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citydweller
Participant[quote=UCGal]No. That’s not my opinion. Obviously the President has many priorities and time commitments.
But people aren’t talking about the lives lost when this first happened. 11 families were torn asunder. There are no public funerals the way there were with the miners. There is little media attention to the fact that 11 people died. The media and political focus has been on the environmental disaster. Don’t get me wrong, the environmental damage is epic and deserves attention – but it’s like we forgot the people.[/quote]
I agree that it seems the media has paid little attention to the 11 people who died, however I’ve been watching a lot of the hearings on CSPAN since this all began and it’s my observation that almost every congressperson, senator and witness has paid their respects to the lives that were lost, before beginning their testimony or questioning. Unfortunately these heartfelt expressions do not make it to the headline news.
citydweller
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Here we go again! IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff aka Minerals Management Service.
WASHINGTON (AP) – “Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.”
The entire article can be found at the AP website. About halfway through the article is this paragraph
– “The report covers activities between 2000 and 2008. Salazar said he has asked Kendall to expand her investigation to look into agency actions since he took office in January 2009.”
In reading the article it sounds like they have been aware of the problems and are actually trying to do something about it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
citydweller
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Here we go again! IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff aka Minerals Management Service.
WASHINGTON (AP) – “Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.”
The entire article can be found at the AP website. About halfway through the article is this paragraph
– “The report covers activities between 2000 and 2008. Salazar said he has asked Kendall to expand her investigation to look into agency actions since he took office in January 2009.”
In reading the article it sounds like they have been aware of the problems and are actually trying to do something about it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
citydweller
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Here we go again! IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff aka Minerals Management Service.
WASHINGTON (AP) – “Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.”
The entire article can be found at the AP website. About halfway through the article is this paragraph
– “The report covers activities between 2000 and 2008. Salazar said he has asked Kendall to expand her investigation to look into agency actions since he took office in January 2009.”
In reading the article it sounds like they have been aware of the problems and are actually trying to do something about it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
citydweller
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Here we go again! IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff aka Minerals Management Service.
WASHINGTON (AP) – “Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.”
The entire article can be found at the AP website. About halfway through the article is this paragraph
– “The report covers activities between 2000 and 2008. Salazar said he has asked Kendall to expand her investigation to look into agency actions since he took office in January 2009.”
In reading the article it sounds like they have been aware of the problems and are actually trying to do something about it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
citydweller
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Here we go again! IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff aka Minerals Management Service.
WASHINGTON (AP) – “Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.”
The entire article can be found at the AP website. About halfway through the article is this paragraph
– “The report covers activities between 2000 and 2008. Salazar said he has asked Kendall to expand her investigation to look into agency actions since he took office in January 2009.”
In reading the article it sounds like they have been aware of the problems and are actually trying to do something about it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
citydweller
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Under the no more drilling thought. after the first plane crashed or boat sunk or rocket blew up should they have scrapped the subsequent attempts? Not saying this isn’t bad but shouldn’t we all learn from what is happening so it doesn’t happen again or so we know what to do when/if it does? Enough blaming and politics already. BP is at fault and will pay. The gov’t should be doing whatever is needed to assist or cap the hole. It does seem to me that both sides are sitting on their hands for some reason.[/quote]
PlnrBoy, I don’t think those are fair comparisons. Never has a sinking boat or blown up rocket caused as much environmental damage as this. Not to mention the economic damage that will be suffered by thousands along the Gulf Coast.
I’m not sure about the history of what happened after the Hindenburg exploded, but I think sometimes after a disaster the best thing that can be learned is that “maybe this isn’t a good idea”.citydweller
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Under the no more drilling thought. after the first plane crashed or boat sunk or rocket blew up should they have scrapped the subsequent attempts? Not saying this isn’t bad but shouldn’t we all learn from what is happening so it doesn’t happen again or so we know what to do when/if it does? Enough blaming and politics already. BP is at fault and will pay. The gov’t should be doing whatever is needed to assist or cap the hole. It does seem to me that both sides are sitting on their hands for some reason.[/quote]
PlnrBoy, I don’t think those are fair comparisons. Never has a sinking boat or blown up rocket caused as much environmental damage as this. Not to mention the economic damage that will be suffered by thousands along the Gulf Coast.
I’m not sure about the history of what happened after the Hindenburg exploded, but I think sometimes after a disaster the best thing that can be learned is that “maybe this isn’t a good idea”.citydweller
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Under the no more drilling thought. after the first plane crashed or boat sunk or rocket blew up should they have scrapped the subsequent attempts? Not saying this isn’t bad but shouldn’t we all learn from what is happening so it doesn’t happen again or so we know what to do when/if it does? Enough blaming and politics already. BP is at fault and will pay. The gov’t should be doing whatever is needed to assist or cap the hole. It does seem to me that both sides are sitting on their hands for some reason.[/quote]
PlnrBoy, I don’t think those are fair comparisons. Never has a sinking boat or blown up rocket caused as much environmental damage as this. Not to mention the economic damage that will be suffered by thousands along the Gulf Coast.
