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CoronitaParticipant[quote=Hobie]And what to do with a ton of tp and a freezer full of pizza. :)[/quote]
Can’t return them at Costco
ha ha ha.https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/22/costco-toilet-paper-hoarding-panic-buying-coronavirus/
March 22, 2020 at 10:05 AM in reply to: What did you do with your remain-at-home corona virus day? #815900CoronitaParticipantSince Las Vegas and Barona are closed, we taught my teen how to gamble.
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I think today I’m going to teach my kid how to drive, even though she wont be licensed for awhile.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]yes most of us will eventually get infected…the goal now is to flatten and widen the curve.
at this point that’s all we can do…that ensures those who need hospitalization get a fair chance at getting it, instead of having hospital staff pick and choose who they take in.[/quote]
Yup. Seems like the virus has been on US a lot longer than people thought. Some folks might have already had it and dismissed it earlier as a variation of the flu. Seeing infections come up in states where there’s typically not a lot of people from China and Italy going back and forth says it’s been circulating for some time. At this point it almost is pointless to test and assume most people who are sick have it, and just treat the ones with severe symptoms and the elderly
Nobody expected Italy or Europe for that matter to have a huge issue because of China’s failure to disclose the infection earlier to anyone including the EU. So Europe is as late to the preparation as just like the US, despite supposedly the superior public health system in many of those countries. Germany too needs to mobilize the private industry to build medical supplies and equipment as it too was caught underprepared. Spain is getting hit pretty hard too, also behind in their response.
The interesting part is the majority of the people getting sick and turning up in the ICU aren’t the older seniors. It’s mostly people younger than 60 and overwhelmingly men.
CoronitaParticipantSo this is interesting.
The PC system I put together two weeks ago now costs a few hundred extra. Some of the components are no longer available from the usual places and cost more elsewhere. Furthermore places like Amazon and newegg aren’t delivering components to end of April.
I guess all this work from home put an unusual demand on home computers and laptops and besides inventory, there’s a longer delivery time too from retailers. And you simply can’t go to a store and pick one up. Apple stores for example are all closed for the rest of the month, so its all online orders. And if I remember correctly, most MacBook/min/pro machines are made to order and shipped from directly from China unless you happen to pick a preconfigured system that is still in stock. I guess you could still go to places like Costco to get one.
CoronitaParticipantSo despite years of bitching about government survellance and privacy encroachment, all the way back to posts about spying on is citizens post 9/11 for security screening, suddenly, you are suggesting the government should have taken a more active role in survellance at the airport to catch this virus earlier 🙂
Can you say Hipaa?
CoronitaParticipantImho, everyone is eventually going to get infected. Immunity spread and eventually community immunity. Natural selection/God/your favorite belief system will sort us out on who lives. Can’t change fate. If it’s your time to go, it’s your time to go. NYC infection rate is accelerating now epicenter shifted from Washington state. As expected city, high population density, cold, lots of community use public transportation.
CoronitaParticipantSouth Korea , Hong Kong, Taiwan had an earlier start, has a smaller population and territory to deal with, and generally are civically more obedient when it comes health issues having experienced SARS. US has not experienced something like this since 1918 and not only was the Federal government in denial, so were many local government. Look at how the mayor of Las Vegas handled this. Even when NY, CA, WA states were showing large infections, somehow the Las Vegas mayor thought Las Vegas would somehow be immune to this despite Las Vegas being a top tourist destination for lots of Asians. There’s got to be more than enough exposures to all the travel back and forth similar to the travel between Washington/CA and China. But even then, Las Vegas mayor insisted on keeping things open longer than it probably should have….because the mayor knows the financial impact of shutting down is astronomical, and while casinos are mostly well capitalized, this would trigger an enormous wave of job losses that would not be recoverable in the near term, and impact the individual small businesses , people, and real estate that are completely hinged on this one industry. Unfortunately, it’s simply unrealistic to expect things to have simply gone away and avoided Vegas. And the late delay in Vegas is probably going to make it a lot worse now that in all likelihood the industry in Vegas will need to stay shutdown a lot longer .
