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CoronitaParticipantstill waiting for that one time big crash in stocks and real estate to make you come out ahead versus everyone else? Lol.
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CoronitaParticipantNasdaq 7 point from all time high.
S&P 500 within 1 point.
Dow back up over 21kThat didn’t take long. I guess Wall Street is use to Trump doing stupid things, lol.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=zk][quote=flu][quote=zk]
I get flu’s point that somebody has to be at the bottom. But I think that if we could lift up all the Tyrones and all the Rufuses (and all the Julios, while were at it), we’d have a better, happier, more prosperous country.[/quote]
It’s not about not helping those out open to the help. It’s about wasting time and energy on those who don’t want to be helped and are content to be narrow minded and self limiting.
Why waste you time helping people out that don’t appreciate it? There are plenty of people that would.[/quote]
I think I understood what you were saying; I apologize if I misrepresented it.
My point is that perhaps it’s not their fault that they’re narrow-minded and self limiting, and that we could help them escape that mind set. And, in the process, improve the lot of our country as a whole.[/quote]
Yes, what parents do have consequences for their kids. And that’s just too bad…It is what it is.
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I get flu’s point that somebody has to be at the bottom. But I think that if we could lift up all the Tyrones and all the Rufuses (and all the Julios, while were at it), we’d have a better, happier, more prosperous country.[/quote]
It’s not about not helping those out open to the help. It’s about wasting time and energy on those who don’t want to be helped and are content to be narrow minded and self limiting.
Why waste you time helping people out that don’t appreciate it? There are plenty of people that would.
CoronitaParticipantIf it were me, and another Russian military jet flew into U.S. air space again, I would have just given the order to shoot it down , and then afterwards say
“So sorry, we couldn’t identify the unidentified aircraft and thought it might have been a terrorist plane. Sorry about that…”
And if it happens again, shoot the next one down and again “sorry, it happened again..”
…and again…
…and again…But that’s probably what Putin would want that to happen.
Better yet would be to build an EMP device and bring it down without the Russians knowing what happened.
I guess good thing for this country, I’m not President.
We’re not going to get into a nuclear war. Everyone knows no one wins…
CoronitaParticipantWell, the great thing about this country is that once a president gets elected, he gets only gets about 2 years before he needs to become preoccupied with getting re-elected.
At this point, I think you would probably want things to continue to be a complete disaster so that interesting things happen mid term.
It might be entirely possible you have a bi-partisan initiative to eventually get rid of him if things continue blowing up the way they are.
Meanwhile, all these allegations and distractions are good. It keeps Trump and crew from pushing their agenda…
Meanwhile, grab some popcorn and enjoy the circus.
I wouldn’t worry about the rest of the world and losing credibility. I’m sure most people are pretty convinced it’s just Trump. You judge people by individuals not groups or where they are from. On a personal note (your kids), they will be judged on their achievements, not Trump’s failures and a faction of this country’s retardedness.
So again, not my problem, not your problem either.
When things return back to something more rationale and reasonable in our government in the middle, perhaps we do need to include some of those folks NoWhereVille and do something… Ignoring them won’t make problems go away, they just come back with a different ugly head.
I guess Bush Junior wasn’t as bad in retrospect… At least he has a sense of humor…
BTW: Saudi Arabia just bought the largest oil refinery in the US I think.. So much for making america great again… Lol…
Saudi Arabia Now Controls the Largest Oil Refinery in North America
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CoronitaParticipant[quote=zk][quote=flu]Less competition for my kid from them…Someone needs to continue to be at the bottom of the bell curve…
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There’s something I can work with.[/quote]
Well seriously, let’s put this in perspective…
Which do you think is better.
Hand out a feel good, sob story to a kid and tell him that it’s not his/her fault that he is failing, that’s is (insert you favorite minority group to blame), and tell him/her that XYZ government official will fix all their problems without lifting a finger.
or…
Telling the kid, hey, the world ain’t fair. What are you going to do, cry about it, and give up? Man/woman up, or go home.
I was pissed off before about this, but as AN pointed out to me, it really doesn’t affect my family or me. Because we’re busy finding ways around everything. Trump, the US, or the US government can’t stop the rest of the world, the rest of the world’s economy and opportunities. If folks in this country want to brainwash their kids into self-limiting their opportunity, well it’s their choice. I feel sorry for their kids, but again… not my problem.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=zk]Most of these problems might not be my problems. I am nonetheless concerned for (at least) 3 reasons. Not in any particular order:
1) The people who voted for con man don are credulous and gullible, and they have brought this upon themselves. A lot of them voted for con man don because they’re afraid of the new culture of America, in which they’re no longer the preferred people. Which, in many cases, does make them racists and/or xenophobes. But they are humans nonetheless. They’ve been tricked and duped and lied to and manipulated. The racist ones were probably raised by racist parents. To let them be eaten by the wolves they were tricked into voting for seems like an inferior response to trying to educate them. Both for how their lives would turn out and for how the country would turn out. Yes, I know, they’re tough to educate. They’re stuck in their ways and stuck to their fox propaganda. Sure, it ain’t easy. Good things rarely are.