I’m not sure about the history of what happened after the Hindenburg exploded, but I think sometimes after a disaster the best thing that can be learned is that “maybe this isn’t a good idea”.citydweller
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Under the no more drilling thought. after the first plane crashed or boat sunk or rocket blew up should they have scrapped the subsequent attempts? Not saying this isn’t bad but shouldn’t we all learn from what is happening so it doesn’t happen again or so we know what to do when/if it does? Enough blaming and politics already. BP is at fault and will pay. The gov’t should be doing whatever is needed to assist or cap the hole. It does seem to me that both sides are sitting on their hands for some reason.[/quote]
PlnrBoy, I don’t think those are fair comparisons. Never has a sinking boat or blown up rocket caused as much environmental damage as this. Not to mention the economic damage that will be suffered by thousands along the Gulf Coast.
I’m not sure about the history of what happened after the Hindenburg exploded, but I think sometimes after a disaster the best thing that can be learned is that “maybe this isn’t a good idea”.citydweller
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Under the no more drilling thought. after the first plane crashed or boat sunk or rocket blew up should they have scrapped the subsequent attempts? Not saying this isn’t bad but shouldn’t we all learn from what is happening so it doesn’t happen again or so we know what to do when/if it does? Enough blaming and politics already. BP is at fault and will pay. The gov’t should be doing whatever is needed to assist or cap the hole. It does seem to me that both sides are sitting on their hands for some reason.[/quote]
PlnrBoy, I don’t think those are fair comparisons. Never has a sinking boat or blown up rocket caused as much environmental damage as this. Not to mention the economic damage that will be suffered by thousands along the Gulf Coast.
I’m not sure about the history of what happened after the Hindenburg exploded, but I think sometimes after a disaster the best thing that can be learned is that “maybe this isn’t a good idea”.citydweller
ParticipantI went through something very similar myself. I turned 50 last year and found that I was waking up every morning full of anxiety and fear. I began exploring spirituality and in the past 6 months have made great progress in achieving peace of mind.
I have started practicing meditation, 15 minutes every morning. I ordered CD’s from Amazon, Pema Chodron “How to Meditate”. I also ordered some of her other CD’s (Getting Unstuck) and listen to them as I fall asleep at night.
Other CD’s that have helped are Byron Katie, “Loving What Is”. Her basic message is, instead of striving to achieve what you think will make you happy, just be happy with what is.
One of the biggest changes in my thinking that has brought me peace of mind is the realization that it is not my job to ensure that others are happy. Nor is it my job to impart my “wisdom” to others on how to live their lives (yes, I do see the irony considering that I am now trying to impart my so-called wisdom to you). I cannot over emphasize what a feeling of relief it was to no longer feel that it was my responsibility to “fix” everyone else.
Just relax and realize that life is really quite simple. All you have to do is show up. You do not need to impress anyone (even yourself). If you are breathing you are living, it doesn’t get any more simple than that.
citydweller
ParticipantI went through something very similar myself. I turned 50 last year and found that I was waking up every morning full of anxiety and fear. I began exploring spirituality and in the past 6 months have made great progress in achieving peace of mind.
I have started practicing meditation, 15 minutes every morning. I ordered CD’s from Amazon, Pema Chodron “How to Meditate”. I also ordered some of her other CD’s (Getting Unstuck) and listen to them as I fall asleep at night.
Other CD’s that have helped are Byron Katie, “Loving What Is”. Her basic message is, instead of striving to achieve what you think will make you happy, just be happy with what is.
One of the biggest changes in my thinking that has brought me peace of mind is the realization that it is not my job to ensure that others are happy. Nor is it my job to impart my “wisdom” to others on how to live their lives (yes, I do see the irony considering that I am now trying to impart my so-called wisdom to you). I cannot over emphasize what a feeling of relief it was to no longer feel that it was my responsibility to “fix” everyone else.
Just relax and realize that life is really quite simple. All you have to do is show up. You do not need to impress anyone (even yourself). If you are breathing you are living, it doesn’t get any more simple than that.
citydweller
ParticipantI went through something very similar myself. I turned 50 last year and found that I was waking up every morning full of anxiety and fear. I began exploring spirituality and in the past 6 months have made great progress in achieving peace of mind.
I have started practicing meditation, 15 minutes every morning. I ordered CD’s from Amazon, Pema Chodron “How to Meditate”. I also ordered some of her other CD’s (Getting Unstuck) and listen to them as I fall asleep at night.
Other CD’s that have helped are Byron Katie, “Loving What Is”. Her basic message is, instead of striving to achieve what you think will make you happy, just be happy with what is.
One of the biggest changes in my thinking that has brought me peace of mind is the realization that it is not my job to ensure that others are happy. Nor is it my job to impart my “wisdom” to others on how to live their lives (yes, I do see the irony considering that I am now trying to impart my so-called wisdom to you). I cannot over emphasize what a feeling of relief it was to no longer feel that it was my responsibility to “fix” everyone else.
Just relax and realize that life is really quite simple. All you have to do is show up. You do not need to impress anyone (even yourself). If you are breathing you are living, it doesn’t get any more simple than that.
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