute time. We have traffic, but to the majority of San Diego it has relatively short commutes. When there is traffic congestion, which is FAR worse in most other parts of the county, especially coastal.
Go pic on Mira Mesa, look how many people live in that hell hole!
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September 24, 2007 at 2:43 PM #85727
Anonymous
GuestAllright, enoough Santee bashing. Although I personally woudn’t choose to buy a house in Santee, I agree with littlelady that it certainly isn’t the worst place to live. Given the choice, I might also choose it over Mira Mesa.
The main problem is with the cost of new houses in Santee. Santee is historically a relatively lower income, lower housing cost part of town. Right or wrong this stigma is not going away. For that reason overpaying for a house there is an unwise investment.
However, Santee is nothing compared to ChulaJuana. If you want to talk about historically stimatized areas with overpriced tract homes, ChulaJuana takes the cake, especially Otay area. Also the commute from Santee to SD is nothing compared to Otay/Eastlake.
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September 24, 2007 at 2:47 PM #85728
Wickedheart
ParticipantFor someone who could care less you’re getting awful riled up about it.
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September 24, 2007 at 5:19 PM #85745
Raybyrnes
ParticipantYou say facts are facts. How do you make the claim of 20 miles in 10 minutes and purport that to be a fact. I don’t know about you but the average person does not drive 120 mph.
I wasn’t negative or disparaging of the area. I thought one of the other posters was fairly on track with the description of it being a fairly middle class blue collar area.
I think the biggest thing that people are calling you out on is a longer commute than the 10 minutes.
Additionally don’t through around comments like facts are facts adn then try to say that is my opinion. Yor are contradicting yourself.
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September 24, 2007 at 5:22 PM #85746
losgatos200
ParticipantMaybe you would like to live next door to a house with
4 Mexican families living in one unit with 13 noisy kids and
6 junk cars around all the time.Think this would be a good investment, too ?
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September 24, 2007 at 5:46 PM #85748
little lady
Participant“Since when is the 70th percentile “very good to very high”?”
You obviously don’t have children, so I will explain it to you much the way my son’s preschool teacher explained it to me.
I have 3 children by the way 1 above average, 1 gifted, the 3rd may be gifted as well, but is too young for testing.
Children who score above the 70 percentile are considered to be scoring in an above average area.
If you line up 100 chilren, that child will do better than 70 of his peers, that is above the average.
Some, NOT All, read carefully now, have the average scores in that area.
The API is a good way to tell if a school is reaching it’s academic progress for the year. Schools are ranked 1 to 10. 5 being AVERAGE, “most” Santee schools are ranked 8, an above average score.
May be that will clear somethings up for you since you seem not to know very much about anything.
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September 24, 2007 at 5:50 PM #85750
lendingbubblecontinues
ParticipantEver see those ads for high-priced jewelry stores listing their worldwide locations?
Can you imagine this one?:
New York, Paris, Tokyo, Jerusalem, Santee
😉
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September 24, 2007 at 5:58 PM #85751
little lady
Participantdeadzone
Thanks, I don’t like being the only one…….these folks need a reality check……..thanks again
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September 24, 2007 at 6:02 PM #85753
Critter
ParticipantInteresting grammatical, syntax and spelling errors on this thread…
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September 24, 2007 at 6:05 PM #85755
little lady
Participant“haha, do you know of any parents who don’t think their children are “gifted”.
I do NOT think my child is gifted,
HE IS A GENIUS and has been tested to prove it.
He has a certification on file at the school district.
He is certified GIFTED.
I am sorry YOU are retarded. Nuff said. I am not feeding this troll anymore.
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September 24, 2007 at 6:10 PM #85756
farbet
ParticipantI am thinking of buying 4 or 5 shacks in San Ysidro. Tearing them down and build a MAC Mansion.
Talk about cultural diversity.
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September 24, 2007 at 7:03 PM #85759
lendingbubblecontinues
ParticipantThis has got to be one of the funniest threads I’ve ever seen!
Which department at the district handles all the “genius certification filings”;)? Or, perhaps, the file it wound up in was the “circular file”.
Trust me…I am a certified “near-genius” and being a genius ain’t what it used to be. There was a genius scoring bubble in the last few years.
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September 24, 2007 at 6:13 PM #85752
patientlywaiting
Participanthaha, do you know of any parents who don’t think their children are “gifted”?
Sorry but I think Mira Mesa is much superior to Santee on several counts.
1) Weather. Doesn’t everyone cite weather in SD?
2) Proximity to employement centers (Qualcomm, etc..) and UCSD and Sorrento Valley, La Jolla, Del Mar.
3) Geography. MM is on a mesa with views down canyons. Santee in a bowl surrounded by mountains hence the heat and pollution in the summer.
4) Location. MM is more centrally located off the 805, 5 and 15. West of 15 is better than east of 15, IMO.
5) Food. MM has better restaurants such as the Brasserie Wine Cellar, Karl Strauss, Japanese, Thai, etc..
6) Housing. The north side of MM with views down Los Penasquitos is much better. There are million dollar architect designed houses on Shaw Lopez, a little gem street in a sea of tract houses.
5) Recreation. Hiking, horse back riding, biking in Los Penasquitos Canyon Reserve.I’m in Mira Mesa and Santee for work frequently. And I prefer MM by far.