Now, if it was right-wing media who we were throwing to the wolves, I’d be all for it. I’d yell “fuck them” at the top of my lungs and I’d yell “take that, motherfuckers” at them as they were being eaten. I would raise my arms in triumph as the wolves shit out whatever disgusting brown remnants were left of them. They’re the ones that deserve our contempt and hate. They sold propaganda for money. They are ruining our country.
2) Even if it’s not my problem, it’s this country’s problem. I think this is a great country, and it would be bad for us and bad for the world if we failed as a country.
3) My daughter is 16 years old. God knows how much damage con man don craven congressional republicans could cause if nobody checks his power. I don’t want that kind of future for my daughter.[/quote]
Nothing to worry about. Our kids are more connected to the rest of the world than we are. I see this nothing more than some old grumpy, pissed off men in NoWhereville, America venting about how the world is changing around them, and they don’t like it. Your kids will be fine as long as you raised them to not fall into the same trap as they did. And if their kids are just as narrow minded and self-limiting, they aren’t going to get very far, and won’t be of significance in the 21st century… Less competition for my kid from them…Someone needs to continue to be at the bottom of the bell curve…
Again, not my problem….
CoronitaParticipant[quote=outtamojo]I guess this has become my hobby, sad to say : ([/quote]
The answer to life’s problem is always “miata”.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Flu, I sorta agree with “not my problem”. But I want to stay informed and knowledgeable about our world.
I don’t want to be the dumb shits who pontificate about Syria but don’t know the difference between Shia, Sunni and Alawites.
I’m cool as an ice cube and don’t let any of this personally upset me in any way. I find it highly entertaining. It’s like going to the zoo while reading my iPad in the toilet. I do that a lot since I eat lots of veggies.
Also, as responsible citizens we have to be angry that our country is being destroyed, but we can t be cynical or bitter.[/quote]
Mad? Why? There’s nothing to be mad at. This is how democracy works. If enough people want to go down a terrible path, that’s choice…. Those people voted for this. Those people deserve to have everything that’s going to happen to them. Again, not my problem.
Getting left out of trade deals that would give opportunities to middle class americans? Not my problem.
*Removing restrictions off nutritional guidelines for public school meals… Again, not my problem…My kid will brown bag their lunch.
*Removing EPA rules/ OSHA rules…CA usually leads environmental laws/workplace regulation wrto the rest of the nation (I hate CARB, but in spirit I get it)….But if we have mines that collapse in places like West VA…Again, not my problem..
*Can’t find a doctor in the rural rustbelt states, where the majority of the doctors are foreign/visa doctors who are the only ones willing to work for substandard pay in those impoverished areas… Again, not my problem.
*Want to gut obamacare so the majority of the people in this country with some sort of preexisting condition (high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity,etc)…can no longer find insurance…Again not my problem.. While we are at it, why not repeal social security too. Why should I save for other people who cannot save for themselves… Again, not my problem.
People voted for this… The WANTED it to happen… And again, not my problem.
CoronitaParticipantyou guys need a hobby. Then you can forget about what goes on in washington, and adopt my
“I don’t give a shit, it’s not my problem” attitude.Here’s a few things you can think…
It doesn’t affect me directly, not my problem…
Let the next election sort it’s own mess out, not my problem.
Populists aren’t going to benefit from the administration…too bad.. also not my problem.
In fact, they might be worse off, after everything is done… also not my problem.
CoronitaParticipantmaybe the two people are happy without owning a home.
The entrepreneur is probably not thinking about how to milk money out of real estate probably because he’s having too much fun making money doing other things. The 31 year old, probably the same thing.
I certainly wouldn’t be very motivated right now to buy or upgrade. It would be great to upgrade to a home with more garages, but I like even more not having a regular payment every month (minus the property tax which my tenants effectively pay for).
Makes me able to enjoy my hobbies more these days, less time thinking about real estate, and the optimal time to purchase. It will come, when it comes….no idea when. Until then, look and wait…. or stop and smell the flowers while you can…or in my case the exhaust fumes, heh heh.
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