If the federal government mandated an shutdown as early as January, people would have been complaining about why our federal government is encroaching on our rights and ruining the economy when we haven’t even been affected by this virus. The mayor of Vegas would have been on the top of list of complainers.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Hobie]Here is a timeline beginning Nov 17:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/heres-a-timeline-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak-and-chinas-coverup?%5B/quote%5DThat’s the thing. See people keep blaming our government for the reason why this thing is spreading so fast. Yes, there’s a lot of baffooning that happened for failing to take this thing seriously once China started to officially report an outbreak. But there’s a bigger problem. China officially reported this virus very very late. 2 months or more and by that time it had already spread outside its borders from all the commerce that happens between there and other places
The virus was probably already here in the US back in late December maybe even earlier.After talking to the folks that were from my previous company there were a lot of people that came down with similar things my colleagues did thing before and after when they came back: flu like symptoms, sometimes worse, high fever 104-105, extreme soreness, difficult breathing, dry cough… despite testing negative for for flu, and have a flu shot. Doctors they saw here were puzzled, but after about 2 weeks their symptoms went away and they didn’t think anything more of it. These folks were all the people that went back and for between here and China, none were in Wuhan. So it suggests even in December the virus had already left Wuhan and was already in other areas like Beijing, and already infecting a lot of people. Good luck trying to trace whom these people had contact with 1-2months ago.
This is just a small group out of a smaller company. I’m sure it wasn’t alone. For example, tskke a large company like Qualcomm that had a remote office location there and have a lot more people going back and forth between China and here. I suspect there were some folks that came down with the same thing, like a few of us had a cough for 2 months that didn’t go away, and some folks who normally would shake a flu ended up with bronchitis this year.
Expanding even further, Washington state has a lot of people going back and forth to China, so does the Bay Area, same with LA. And notice those are the areas with a much larger concentration of outbreaks. Vancouver too. I looked it up , I think they are close to 400 cases.
Before naysayers say this is being alarmist it isnt. For the majority of the cases that come down with this, it will probably be similar to 2 weeks of severe flu like symptoms and it will pass. For a smaller percentage of the population , it will be high risk. And going to lockdown is necessary not so much because we can contain the virus. We are well past containment, and probably never had a chance to contain it anyway. We need this lockdown so we don’t have a huge population infected flooding the ICU infecting all the nurses and doctors. Even wearing an N95 mask is not going to really stop a virus from infecting someone, it just reduces the chances significantly. Afterall, in San Diego County there will be roughly 1 ICU bed for 30 people unless we get a lot more makeshift beds setup soon. And even then, I don’t know if there will be a lot of ventilators to go around. It’s not like they can be procured as quickly as as a face mask. And if you try to buy a real ventilator that normally several thousands, they aren’t available, and if you buy the cheaper concentrators like the one above, they are slowly not available too. That’s why some people are creating the Arduino hack to turn more readily available CPAP machines into higher flowing machines because in the short term that might be reality if you need one.
Interestingly though, here in San Diego, the majority of the people infected are less than 60 years old. Probably because people older than 60 don’t go out as much and travel/interact as frequently. But definitely, young people are getting affected by it.
It was a Chinese virus, China didn’t disclose of this sooner. The virus already left its borders. The rest of the world had a much later start. Then, the governments didn’t take things seriously after that, and some still aren’t taking it seriously. China doesn’t want to lose face, so redirects and blames US army for planting a virus and gets butt hurt calling this a Chinese Flu, despite everyone calling the pandemic flu of 1918 “Spanish Flu”.
China’s Fault; 70%
US governments lack of readiness: 30%(subjectively scored of course)
CoronitaParticipantSlightly under $800 after tax.