I have to say that the drive into Santee is pretty on a foggy morning. Driving into Santee feels like you’re going a long way into a different county because there are no developments past Santo Rd. Then as you come down mountain into Santee, you can see the sun rising in the east and burning off the fog. I think of Santee as the Emerald City (Wizard of Oz).
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September 24, 2007 at 6:44 PM #85758
drunkle
Participantthe original post commented on how overpriced he thought standard pacific’s project in santee was… not as if the rest of sd county is not overpriced…
yes. santee is overpriced. for the money, it sucks. if prices in santee were realistic, it would then be a trade off, price for value; it’s better than city/logan heights, it’s worse than carlsbad.
santee is by no means shangri la, geez.
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September 24, 2007 at 5:48 PM #85749
little lady
Participant“Since when is the 70th percentile “very good to very high”?”
You obviously don’t have children, so I will explain it to you much the way my son’s preschool teacher explained it to me.
I have 3 children by the way 1 above average, 1 gifted, the 3rd may be gifted as well, but is too young for testing.
Children who score above the 70 percentile are considered to be scoring in an above average area.
If you line up 100 chilren, that child will do better than 70, that is above the average.
My gifted child gets 90’s to the 100 percentile scores. Most children cannot achieve that, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE A GENIUS,his IQ is over 130, he got a 99+(perfect score) on the RAVEN test(that’s a giftedness test, I am sure you didn’t know that either because you are so knowledgable.).
Therefore it is impossible to think that that would be like grading a paper like 90% is an “A”.
Some, NOT All, read carefully now, have the average scores in that area.
The API is a good way to tell if a school is reaching it’s academic progress for the year. Schools are ranked 1 to 10. 5 being AVERAGE, “most” Santee schools are ranked 8, an above average score.
May be that will clear somethings up for you since you seem not to know very much about anything.
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September 24, 2007 at 7:14 PM #85761
VoZangre
ParticipantThis thread had me laughing aloud…
test-score crazed soccer mom driving 120 mph to La Jolla to enroll her genius in a private school…
anti-Mexican racism in what was once Mexico, land taken by the bizarre divine-right argument of westward expansion at the extinction of native peoples…
( he who is sick
of being sick
is not sick… Lao Tsu)jajajajaja!
($500k in Santee is indeed a steep overprice…)
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September 24, 2007 at 7:38 PM #85764
losgatos200
Participantwho wants to live in Mexican slum with a bunch of alkies and druggies for $500K ?
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September 24, 2007 at 8:12 PM #85769
Anonymous
Guestgatos, are you implying that Santee is full of Mexican slums? Santee always seemed like a mostly white middle-class area to me. But I haven’t been around there in a while so who knows.
Frankly, if you want to criticize an area for being full of Mexican slums, druggies and alkies you could be describing nearly any community in Socal. For example, PB certainly fits into that category as well and it is much more expensive than Santee.
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September 24, 2007 at 11:07 PM #85786
little lady
ParticipantDeadzone:
I have figured out that these people are not the normal folks around hear with a viable opinion about the subjects we discuss.
It is just “feeding the trolls” when you respond to their nonsense.
I mean really, all they are doing is bashing, what does that help?
It is awful to think that a place where I thought there were intelligent people commenting on realestate, is a place where they just insult people of color.
It is a shame. It is just a place where people can try to feel better by throwing out any old nonsense (like the guy that can’t spell but claims to be a genius, doesn’t know the school district could possibly have your test scores,and information for funding and so forth-certified lunatic is more like it)just to have a jab at someone that they don’t know.
By the way my bestfriend is half mexican, and though she has lived a long time in Santee, apparently she is in the minority…….
demographics
http://www.bestplaces.net/zip-code/Santee_CA-79207100010.aspx
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September 24, 2007 at 7:57 PM #85767
rube
ParticipantI’ve never been to Santee. Santee sucks. Mexican geniuses everywhere. people drive too fast in Santee.
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September 24, 2007 at 10:40 PM #85785
VoZangre
ParticipantBeing half Mexican this anti-Mexican slant in what was once Mexico is quite distasteful…
how gringo racist can y’all be?
Perhaps you’d like to re-institute lynchings?
Start in Old Town and eat churros while you take picture postcards for your grankids…cago en la memoria de tus abuelitas…
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September 24, 2007 at 10:51 PM #85787
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantThose 25 years of Mexican control of this area are hardly significant.
Not that I support anti-Mexican talk, just saying this place hardly even had a chance to truly become part of Mexico. Hell there were disputes that entire time they had control. Judging by how shitty they have managed the rest of the Mexico, the hombres who stayed here made a wise decision.
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September 24, 2007 at 10:53 PM #85788
Anonymous
GuestNot to defend gatos’ seemingly anti-Mexican overtones, but who gives a shit whether this land used to belong Mexico? Before that it was Native American land, and before that it belonged to the Bison. So what? Like it or not Santee is currently in the U.S.A.
