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Interesting methodology. Five-year moving avg would give even better results:
http://www.globalinsight.com/gcpath/HousingMethodology.pdf

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Interesting methodology. Five-year moving avg would give even better results:
http://www.globalinsight.com/gcpath/HousingMethodology.pdf

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Interesting methodology. Five-year moving avg would give even better results:
http://www.globalinsight.com/gcpath/HousingMethodology.pdf

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Interesting methodology. Five-year moving avg would give even better results:
http://www.globalinsight.com/gcpath/HousingMethodology.pdf

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Interesting methodology. Five-year moving avg would give even better results:
http://www.globalinsight.com/gcpath/HousingMethodology.pdf

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[quote=CA renter]
If any of the complainers think these employees are overpaid and underworked, by all means…step up to the plate.

What’s funny is that police and fire departments couldn’t find enough qualified candidates during the boom times. [/quote]

‘Qualified’ being the keyword.

[quote=CA renter]
The nature of these jobs (very specialized training that cannot be transferred from jobs outside of these sectors), and the costs required to recruit and train new employees, means the govt employers cannot afford a high turnover rate. They need people who will stay there through the ups and downs of the economic cycles. That means they’ll appear underpaid during the good times, and overpaid during the bad times.[/quote]

Bull.

How many years of training would a returning veteran need to learn how to put out a fire?
The government can train a 17-year old dropout to kill people using very expensive equipment in several weeks, yet it cannot teach him how to handle a hose?

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[quote=CA renter]
If any of the complainers think these employees are overpaid and underworked, by all means…step up to the plate.

What’s funny is that police and fire departments couldn’t find enough qualified candidates during the boom times. [/quote]

‘Qualified’ being the keyword.

[quote=CA renter]
The nature of these jobs (very specialized training that cannot be transferred from jobs outside of these sectors), and the costs required to recruit and train new employees, means the govt employers cannot afford a high turnover rate. They need people who will stay there through the ups and downs of the economic cycles. That means they’ll appear underpaid during the good times, and overpaid during the bad times.[/quote]

Bull.

How many years of training would a returning veteran need to learn how to put out a fire?
The government can train a 17-year old dropout to kill people using very expensive equipment in several weeks, yet it cannot teach him how to handle a hose?

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[quote=CA renter]
If any of the complainers think these employees are overpaid and underworked, by all means…step up to the plate.

What’s funny is that police and fire departments couldn’t find enough qualified candidates during the boom times. [/quote]

‘Qualified’ being the keyword.

[quote=CA renter]
The nature of these jobs (very specialized training that cannot be transferred from jobs outside of these sectors), and the costs required to recruit and train new employees, means the govt employers cannot afford a high turnover rate. They need people who will stay there through the ups and downs of the economic cycles. That means they’ll appear underpaid during the good times, and overpaid during the bad times.[/quote]

Bull.

How many years of training would a returning veteran need to learn how to put out a fire?
The government can train a 17-year old dropout to kill people using very expensive equipment in several weeks, yet it cannot teach him how to handle a hose?

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[quote=CA renter]
If any of the complainers think these employees are overpaid and underworked, by all means…step up to the plate.

What’s funny is that police and fire departments couldn’t find enough qualified candidates during the boom times. [/quote]

‘Qualified’ being the keyword.

[quote=CA renter]
The nature of these jobs (very specialized training that cannot be transferred from jobs outside of these sectors), and the costs required to recruit and train new employees, means the govt employers cannot afford a high turnover rate. They need people who will stay there through the ups and downs of the economic cycles. That means they’ll appear underpaid during the good times, and overpaid during the bad times.[/quote]

Bull.

How many years of training would a returning veteran need to learn how to put out a fire?
The government can train a 17-year old dropout to kill people using very expensive equipment in several weeks, yet it cannot teach him how to handle a hose?

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[quote=CA renter]
If any of the complainers think these employees are overpaid and underworked, by all means…step up to the plate.

What’s funny is that police and fire departments couldn’t find enough qualified candidates during the boom times. [/quote]

‘Qualified’ being the keyword.

