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November 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480954
CardiffBaseball
Participant[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.
Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.
Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.
My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy?
) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.
CardiffBaseball
Participant[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.
Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.
Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.
My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy?
) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.
CardiffBaseball
Participant[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.
Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.
Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.
My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy?
) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.
CardiffBaseball
Participant[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.
Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.
Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.
My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy?
) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.
CardiffBaseball
Participant[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.
Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.
Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.
My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy?
) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantC’mon Brian there are such a small number of people who match up to your stereotype of knuckle-dragging mouthbreaters, who breed and keep their kids ignorant. Every church I’ve ever been in including here in SD was full of very successful, well-educated professionals.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantC’mon Brian there are such a small number of people who match up to your stereotype of knuckle-dragging mouthbreaters, who breed and keep their kids ignorant. Every church I’ve ever been in including here in SD was full of very successful, well-educated professionals.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantC’mon Brian there are such a small number of people who match up to your stereotype of knuckle-dragging mouthbreaters, who breed and keep their kids ignorant. Every church I’ve ever been in including here in SD was full of very successful, well-educated professionals.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantC’mon Brian there are such a small number of people who match up to your stereotype of knuckle-dragging mouthbreaters, who breed and keep their kids ignorant. Every church I’ve ever been in including here in SD was full of very successful, well-educated professionals.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantC’mon Brian there are such a small number of people who match up to your stereotype of knuckle-dragging mouthbreaters, who breed and keep their kids ignorant. Every church I’ve ever been in including here in SD was full of very successful, well-educated professionals.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG a good article on my beloved Buckeyes a couple years old but timely for the discussion.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-01-04-ohiostate-finances-cover_x.htm
Notably the two profit sports were football (28-29 million) and Men’s basketball (about 7-8 million) which of course fund all other sports. Looks like they most of the sports revenue stays with sports but I see one area where they are giving $1 million per year for years is the library. Not chump change. They also kick in 1.1 million per year to the general fund.
They even fund Synchronized Swimming and the ladies have won 25 of the 33 national championships. (Outside of Stanford hardly any schools participate.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG a good article on my beloved Buckeyes a couple years old but timely for the discussion.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-01-04-ohiostate-finances-cover_x.htm
Notably the two profit sports were football (28-29 million) and Men’s basketball (about 7-8 million) which of course fund all other sports. Looks like they most of the sports revenue stays with sports but I see one area where they are giving $1 million per year for years is the library. Not chump change. They also kick in 1.1 million per year to the general fund.
They even fund Synchronized Swimming and the ladies have won 25 of the 33 national championships. (Outside of Stanford hardly any schools participate.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG a good article on my beloved Buckeyes a couple years old but timely for the discussion.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-01-04-ohiostate-finances-cover_x.htm
Notably the two profit sports were football (28-29 million) and Men’s basketball (about 7-8 million) which of course fund all other sports. Looks like they most of the sports revenue stays with sports but I see one area where they are giving $1 million per year for years is the library. Not chump change. They also kick in 1.1 million per year to the general fund.
They even fund Synchronized Swimming and the ladies have won 25 of the 33 national championships. (Outside of Stanford hardly any schools participate.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantTG a good article on my beloved Buckeyes a couple years old but timely for the discussion.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-01-04-ohiostate-finances-cover_x.htm
Notably the two profit sports were football (28-29 million) and Men’s basketball (about 7-8 million) which of course fund all other sports. Looks like they most of the sports revenue stays with sports but I see one area where they are giving $1 million per year for years is the library. Not chump change. They also kick in 1.1 million per year to the general fund.
They even fund Synchronized Swimming and the ladies have won 25 of the 33 national championships. (Outside of Stanford hardly any schools participate.
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