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September 24, 2007 at 11:04 PM #85790
VoZangre
Participant” Who cares.” typical gringo…
So…hypothetically, you’d not feel wronged if say, China took over and this became Chinese territory? Your family and history would not rebel against the injustice of it? While they said ” Who cares if this used to be USA ” (In Mandarin)
I’m sure you could be doing better things now than actually having a historical conscience… like, say, shopping for a wide screen telly.
ps- I surely shant defend the Mexican style of “management”… its strangely sad and none too effective…
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September 24, 2007 at 11:32 PM #85792
NotCranky
ParticipantVozangre,
Mucho puedes hacer para Mexico o Los Mexicanos sin hacerte el estupido aca en la red. Has hecho algo? No? Eres un pinchi mal criado, sin verguenza, inutil.Vete al la fregada!Asi te gusta pendejo mal hablado? Ahora donde vas a cagar idiota? -
September 24, 2007 at 11:36 PM #85793
Anonymous
GuestI go fishing in Santee, it seems like a nice place to me. Not a lot of mexican slums, anywaay
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September 25, 2007 at 5:52 AM #85796
Bugs
ParticipantThis is the weirdest thread I’ve seen here in a while.
Santee isn’t a bad town and I don’t know why it’s taking a beating. The crime rate out there is more or less like all of the El Cajon valley, which itself is like other regions: Oceanside/Vista, Escondido/San Marcos, Chula Vista/National City.
Yeah, the weather’s hot, but it’s no worse in Santee than anywhere else along the I-15 corridor, like Poway, Escondido, Fallbrook and points north.
There’s almost as much employment in the El Cajon area as there is in northern SD. Sure, it’s not biotech but then again most businesses aren’t biotech.
I can well imagine Santee being a better location for commuting for some people than northern SD county – it depends on where the job is. Santee is a lot more central to employment than Temecula is.
As for schools, well that’s what you make of it. I think parental involvement is a lot more meaningful to a kids education than test scores or how homogenous the population is. The schools always seem to offer the bright kids all the opportunities they need to thrive. Not paying the extra $300k it takes to live in Carlsbad or Torrey Pines probably makes it a lot easier to pay for a private school that’s tons better than those school districts.
Seriously, not everyone has to be the cool edgy hip urban type and shoot for the prestige address. It’s okay to like
Downtown or North Park or Mira Mesa or Spring Valley or Chula Vista. If I didn’t surf I could do okay in Temecula or Murietta. Or Santee. Just don’t make me move to Carmel Valley or 4s.
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September 25, 2007 at 7:14 AM #85797
Coronita
ParticipantWow, I missed this thread and the party that's going on in here.
So far I learned,
Santee is drug invested. No wait it isn't.
America use to belong to Mexicans, but was taken by the gringos.
There was some concerns the Chinese would take over land in the U.S. and force people to speak mandarin (oh wait, but they sort of already are, and americans don't seem to mind). It takes somewhere between 10mins-1hr to drive from Santee to La Jolla.
The school system in Santee is decent. Oh wait, it's 70% percentile oh wait it's not. Test scores speak for themselves. Oh wait, the CA test scores are a joke. Oh wait they're not.
 Wow. This thread struck a few nerves 🙂
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September 25, 2007 at 7:27 AM #85800
Critter
ParticipantAnd, if you are not gifted, you are retarded.
And, if you disagree with anything pro-Santee, you do not know anything (s).
One thing we can all agree on (MAYBE):
The vitriol and name-calling takes away from the discussion. State the facts and leave what you think of people’s intelligence / nationality out of it if you want credibility.
Just my 2 cents, please don’t tell me I am retarded.
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September 25, 2007 at 7:32 AM #85802
Coronita
ParticipantCritter,
You're not retarded. You're just mentally challenged. But not any less or more than me 🙂
Everyone's special, as special can be 🙂
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September 25, 2007 at 7:35 AM #85804
Critter
ParticipantF_L_U….
Thanks! That means a lot, coming from someone as gifted as you. Now if only I could figure out what your name means!
Back to being “at risk,”
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September 25, 2007 at 9:17 AM #85816
little lady
Participant“And, if you are not gifted, you are retarded.
And, if you disagree with anything pro-Santee, you do not know anything (s). ”
That is utter nonsense. No one said that. Maybe you should read it again.
What happened was there were several people on here making statements that were blatantly incorrect.
If you are going to say that the test scores suck, then you should know what you are talking about.
IT’S IGNORANT.
Base your comments in fact not on what you feel you think is right.
I could care less if anyone likes Santee or wants to come here. I won’t allow people to make statements that are false go unanswered, when the “DATA” is there to support the truth.
I don’t care if you disagree, FACTS ARE FACTS. I never said it was Shangrila, I said IMO, it is the best deal for the money, and a GREAT place to raise a family.I am not alone in thinking that.
Everyone jumped on me. I was not attacking anyone’s ideas, just the untruth.
“The crime rate out there is more or less like all of the El Cajon valley, ”
Bugs
I completely agree, except that El Cajon actually has ALOT more crime than Santee. It’s a big city. Santee is more of a bedroom community,though it is a city. It has one of the lowest crimerates in the whole county.
From wikpedia,
AND I QUOTE “Santee has one of the lowest crime rates in the County and the city also prides itself on having a stable local economy, well-maintained streets and infrastructure, and family-based neighborhoods.” -
September 25, 2007 at 10:02 AM #85821
(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantMath API quiz :
1. If you leave Santee at 8:00 am traveling west at 65 MPH, what time will you arrive in La Jolla 20 miles away ?
a. 8:10 am
b. 8:10 am
c. 8:10 am
d. All of the Above2. Rank in order according to the number of years that the following tribes/countries that ruled Southern California over the past 700 Years:
a. Chumash, Kuymeyaay, Cahuilla, and Tongya tribes
b. Spain
c. Mexico
d. United States of America3. True or False:
The Majority of people taking a test fall above the 70th Percentile.Answers :
1. B.
2. A, B, D, C
The various native tribes ruled until approximately 1600 (unknown # of years) The Spanish from the 1600’s through 1821 (About 200 years) and the USA from 1848-present (159 years), Mexico from 1821-1846 (25 years).