[quote=CA renter]
The nature of these jobs (very specialized training that cannot be transferred from jobs outside of these sectors), and the costs required to recruit and train new employees, means the govt employers cannot afford a high turnover rate. They need people who will stay there through the ups and downs of the economic cycles. That means they’ll appear underpaid during the good times, and overpaid during the bad times.[/quote]

Bull.

How many years of training would a returning veteran need to learn how to put out a fire?
The government can train a 17-year old dropout to kill people using very expensive equipment in several weeks, yet it cannot teach him how to handle a hose?

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[quote=UCGal][quote=LarryTheRenter]A sole proprieter would have to have a 2 million dollar retirement fund which yields 6% per year which would get you the $10,000 per month..

So obviuosly the fireman/woman didnt kick in this much him/herself…it is the taxpayers that are getting bled.[/quote]

A sole proprietor often has equity in the business that they can sell/cash out when they retire.

I’ve seen it happen a lot. Build a business – sell it, retire on the proceeds.[/quote]

Or more likely, invest time and money, see the business fail.

The risks of termination/failure with public employment are minimal. You cannot claim job safety as a replacement for the lower compensation, and then defend $100K guaranteed pension (paid medical for life include?) with CEO pay.

Or you can.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=LarryTheRenter]A sole proprieter would have to have a 2 million dollar retirement fund which yields 6% per year which would get you the $10,000 per month..

So obviuosly the fireman/woman didnt kick in this much him/herself…it is the taxpayers that are getting bled.[/quote]

A sole proprietor often has equity in the business that they can sell/cash out when they retire.

I’ve seen it happen a lot. Build a business – sell it, retire on the proceeds.[/quote]

Or more likely, invest time and money, see the business fail.

The risks of termination/failure with public employment are minimal. You cannot claim job safety as a replacement for the lower compensation, and then defend $100K guaranteed pension (paid medical for life include?) with CEO pay.

Or you can.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=LarryTheRenter]A sole proprieter would have to have a 2 million dollar retirement fund which yields 6% per year which would get you the $10,000 per month..

So obviuosly the fireman/woman didnt kick in this much him/herself…it is the taxpayers that are getting bled.[/quote]

A sole proprietor often has equity in the business that they can sell/cash out when they retire.

I’ve seen it happen a lot. Build a business – sell it, retire on the proceeds.[/quote]

Or more likely, invest time and money, see the business fail.

The risks of termination/failure with public employment are minimal. You cannot claim job safety as a replacement for the lower compensation, and then defend $100K guaranteed pension (paid medical for life include?) with CEO pay.

Or you can.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=LarryTheRenter]A sole proprieter would have to have a 2 million dollar retirement fund which yields 6% per year which would get you the $10,000 per month..

So obviuosly the fireman/woman didnt kick in this much him/herself…it is the taxpayers that are getting bled.[/quote]

A sole proprietor often has equity in the business that they can sell/cash out when they retire.

I’ve seen it happen a lot. Build a business – sell it, retire on the proceeds.[/quote]

Or more likely, invest time and money, see the business fail.

The risks of termination/failure with public employment are minimal. You cannot claim job safety as a replacement for the lower compensation, and then defend $100K guaranteed pension (paid medical for life include?) with CEO pay.

Or you can.

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[quote=UCGal][quote=LarryTheRenter]A sole proprieter would have to have a 2 million dollar retirement fund which yields 6% per year which would get you the $10,000 per month..

So obviuosly the fireman/woman didnt kick in this much him/herself…it is the taxpayers that are getting bled.[/quote]

A sole proprietor often has equity in the business that they can sell/cash out when they retire.

I’ve seen it happen a lot. Build a business – sell it, retire on the proceeds.[/quote]

Or more likely, invest time and money, see the business fail.

The risks of termination/failure with public employment are minimal. You cannot claim job safety as a replacement for the lower compensation, and then defend $100K guaranteed pension (paid medical for life include?) with CEO pay.

Or you can.

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