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I just called and the commissary at 32nd St NAVSTA SD has opened back up for regular business hours beginning this morning. That’s good news.

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[quote=spdrun]Only on Piggington does a thread about Carnegie Hall employees turn into a flamewar about cops. *sigh*![/quote]

No, spdrun, the thread was just another tired jab at unions, this time Local One of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees in NY. I notice that XBoxBoy, who started the thread hasn’t contributed to it.

The reality is that Piggs, such as CE, who stated here that he has to “supervise” union workers (because they’re stupid and lazy??) and a few others very likely have “union envy.” They don’t like the deals that unions make for their workers and think it’s unfair to non-union workers yet they state they won’t belong to a union themselves. CE has in the past stated here a few times (on threads bashing unions, of course) that he could have been in law enforcement (almost always unionized) and he had all of the qualifications for the job, but in the end, he chose not to pursue this line of work.

It’s an old and tired subject here, but alas, it’s the law. Most of the state law in this area is modeled directly from Federal law. In laymen’s terms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Labor_Relations_Act

When I post on these threads that it’s the law, the same Piggs just keep on with their tired rant about pay, benefits, pensions, etc of union members. When I suggest they take action for legislative reform and suggest ways to begin doing so, they all fall away like dominos.

I guess its easier to put your head in the sand and take it out intermittently to complain than to try to do anything about it.

So there you have it. A handful of executives employed at New York’s Carnegie Hall (gasp … is there actually such a thing as blue collar executives?) are making low to mid-six figures annually in apparently high-priced NYC (acc to SK) and it somehow turns into fodder for the same anti-union rhetoric by the same whiners.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

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[quote=CDMA ENG]You had it coming as well.

As for my writing…

I do write in a unconvential manner and have worked on it for years. Agian I have things I would rather do than cut and paste from Word back to this blog to ensure I am being loud and clear.

You are insulting and you mask it in a lanuage that is condescending.

I am sure that there is a long line of people as the military is downsizing and those kind of jobs are in demand with ex-military. I still take expection to the fact you think a lot of us can’t hack it.

You are wrong.

I stand by my original comments.

CE[/quote]

FWIW, I almost never cut and paste for this blog unless I have had to do some research days before posting and need to save it.

I write everything ON the blog itself.

Almost 100% of the time I have used spell-check, it has found nothing or 1-2 typos on even a 30+ pg document.

This doesn’t make me a “better person” but writing just happens to be my forte. I do it naturally, just like a person who has a natural singing voice (I don’t, lol). Everyone has their talents and writing just happens to be one of mine.

And I don’t have “white collar envy,” as you state as I consider myself to be “white collar.” (Not that blue-collar occupations are somehow less important than what you or I do.)

If you think I’m condescending, then you must either have thin skin or a chip on your shoulder, since that has never been my intention. I can’t do anything about this but if either of these things are true, you are probably posting on the wrong blog. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen misogynistic types attempt to rake me over the coals on this forum. Isn’t that part of the package here?

Carry on . . .

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CE, I think you might be be confusing me with other Piggs. I seldom ever regurgitate anything from the web unless I am furnishing links to the law or I am trying to answer a question for myself.

I would much rather ask an “expert” on the street and get the straight scoop, as I did on this thread today … with spdrun.

I’ve spent a very large portion of my working life reading police reports, many lengthy, and can honestly say that the vast majority of law enforcement officers were VERY literate. And all of these reports were before they had access to laptops in vehicles. They were handwritten on a clipboard or back at their desks in block printing. Report writing is a major component of a law enforcement officer’s duties and is highly scrutinized by their superior(s). Of course, it is one of the main criteria in judging a recruit’s fitness for duty at a POST Academy.

I’m glad to hear you like your job and have software at work to help you out with your administrative duties. Even if an inability to write coherently stems from dyslexia (I’m not saying you are, but I have known several attorneys to be), this has no bearing on intelligence level or job ability. It is okay. These dyslexic attorneys can read their own notes and address the court just fine (and they have people like me to write their papers).

It’s just that law enforcement personnel are held to a higher standard in this regard, regardless of their other job attributes. Any f-ups they make are often seen by multiple agencies, attorneys, judges, even news media and the list goes on. Many of them are involuntarily subpoenaed to the stand so often, some of them may as well have a permanent seat outside the courtroom with their name on it. Every single thing they do reflects back on their agency and they often find themselves in situations where they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. It isn’t for everybody and most people don’t have the temperament for this kind of work.

I’m not stating here that I think everything law enforcement does is right. I’m saying that there is a WHOLE LOT MORE to the job than just being able to get through the obstacle course at the POST Academy. LOTS of people (like yourself) “think” they could do it and could last in the job long enough to eventually get a decent pension but the reality is that only a small percentage get hired as POST graduates because they fail at the interview levels … including at the medical evaluation and lengthy psych evaluation.

As CAR has posted here several times, the training curve for ONE urban law enforcement officer (or CHP/fire personnel in any locale) in CA is long, arduous and expensive for the employing agency. These agencies aren’t going to make a mistake by hiring the wrong person for a particular job as they always have plenty of candidates to pick from.

I see here that you are taking everything personally but you had it coming to you when you told me to “shove it.”

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spdrun, how much does an adult monthly subway pass cost in Manhattan?