Note: Mexico actually acquired the state for 25 years as the result of Spanish colonists stealing the area from the natives in the first place.It is currently officially ruled by its inhabitants through what is known as a Democracy. It’s inhabitants include primarily those who descended from European, North American, South American, Asian, and African descent, as well as every combination thereof.
3. Either answer is acceptable, as long as you feel good about it.
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September 25, 2007 at 10:24 AM #85824
Ex-SD
ParticipantWikpedia subjects can be composed and edited by about a zillion people so whomever wrote that propaganda about Santee in Wikipedia had a self-serving agenda.
Anyone who has ever lived in San Diego knows that Santee is a crap hole. Nobody who is truly financially successful aspires to live there. Santee is not on the desirable list of places to visit when tourists are vacationing in San Diego and the locals who live in the better areas of San Diego go out of their way to avoid even driving through Santee. There are NO high end restaurants in Santee. No business that offers high end goods is located in Santee. Many long-term San Diegans refer to Santee as “The Redneck Riviera”. Those are the facts.I’m not quite sure why you posted that your child was a genius on this forum but if your child truly tested well, that simply indicates that they have the ability to learn and formulate a little easier than many other people. It is not a free pass for prosperity for the child and if you make a big deal about it with your child, chances are that they will develop a complex which will cause them to have more problems than good due to having a high “I.Q.”. If you would quit getting so emotional & get off of this ridiculous, “Santee is wonderful” kick……..people would stop making fun of your posts.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:39 AM #85835
patientlywaiting
ParticipantYeah Little Lady is a little emotional about her city and her children.
Like I said, Santee is a good middle America place. I go there frequently and I don’t think there are too many Mexicans immigrants there.
Santee is mostly white and off-white non-college degreed population of auto body men, mechanics, military and ex-military, construction workers and their wives. Solid trades people who “made it” in part thanks to the real estate bubble. The construction contractors prospered because of real estate and all houses appreciated during the boom.
Mission Gorge is full of body shops and auto shops. Phil Thearle is a body man who now has a huge building where the 52 meets Mission Gorge Rd. He’s very successful and does a lot of insurance work. I’m sure he no longer lives in Santee or El Cajon.
The people are not pretentious. They are the alright types who are generally patriotic and god fearing. In Santee I see a lot of “In Loving Memory of John Doe” on people’s vehicles. Straight forward in their thinking and manners, they don’t really like the new immigrants but if you marry into their families or become their friends, you’ll be warmly accepted. Many white men have Hispanic wives. I think there is a drug and alcohol element. Afterall, hardworking men need some relaxation time.
People there tend to let things hang out. So when you go to restaurants, you can see children running around having fun. The manners are not most refined but the emotions are genuine.
Santee started changing about 10 years ago with the 52 connecting the city to San Diego. Corporate encroachment and rising real estate values are turning Mission Gorge Rd into Big Box shopping district. The old bars and bowling alleys are making way for national chain stores. The Hartford has a big presence. They are building a business park along the river.
Slowly Santee is being cleaned up into sterile suburb.
Interestingly, there’s a huge buddhist temple in Santee. I heard they located there years ago because of the cheap land or perhaps thanks to to a donation.
Overall, Santee is alright and upright. Much more preferable to Temecula in my view. When the 52 is completed, Santee will be in the middle of a growing metropolitan area. It will have all the Big Box stores and Costco to grow its tax base. Standard Pacific and Lennar have huge development plans for Santee so the future is bright. Skyranch Living promises hilltop Mc Mansions with views down the valley.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:40 AM #85833
little lady
ParticipantYou didn’t understand what was written. You need to re-read the post and stop being so emotional yourself.
It is YOUR opinion that it is not what you like.
IN MY OPINION (and 50,000 plus others) it’s GREAT.
They are building alot of new housing here, people keep buying them. They are touting our schools as “award winning”.My son’s IQ was NOT what I was concerned about. RE-READ it, it was a comparison. The children with normal IQ’s test well here, because the schools are good. You can’t expect kids with normal IQ’s to test in the 90% plus range. 70% average scores are good.
SAN DEIGO city schools/system is shit.
California may have poor test scores, but, that number is influenced by the amount of english learners in the state. The SAT 9 test has an area of where children place in rank with children across the United States. If your child does well on the SAT 9, he does well when compared to the rest of the country.
“Nobody who is truly financially successful aspires to live there.”
THAT IS SUCH A ridiculous statement that YOU know what EVERYONE want’s!Tell that to the Doctor I know who lives in Black Horse Estates, or the many miltary(officer) families who buy the high end homes we have.
PLEASE don’t switch my wording around to conclude all the people in Santee are millionaires-THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
We do however, have doctors, lawyers, and other people that make a good living.
.” If you leave Santee at 8:00 am traveling west at 65 MPH, what time will you arrive in La Jolla 20 miles away ? ”
According to mapquest it is 14.1 miles across 52, not a long drive. CERTAINLY less than 25 minutes.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:50 AM #85837
Artifact
ParticipantI have spent some time in and around Santee both for work and visiting friends.
I personally have nothing against Santee – the commute would be bad for me working in North county.