Insurance for at risk relatives.I figure the real infection day for San Diego started closer to end of December using the date of my ex coworkers return from China when several of them came down with very severe flu like symptoms, despite all having had the flu shot and all of them with the exact same symptoms all testing negative for the flu. All 7-8 of them all shared the same office whee it started with one coughing severely, then had trouble breathing, 104+105F fever, and then the remaining people having the same symptoms a few days after. All 50years old or younger. I just found out about matter of fact days ago, when I saw there was an positive case in LJ and I was warning him about his kids going to that school, and he sort of matter fact said “we probably already had it” and we were piecing together how far back the date was when his co-workers first started traveling back and forth to China. They returned shortly after Christmas. They in LJ, CarmelV, a few lives in RB. So this virus didn’t just happen in 2020, it was already circulating in 2019…And it was outside Wuhan already. I asked them if they were going to get tested, and they cant. It’s been more than 2months, they can’t test for the antibodies here in the US and not this late, and who knows where they have been, who they interacted with, and who else could have been infected already. The Chinese hospitals knew about it in December because they were already testing people with SARS like symptoms . Hence why some Chinese people are calling this the Chinese Flu.
So, many people here probably already had this flu. And this is just a small sample. There been a lot more people from China to other areas. Washington State doesnt surprise me. Neither is NYC, which is the epicenter..SF and LA probably will get bad too..LV probably had a lot of tourists passing it around too. probably Vancouver as well, I don’t have the infection rate there but suspect it will be bad there too . Colder climate areas will probably do way worse.
CoronitaParticipantIt came! The order was cancelled, and when I looked again it was out of stock, but then it went shipped. Now it’s out of stock again.
Forgot to submit a prescription and thought the order was cancelled because of that. But Fedex dropped it off today.
Yup, I’m a total prepper.
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Now if my package of Avigan from Japan would hurry up and get here, that would be great.
My kid’s violin teacher called. Recital is cancelled, and private class will be done remotely via SnapChat. I was like really? He said he does this all the time since he has a lot of students overseas. Interesting times.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]All the invectives are coming from you, flu. Personal attacks much?[/quote]
says the fake guy with the fake name that started with a personal reply who now cries like you’re a victim. In real life Brian, good that you don’t need to start practicing social distancing . I think before this virus, I’m guessing people already were practicing social distancing a long time before. I can see why.
CoronitaParticipantBrian, if you want mentally masturbate during this crisis. Go right ahead.
CoronitaParticipantIt was great when most of your almost bi daily progressive facade rant bullshit dumpster diving threads every other day stopped briefly stopped when the economy was doing well because there actually was some decent real estate and stock discussions in the absence of all the “Trump is an asshole” thread that ZK was obsessed with resurrecting over and over again and progressive blah blah blah bullshit that you resurrect every other day.
It was almost as annoying as the “Newsom is an asshole” thread that what’s his face always starts. But pretty much all of you are all they same. You are all miserable individuals that let politics consume most of your life.It would be great if you guys locked yourself in closet and slug it out because I think the rest of us don’t really give a shit about other extremes. Some of us actually care about what’s going on, like the hundreds of hourly workers that are suddenly going to be unemployed. Or the several indoviduals that do field support that are soon going to have severely reduced hours..
not because of Trump… but because of this Chinese Flu.CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Nothing to do with Trump. I anticipated a cyclical recession.
As I said many times, I believe in buying real estate only after a recession has been announced. Match the economic cycles to the stages of your life. Including the current recession, I had maybe 2 cycles left, and that’s it.In expensive markets like San Diego, not buying near the cyclical bottom is just plain dumb.[/quote]
That’s 100% bullshit Brian.
The fact you got kicked of this board, came back as FlyerInHi, denied it so long, and have been proven through multiple plants my many that made you self-admit it’s you, pretty much destroys any sort of credibility to the contrary. The Friend(s) that posted from the account put it succiently. You come across as a progressive elitist when in reality you sound more like a Trump-single-tooth bumpkin. You complain about getting personal, but that’s all you do and you get all butt hurt when it turns around on you. Lol.
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