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Participant[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]
Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]
I was referring to this:
“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”
This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….
My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.
Participant[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]
Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]
I was referring to this:
“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”
This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….
My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.
Participant[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]
Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]
I was referring to this:
“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”
This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….
My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.
Participant[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]
Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]
I was referring to this:
“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”
This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….
My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.
Participant[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]
Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]
I was referring to this:
“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”
This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….
My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.
ParticipantBrian I’d suggest pulling together $20 or heading to the library and getting Taubes’ book. You’ll find a well-researched, exhaustively footnoted book, that discusses many of the the claims about saturated fat.
ParticipantBrian I’d suggest pulling together $20 or heading to the library and getting Taubes’ book. You’ll find a well-researched, exhaustively footnoted book, that discusses many of the the claims about saturated fat.
ParticipantBrian I’d suggest pulling together $20 or heading to the library and getting Taubes’ book. You’ll find a well-researched, exhaustively footnoted book, that discusses many of the the claims about saturated fat.
ParticipantBrian I’d suggest pulling together $20 or heading to the library and getting Taubes’ book. You’ll find a well-researched, exhaustively footnoted book, that discusses many of the the claims about saturated fat.
ParticipantBrian I’d suggest pulling together $20 or heading to the library and getting Taubes’ book. You’ll find a well-researched, exhaustively footnoted book, that discusses many of the the claims about saturated fat.
Participant[quote=Operation]It’s all about meat.
I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.
I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.
I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity
The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.
“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]
What if it’s all been a big-fat lie?
Again, if someone wants to eat Vegan more power to them, I admire their courage to have to eat like that day in and day out. But to suggest it would help or benefit everyone is crap. Good Calories/Bad Calories by Taubes is also an excellent source if you want to see the Govt./Food industry collaboration over the last 50 years.
I personally have way more energy and feel significantly lighter when I’ve avoided carbs for a few days. I also sleep better.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.
Participant[quote=Operation]It’s all about meat.
I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.
I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.
I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity
The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.
“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]
What if it’s all been a big-fat lie?
Again, if someone wants to eat Vegan more power to them, I admire their courage to have to eat like that day in and day out. But to suggest it would help or benefit everyone is crap. Good Calories/Bad Calories by Taubes is also an excellent source if you want to see the Govt./Food industry collaboration over the last 50 years.
I personally have way more energy and feel significantly lighter when I’ve avoided carbs for a few days. I also sleep better.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.
Participant[quote=Operation]It’s all about meat.
I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.
I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.
I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity
The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.
“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]
What if it’s all been a big-fat lie?
Again, if someone wants to eat Vegan more power to them, I admire their courage to have to eat like that day in and day out. But to suggest it would help or benefit everyone is crap. Good Calories/Bad Calories by Taubes is also an excellent source if you want to see the Govt./Food industry collaboration over the last 50 years.
I personally have way more energy and feel significantly lighter when I’ve avoided carbs for a few days. I also sleep better.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.
Participant[quote=Operation]It’s all about meat.
I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.
I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.
I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity
The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.
“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]
What if it’s all been a big-fat lie?
Again, if someone wants to eat Vegan more power to them, I admire their courage to have to eat like that day in and day out. But to suggest it would help or benefit everyone is crap. Good Calories/Bad Calories by Taubes is also an excellent source if you want to see the Govt./Food industry collaboration over the last 50 years.
I personally have way more energy and feel significantly lighter when I’ve avoided carbs for a few days. I also sleep better.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.
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