The school scores are okay for elementary schools and closer to average for high school. I guess I would call the school score a non-issue for me – not good enough to entice me to come there and not bad enough to scare me away. My wife was a teacher at one point and I fully agree with whoever posted that, at least at the elementary school level, it is all about parent involvement – poor high school scores would scare me more.
I do agree that calling Santee full of mexicans is off – if anything I would think of Santee as pretty solidly middle to lower middle class and very white.
I think the problem with Santee at the moment is exactly what the original post was about – home prices in Santee are WAY too high for a place with a median household income in the mid 60k’s – I agree that wiki is a poor source to cite – city data is a little better:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Santee-California.html
I would not be opposed to living in Santee, but at the moment I can’t afford it without doing some form of horrible mortgage – at a median household income of 65K a year, the median house price in Santee should be 200K to 225K – not 400K+ – that is not a knock on Santee, it is just a statement based on the population’s income and how stupid the housing market is in San Diego. Someone with a graduate degree and a professional, decent paying job SHOULD be able to buy a house in Santee, right?
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September 25, 2007 at 11:58 AM #85839
little lady
ParticipantArtifact
I feel similarly to you, however, Westhills had the highest test scores in the district last year. They are better than average, Santana is more close to average.
I know LOTS of teachers, some on our soccer team(who by the way teaches in Temecula), in my neighborhood, etc…They ALL have high opinions of our schools systems and send their own kids there. I know alot of teachers that opt for private schools too.
“Someone with a graduate degree and a professional, decent paying job SHOULD be able to buy a house in Santee, right?”
Absolutely, everyplace in S.D. is, even south east S.D.
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September 25, 2007 at 12:10 PM #85843
PadreBrian
ParticipantSantee has a white trash character. Most property is prop-13’ed, and the old coots aren’t moving. So the tax income is sh*tty. Thus the parks aren’t as nice, and the schools aren’t the richest.
But, the nice thing about the above Standard Pacific homes OP asks about is that the tax rate is nice and low. 1.09%; the entire infrastructure is already there.
In 3 years both the 52 extension, and the zipper lanes should be done. So the rush-hour commute won’t be as bad.
The 30 year 5.375% fixed loan they are offering ain’t bad either.
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September 25, 2007 at 12:28 PM #85844
little lady
Participant“Santee has a white trash character. Most property is prop-13’ed, and the old coots aren’t moving.”
I would certainly agree that what alot of people think is that there is alot of “Whitetrash”. There are certainly some out here. There are way more normal, nice families.
We have LOTS of nice parks, and we are getting a huge sports park built in the center of town.
The prop 13 crowd may not be moving, but they are probably on there way out of this world, or not long until they will be.
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September 25, 2007 at 12:31 PM #85846
NotCranky
ParticipantI have a friend who live in Santee and works downtown. He doesn’t worry about the morning commute as he is a very early bird. He takes the 94 East to the 125 North to get home.His wife works in Mission Valley. So far so good.He and his wife are happy with Santee but not looking forward to Fanita Ranch developement. They got a good deal on a big new house right before the run up. They are perfectly happy with no cultural type ammenities to speak of because when they have free time they travel the world.
As a contractor I love the industrial area on the border between El Cajon and Santee. Those shops and light manufacturers supply the stuff a guy really needs and most of them are good at it and a pleasure to work with . We need places like that.
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September 25, 2007 at 1:27 PM #85853
Critter
ParticipantSantee Lakes is very cool. Great walking trails around all the lakes and the Spray Ground which shoots up water geysers for kids to romp around in.
Good use of land for that area!
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September 25, 2007 at 1:33 PM #85855
(former)FormerSanDiegan
Participant[img_assist|nid=4914|title=10 Minutes from La Jolla|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=466|height=343]
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September 25, 2007 at 1:59 PM #85860
little lady
Participant“No point in living 30-40 miles from the nice parts of San Diego”
That is what I was responding to.
Can you read?
ACROSS the 52 is 14.1 miles, that is what I keep saying and it is a short distance.
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September 25, 2007 at 1:41 PM #85858
VoZangre
ParticipantSniping
agreed. stay on topic.
I couldn’t resist the urge to jump into the mud wrestling
kiddie pool. 😉That quiz was spot on.
a la proxima…
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September 25, 2007 at 8:50 PM #85910
Coronita
ParticipantNo trying to jab anyone here…But the mention of the honors student reminds me of a bumper sticker that makes me laugh every time i see it on a car. I don't know why I still get a big kick out of it.
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As far as test scores, and best schools. My personal experience in a public school suggests that those aptitude test scores really mean didly.
I mean being at the average school at any school isn't too impressive. It's like saying you are at the average income of some area. It's not going to help you into a top school. So who cares about averages. It's what the individual can/can't do.
That said, how great a teacher at a school is or isn't really has no/little impact on your kid if you have the ability/time/patience to teach your own kids. Case in point. I remember a math teacher that I had once. During Parent/teacher conference, the teacher told my mom that I "needed help", and that I shouldn't pursue an engineering degree because I wouldn't be capable. He cited that I lacked attention and understanding interest.
