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Do you really think this will benefit the insurance companies? The last I heard, was that the insurance industry is fighting the bill.

They are fighting anything that will prevent them from doing business as usual or anything that will lower their payout from uncle sam. They definitely want a healthcare bill, since it will force more people to purchase their useless insurance. They just don’t want anything in the bill that will make them have to pay claims or actually provide a useful service.

[blahblahblah]

Do you really think this will benefit the insurance companies? The last I heard, was that the insurance industry is fighting the bill.

They are fighting anything that will prevent them from doing business as usual or anything that will lower their payout from uncle sam. They definitely want a healthcare bill, since it will force more people to purchase their useless insurance. They just don’t want anything in the bill that will make them have to pay claims or actually provide a useful service.

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Something else to consider: When in the history of this country has the government ever compelled its citizenry to comply with an order (buy health insurance) or face fines/sanctions? This is as authoritarian/autocratic as it comes and very few people seem all that outraged by this.

Let’s see:

1) Purchase auto insurance or face fines.

2) Pay state/federal income taxes or face fines and or jail.

3) Pay property taxes or face fines.

4) When the draft is active, join military service or face fines and or jail.

I can go on and on but I won’t.

Not saying this healthcare bill is good. It isn’t, it’s just a giveaway to the insurance companies and isn’t going to help anyone get better care.

We are all doomed.

Return to your discussion.

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Something else to consider: When in the history of this country has the government ever compelled its citizenry to comply with an order (buy health insurance) or face fines/sanctions? This is as authoritarian/autocratic as it comes and very few people seem all that outraged by this.

Let’s see:

1) Purchase auto insurance or face fines.

2) Pay state/federal income taxes or face fines and or jail.

3) Pay property taxes or face fines.

4) When the draft is active, join military service or face fines and or jail.

I can go on and on but I won’t.

Not saying this healthcare bill is good. It isn’t, it’s just a giveaway to the insurance companies and isn’t going to help anyone get better care.

We are all doomed.

Return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

Something else to consider: When in the history of this country has the government ever compelled its citizenry to comply with an order (buy health insurance) or face fines/sanctions? This is as authoritarian/autocratic as it comes and very few people seem all that outraged by this.

Let’s see:

1) Purchase auto insurance or face fines.

2) Pay state/federal income taxes or face fines and or jail.

3) Pay property taxes or face fines.

4) When the draft is active, join military service or face fines and or jail.

I can go on and on but I won’t.

Not saying this healthcare bill is good. It isn’t, it’s just a giveaway to the insurance companies and isn’t going to help anyone get better care.

We are all doomed.

Return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

Something else to consider: When in the history of this country has the government ever compelled its citizenry to comply with an order (buy health insurance) or face fines/sanctions? This is as authoritarian/autocratic as it comes and very few people seem all that outraged by this.

Let’s see:

1) Purchase auto insurance or face fines.

2) Pay state/federal income taxes or face fines and or jail.

3) Pay property taxes or face fines.

4) When the draft is active, join military service or face fines and or jail.

I can go on and on but I won’t.

Not saying this healthcare bill is good. It isn’t, it’s just a giveaway to the insurance companies and isn’t going to help anyone get better care.

We are all doomed.

Return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

Something else to consider: When in the history of this country has the government ever compelled its citizenry to comply with an order (buy health insurance) or face fines/sanctions? This is as authoritarian/autocratic as it comes and very few people seem all that outraged by this.

Let’s see:

1) Purchase auto insurance or face fines.

2) Pay state/federal income taxes or face fines and or jail.

3) Pay property taxes or face fines.

4) When the draft is active, join military service or face fines and or jail.

I can go on and on but I won’t.

Not saying this healthcare bill is good. It isn’t, it’s just a giveaway to the insurance companies and isn’t going to help anyone get better care.

We are all doomed.

Return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

All I know is that if there are any problems in this country, I had nothing to do with them. They are all someone else’s fault. So if the American auto industry is in trouble, it clearly has nothing to do with the fact that I drive Japanese.

I suspect it may be the fault of unions. Or democrats. Or perhaps socialists, I don’t know but it’s got to be one of those groups I saw something on TV about that one time.

That is all, return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

All I know is that if there are any problems in this country, I had nothing to do with them. They are all someone else’s fault. So if the American auto industry is in trouble, it clearly has nothing to do with the fact that I drive Japanese.

I suspect it may be the fault of unions. Or democrats. Or perhaps socialists, I don’t know but it’s got to be one of those groups I saw something on TV about that one time.

That is all, return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

All I know is that if there are any problems in this country, I had nothing to do with them. They are all someone else’s fault. So if the American auto industry is in trouble, it clearly has nothing to do with the fact that I drive Japanese.

I suspect it may be the fault of unions. Or democrats. Or perhaps socialists, I don’t know but it’s got to be one of those groups I saw something on TV about that one time.

That is all, return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

All I know is that if there are any problems in this country, I had nothing to do with them. They are all someone else’s fault. So if the American auto industry is in trouble, it clearly has nothing to do with the fact that I drive Japanese.

I suspect it may be the fault of unions. Or democrats. Or perhaps socialists, I don’t know but it’s got to be one of those groups I saw something on TV about that one time.

That is all, return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

All I know is that if there are any problems in this country, I had nothing to do with them. They are all someone else’s fault. So if the American auto industry is in trouble, it clearly has nothing to do with the fact that I drive Japanese.

I suspect it may be the fault of unions. Or democrats. Or perhaps socialists, I don’t know but it’s got to be one of those groups I saw something on TV about that one time.

That is all, return to your discussion.

[blahblahblah]

First the people who have private health insurance (middle class salaried folks who vote) don’t want any change or are very afraid of change.

Second, Americans are addicted to expensive medications and costly tests which are generally unnecessary.

Third, saving money on healthcare means cutting people’s incomes (those who work in health care). That reduces economic turnover and wealth. If you suddenly eliminate 1/2 the health care industry, you eliminate a substantial portion of GDP.

Good summary. It’s basically the same situation as in “Idiocracy” where the economy collapses after they stop spraying Brawndo on the crops. Everything you need to understand the world today can be found in that film.

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First the people who have private health insurance (middle class salaried folks who vote) don’t want any change or are very afraid of change.

Second, Americans are addicted to expensive medications and costly tests which are generally unnecessary.

Third, saving money on healthcare means cutting people’s incomes (those who work in health care). That reduces economic turnover and wealth. If you suddenly eliminate 1/2 the health care industry, you eliminate a substantial portion of GDP.

Good summary. It’s basically the same situation as in “Idiocracy” where the economy collapses after they stop spraying Brawndo on the crops. Everything you need to understand the world today can be found in that film.

[blahblahblah]

First the people who have private health insurance (middle class salaried folks who vote) don’t want any change or are very afraid of change.

Second, Americans are addicted to expensive medications and costly tests which are generally unnecessary.

Third, saving money on healthcare means cutting people’s incomes (those who work in health care). That reduces economic turnover and wealth. If you suddenly eliminate 1/2 the health care industry, you eliminate a substantial portion of GDP.

Good summary. It’s basically the same situation as in “Idiocracy” where the economy collapses after they stop spraying Brawndo on the crops. Everything you need to understand the world today can be found in that film.

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