Well, actually the real reason was this "teacher" was a surfer dude that could barely speak proper engrish. I don't know how he possibly could have gotten a teaching credential, let alone be teaching honors math in junior high. I would clasify him as a beach bum if I saw him outside of class. And this was in an afluent public school. Anyway, I ended up graduating from high school 20th out of 978 students in a fairly competitive and afluent community, where others had far much financial backing…At least it was enough for me to get in to an ivy school. Also, I pretty much AP'ed out of my first two years in college science and math. And pretty much graduated with a top 5 percent out of my engineering class. I loved math and science, but skipped class every other time just so I could hang out with a girl that was studying to be a doctor. Tells you how useful those teachers really are.
Public school math/science teachers was a joke, even in the best public schools. The only reason why I did well was I had a smart and patient father and I enjoyed learning on my own.
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September 25, 2007 at 9:06 PM #85914
temeculaguy
ParticipantYou can probably buy one of the models furnished at a bankruptcy auction pretty soon, Standard Pacific will be lucky to stay in business for much longer. Their stock hit a new low today of 6.12 (it was worth 5x that at one point this year and was worth 3x for most of the year). They have serious money problems and are having trouble borrowing. Their tracts, no matter where, are subject to ending up being half built and having “fill in” later (much later) by another developer. If there is an association and it’s not in the final third of build out I would be a little wary.
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September 25, 2007 at 9:17 PM #85918
mixxalot
Participant200k is what these new homes are worth
Nothing against Santee but it sure is not La Jolla, Del Mar or Solana Beach. Considering how far and little Santee offers compared to rest of San Diego. Otherwise I’d rather buy a 3000 square foot brand spanking new brick executive home in Texas, Arizona, or North Carolina for far less money. Hey, I am a consultant so I can pretty much live anywhere. The only reason why I still am in San Diego is because I have a good deal for a place near the beach and I am too busy right now traveling to buy a place and waiting for prices to bottom out first with the real estate market. Heck even Chula Juana is better deal with nicer malls and things nearby than Santee. And even cheaper than the overpriced stucco boxes by Standard Pacific. I did see a lot of lookee loos though this past weekend.
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September 25, 2007 at 10:27 PM #85923
Anonymous
Guestoh boy another genius this place is loaded with them.
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September 25, 2007 at 10:50 PM #85925
Coronita
Participantoh boy another genius this place is loaded with them.
too bad all your teachers thought you were an idiot. you should have went to better schools. i didnt realize if your teachers think your an idiot you can be labeled a geniusI wouldn't call anyone I met so far a genius (inclusive). The point I was trying to make…Very little correlation between what a teacher thinks a student can/can't do versus what a person can accomplish. And second, "average test scores" don't mean didly, because the average is so low to begin with. Some of these standardize tests, such as an SAT math is a joke. Teachers are just one of many data points. And considering that the average american stink at math, I take what a "teacher" says about someone's math skills with a grain of salt. As far as going to a 'better" schools. I went to a public school that was as good as it was going to get in california, short of private schools. Where I went, unfortunately, the student parking lot looked a lot nicer than the faculty, similar to what you would see in Torrey Pines HS, only much worse. Furthermore, I'm not convinced sending kids to private school really helps if parents aren't going to be involved. Several folks I knew went to public schools and ended up in Harvard,Stanford,Berkeley,Upenn,etc.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM #85931
little lady
ParticipantFLU
I can tell a couple of things from your post;
#1 YOU DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN
#2 you think schools are the same as when you were a kidThe schools we went to are not the same. Every year they get better. Infact teachers often tell me every year kids get smarter. IQ’s improve 2 points on average, what is it? Every 10 years? They are doing 8th grade algebra in 5th grade now.
They do alot of research, they do not administer tests because they believe they are inconclusive. The SAT 9 is not the test you took. The questions are not easy like they were. It is their best measurement at this time. They don’t tell the whole story for sure. They take into consideration that some kids just don’t test well, but get A’s in everything.
They have accelerated reader and accelerated math for students now. So that they can’t go further in these areas at their own pace, and not be held back by the rest of the class, if they are ahead.
A teacher nowadays would BE FIRED for saying to a parent or student what your teacher did. They feel EVERYONE can learn.
You could never get away with skipping class, they tail your every move now with notices, phone calls home. They will put the parents in jail now,for truancy.
I truly believe that I could have homeschooled my son, sent him to any school, he would have excelled anywhere because he was born that way. I do believe parents give their children the best start by instilling GOOD selfesteem in their children. When I child has good selfesteem they believe they can be the best and try harder than those who don’t. Couple that with reading books/stimulating your child’s mind and you have got a kid that is going to well in school and life, because he knows he can.
A lot of people make decisions on where they live based on the schools nearby. People were making inaccurate comments about Santee schools.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:41 PM #85932
Dukehorn
ParticipantErrr, timeout…
Who’s doing 8th grade algebra in 5th grade? The Santee elementary schools? So you’re suggesting that the “gifted” kids in Santee are going to be doing calculus by 9th grade? I’m going to have to roll my eyes right there. Don’t overstate your case, it ruins everything else you have to say.
And in terms of “impressive” school districts, it’s those high schools that churn out 5+ National Merit Scholars every year and send a slew of students off to Stanford and the Ivy Leagues. Santee isn’t in that league, and being 70% (as someone said earlier) isn’t going to attract people (and probably won’t scare them away either).
PS I think what confused people with the 10 minutes to La Jolla argument is that you talk about enjoying the beach in LaJolla but then pick a non-beach boundary to determine time and distance. Bad arguing technique…
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September 25, 2007 at 11:43 PM #85935
little lady
ParticipantI am just repeating what my son’s 5th grade teacher said to all the parents at open house. If you have children and done their homework with them you will find in no time at all you will not be able to help them. Every good school system is giving bits of algebra this early. Not every kid gets it though, of course.
“PS I think what confused people with the 10 minutes to La Jolla argument is that you talk about enjoying the beach in LaJolla but then pick a non-beach boundary to determine time and distance. Bad arguing technique”
For sure, but my point was it’s really not that far.
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September 25, 2007 at 11:43 PM #85936
sdrealtor
ParticipantDoes anybody sleep around here?
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September 25, 2007 at 11:46 PM #85937
little lady
Participant“So you’re suggesting that the “gifted” kids in Santee are going to be doing calculus by 9th grade? ”
Not mine anyway, they take honors algebra, in the 9th grade. Unless of course they are a 10 year old college student……..
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September 25, 2007 at 11:47 PM #85939
little lady
Participant“Does anybody sleep around here?”
MY HUSBAND! He is taking an online class, took a 5 minute break said he couldn’t sit here that long…then started snoring……..lol
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September 25, 2007 at 11:47 PM #85940
little lady
Participant“Does anybody sleep around here?”
MY HUSBAND! He is taking an online class, took a 5 minute break said he couldn’t sit here that long…then started snoring……..lol
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September 26, 2007 at 12:28 AM #85941
little lady
Participant“And in terms of “impressive” school districts, it’s those high schools that churn out 5+ National Merit Scholars every year and send a slew of students off to Stanford and the Ivy Leagues. Santee isn’t in that league, and being 70% (as someone said earlier) isn’t going to attract people (and probably won’t scare them away either).”
You know to tell you the truth I personally don’t really care.(Though my realestate agent claims people try to move close to Westhills.) I know I went to school out here, it was a great it experience for me. I felt safe. It was something I wanted my kids to know. I never looked at scores, except to see what everyone else was talking about. So I have gotten to understand what it is everyone else is looking for. I come on here and people keep making statements that I know they they don’t know what they are talking about. So I tried to enlighten. Don’t think it worked though, oh well.
As for National Merit Scholars, I it is not as impressive, but that was not what I was saying anyway.
My niece graduated with honors and a 4.5 g.p.a. from Santana (also gifted). I think she’s gonna do alright…..
(I am always telling her how smart she is and she keeps telling me how many kids are smarter than her, she’s very humble, and gorgeous)p.s. before anyone starts freaking out, you get an extra point for passing with a “C” or better in honors classes.
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September 26, 2007 at 4:27 AM #85943
Coronita
ParticipantFLU
I can tell a couple of things from your post;
#1 YOU DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN
#2 you think schools are the same as when you were a kidThe schools we went to are not the same. Every year they get be
#1 wrong, #2 wrong.
No offense. You're really walking into this one. Some friendly advice, don't take things too personally here. I'm not going to sit and slash and burn Santee.
A couple of things
1) I'm aware of the SAT 9 test/ In fact, I sent a few sample SAT 9 tests to my cousin in china. She (entering junior high). It's still basic basic math skills (everything before pre-calc) which no offense by world standards is a joke. Look, I'm not trying to stir up anything here. But let's face it. Some of these standard tests at least in math/science, and in general math/science pre-college here in the U.S. pale in comparison to world standards. Things aren't that much different. Math is still math.
2) Your statement of #2 is wrong. Actually, I think don't think all public schools are the same. But, you reach a point when the margin of error is with the kid itself. My preference would be to raise a kid in a district when the average family is a white collar professional, because kids influence other kids. Call me an intellectual snob, but I won't send my kids to a school district composed of a lot of blue collar families. Also, I am not for attending private schools. Public schools teach a lot for kids, especially how to deal with different situations. I can't comment on the demographics of the education background of folks living in Santee. BUT, I definitely won't be sending my kids to an area where this happened. That's not something I would consider "normal learning experience":
http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Santee_High_California_Shooting03501.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_High_School
Although warped thinking could say that if you believe this was truely a random event, the probability of something like this happening in the same school would be lower then elsewhere… Except, more recently
http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2007/09/three_santee_schools_in_lockdo.html
No offense, I wouldn't want to take the following chance..Just like I won't fly Taiwan's China Airlines (Statistically, they broken all probability of random air disaster to the point that you wonder if the problem is with the airline itelf)
3) Your assumption about #1 is also wrong. I do have a kid. Yawn, I really need to learn how to get back to sleep after my kid wakes me up in the middle of the night.
4)It's interesting you equated "involved parents" to home schooling. This wasn't my understanding of involved parents meant. Involved parents in my mind meant being parents that had your kids attend public school, but supplemented the deficiencies in school. There will be a lot, regardless of which district you belong to.
5) Lastly, I can't help but help: Distance(in miles)/Time(hrs) = MPH
Or alternatively: Distance(in miles) *60 / Time (minutes) = MPH
"Showing your work": 15 miles in 10 minutes would mean traveling 90mph across 52.If you use 14.1 miles as you stated to cross 52, "10 minutes" would mean you're traveling 85mph across 52. The mathematical "fact" can't be disputed.
6) If you moved/bought in Santee. Don't let what other people say here make you feel bad. If you're happy with your decision, that's all that really matters. People say lots of crap about where I live on this board.Who cares?
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September 26, 2007 at 7:46 AM #85945
little lady
ParticipantNo offense but, you are wrong. What I meant to say is that the wording used in today’s test are not the same “Dick and Jane” type words used in yesterdays testing. You have to have better comprehension. They are infact more difficult. Part of what I was refering to was the RAVEN test. That test was invented in England I believe.
If you have a kid, they aren’t very old. Apples don’t fall very far from the tree, and I can’t always help my kids with their homework in math. My son’s teacher said if he didn’t have the book, he couldn’t either. Because you just can’t remember that far back/ everything. Also, It is much more complicated today, than it was in when you or I was in school.
“4)It’s interesting you equated “involved parents” to home schooling. This wasn’t my understanding of involved parents meant. Involved parents in my mind meant being parents that had your kids attend public school, but supplemented the deficiencies in school. There will be a lot, regardless of which district you belong to. ”
I never mentioned that, that is NOT what I meant.
I was just saying, some are born that way, but your kid will do well if you make sure you give them self esteem and basic skills.
“Showing your work”: 15 miles in 10 minutes would mean traveling 90mph across 52.If you use 14.1 miles as you stated to cross 52, “10 minutes” would mean you’re traveling 85mph across 52. The mathematical “fact” can’t be disputed.”
Okay, so I speed. I got these damn genius’ I gotta get to a private school in La Jolla, in traffic, if I don’t it’s probably gonna be a 2hr commute down that highway!(Just kidding don’t freak.)
“6) If you moved/bought in Santee. Don’t let what other people say here make you feel bad. If you’re happy with your decision, that’s all that really matters. People say lots of crap about where I live on this board.Who cares?”
I don’t, no one has change my mind. I know that to me it’s the best deal in S.D.. I have a problem with the people who were making the untrue statements. I think that they were just having fun trying to make me mad, now. Juvenile.
As for the shooting,( I knew someone would bring that up)all I can say is he was not a product of the Santee School system.. He was from a different state, his problems started long before he got there…poor kid. That has got nothing to do with the learning evironment, happened at Virginia Tech, it happens at Mc Donalds, on the freeway, at work.
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September 26, 2007 at 8:09 AM #85947
Ex-SD
ParticipantAs Peter Boyle used to say in the sitcom, “Everybody Loves Raymond” :
*Holy Crap!
…….and……..
*Bap, Bap, Bap, Bap, Bap! (referring to his wife’s, non-stop blabbing)
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September 26, 2007 at 8:10 AM #85948
Coronita
ParticipantLook little lady, with all due respect, I don't think I want to entertain this thread forward because we are getting really off topic here and I really don't want to use up anymore of Rich T's bandwidth/storage to go off a tangent here. You obviously have made up your mind on Santee. Good for you.
But, with all due respect,
If you have a kid, they aren't very old. Apples don't fall very far from the tree, and I can't always help my kids with their homework in math. My son's teacher said if he didn't have the book, he couldn't either. Because you just can't remember that far back/ everything. Also, It is much more complicated today, than it was in when you or I was in school.
Sorry, unless your kids here are doing calculus or even pre-calc, I can't relate one "can't remember" basic math that one tends to use on a regular basis. Math is math is math. Math hasn't changed. Same rules, same content, same questions. Trig is still trig, geometry is still geometry, algebra is still the same, and calculus is calculus. Differential eq, are just that, and derivatives haven't changed. The only thing that has changed is the teaching method. Considering I frequently run into cashiers that can't compute 10% off when the registers are down, any change in public education system for math would be good. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. Ask any person with techie background, and they'll tell you same problem, different details.
As far as your genius kids, if you can't solve the rate X time = distance question, ask them to solve it for you. They should be capable of doing all of the below.
If a person travels 15 miles in 1750 secs, how fast is the person going in mph?
If a person swims 15 laps in 14 minutes, how many laps in 23 minutes?
If a person can make 2 pizzas per 15 minutes, how long will it take for him/her to make 21 pizzas?
If Joe Pimp's employee can turn 4 tricks in 1 hour, and each trick is $125, how much does one of Joe's pimp's employee make in 4 hours.
If 1 gram of crack costs $442 how much would 1.5 grams of crack cost.
Don't need to post answers here, because I already know the answers 🙂
Also, if you think the Santee schools are so great, why are you shuttling them to La Jolla? I missed that.
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September 26, 2007 at 8:30 AM #85950
little lady
ParticipantEMOTIONAL, must have struck a nerve…
“Also, if you think the Santee schools are so great, why are you shuttling them to La Jolla? I missed that. ”
hmmmmmmmm….thought you were a genius?
Anyway, don’t answer no one asked you to…….
Gotta run PTSA responsibilities……nuff said, ttfn
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September 26, 2007 at 8:41 AM #85951
patientlywaiting
ParticipantLife is sooooo like high school but with higher stakes.
Who cares about studying… I’d rather be goodlooking and popular with a trust fund!
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September 26, 2007 at 8:55 AM #85953
lendingbubblecontinues
Participant“If you have a kid, they aren’t very old. Apples don’t fall very far from the tree, and I can’t always help my kids with their homework in math.”
Based upon what I have read, I’d say you might want to consider getting the little prodigy an English tutor, too. 😉
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September 26, 2007 at 9:05 AM #85954
Critter
ParticipantSpelling, grammar, two words spelled as one….
and, the dreaded double post!
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September 26, 2007 at 9:06 AM #85955
farbet
ParticipantThis a sick thread. Get an Fing life
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