And SK, I have never bought 16 rolls at a time of paper towels in my life. I just buy ONE at a time and go thru 2-3 rolls per yr (yes, even when I had kids at home). Being able to “stock up” while living in a 675 sf unit in the middle of a city is not a necessity. Believe it or not, there is a Costco, Trader Joes, Bed Bath & Beyond, Office Depot, Ikea, Best Buy, and other various and sundry “big box” stores in SF, as well as a large indoor mall plus all the (flagship) dept stores in Union Square. Many of the “big box” stores are not in plain view because they are partially or completely underground :=] There is even a Safeway and I think a former Lucky-Market-turned-Albertsons in or just north of the Sunset District. In any case, a SF resident can drive down the peninsula or across a bridge once a month or more and shop anyplace they wish in order to “stock up.” It’s no big deal.

I haven’t checked but I’m sure many of these same retailers are available in NYC. For one or two people living in a 675 sf unit (like SK’s listing), I don’t see how or why they would need to “stock up” while living in the middle of everything. WHO CARES? And how many burners on the stove is enough? Will a “kitchenette” with two burners and four sf of counter space do? Who the h@ll cares about such things when they are living on one of the nicest streets in the city just a ~5 minute-or-less walk from the lake at Central Park?

Trust me, if I lived on the upper east side of Manhattan, NYC, the last thing I would be “worried about” would be whether I was going to run out of paper towels … or not.

That is not the type of apt for more than two people to live comfortably so I don’t see how its possible lack of a “standard kitchen” is a huge negative. It’s not the type of unit to raise two or more kids in.

FWIW, LOTS of dtn SD apts (Banker’s Hill/Golden Hill) are 85+ yrs old and have one small sink in the kitchen and room for only a 14 cubic ft (or less) refrigerator.

You’re right, SK. It’s a different lifestyle in NYC than SD (not appreciably different than living in a dtn SD apt or condo, though). Whether or not living in NYC is actually a better or worse lifestyle than living in SD is in the eye of the beholder.

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And paramount, you must know that if your car actually really needs a new battery to clear that electrical code, this is only a $75 – $100 problem and the connectors are $6-$12 each.

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[quote=6packscaredy]according to godwin’s law, this thread really should end witha nazi reference.

as a jew, I would never buy a german car. that’s not a universally held position. but I would not. i don’t trust them.[/quote]

How’s your *new* Honda running, scaredy??

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[quote=paramount]Thanks BG…

I have a fairly advanced OBD II reader, and a really good idea what the problems are…

1. The cooling system is shot (water pump/thermostat)
2. Electrical problems related to the battery

Not to mention all (4) brakes are history ($1500 + on a BMW) – I could do this myself…

I should have bought the Avalon.

Well, at least I got it out of my system.[/quote]

Although you might have gotten more “bells and whistles” with the Avalon for the same money, I don’t think the problems you mention here are that great or are insurmountable. Avalons periodically need brakes, too and they run $700 to $900 all around.

If you can install the brakes yourself and none of your rotors need machining, then do the job and then take it into a reputable German auto mechanic. Let them check your newly-installed brakes and water pump and install a water pump and thermostat (if needed) and do a flush and fill of the radiator and lines (if needed) and then test it with OBD II again. (It seems kind of young to me to need a water pump.) Then have THEM take it the THEIR preferred “Test only” station to get you a certificate.

This is all well worth it. Your car is just a toddler. It should run another $200K miles without needing major work (exc timing belt, brakes, etc and all the usual maintenance stuff). I don’t know why you would want to dump it at a loss. All vehicles cost money to keep running properly.

The CA DMV has been cracking down Big Time on older vehicles for a few years now (except those vehicles legally considered “Antiques”) and have stepped up their “inspection criteria” of what constitutes a biennial “smog check.” The state is obviously attempting to make it really hard for Joe and Suzy 6pack to keep driving their $2-$6K vehicles to work and back.

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Of course, Pigg flu is the expert on this subject but I think you should start off by having all your codes read by an impartial (NOT smog shop) OBD II reader. Some of your codes may be nothing or just indicate a cheap sensor needs replacing. Also, if you have been taking it to a regular garage, THEY should be able to honestly and properly diagnose it, fix what needs fixing as cheap as possible, clear the codes from it and take it to THEIR smog shop to get a certificate.

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you take it to a “Test and Repair” smog station. They are generally ripoffs and can and will fvck with your car just to show you a report that it didn’t pass so they can “repair” it for X hundreds/thousands of dollars and pass you. If your vehicle has been flagged by the DMV for a Star Station smog test, there are Star Stations which are “Test Only.” You should have your regular German auto mechanic take it to one of those stations, NOT you. They do biz with them on a regular basis and likely WILL get it passed after adjusting/fixing whatever is necessary.

Having had several older cars in my life, I understand how the “system” works. My current vehicle is nearly 20 years old, runs like a champ and the CA DMV has been trying to get vehicles the age of mine off the road for a few years now.

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[quote=SK in CV]BG, sometimes I think you just pull numbers out of your backside. Most SF jobs don’t pay 45% more than SD. It’s more like 15 to 20% more, with the cost of living differential just a couple % more.[/quote]

My own kid(s) are currently making 40-45% more in SF than they ever could in SD County. In addition, employees there are promoted faster, often MUCH faster than they would be in SD County.

As you know, SD has a porous int’l border and there are too many people (Americans and Mexicans alike) willing to work for less in SD because they can live much cheaper in MX and commute to work every day on a Sentri Pass. You might be shocked to learn that many of these daily int’l commuters are actually doctors, dentists, lawyers, other professionals and various para-professionals. They are NOT all gardeners, busboys and dishwashers as is a common belief.

In addition, there are still 2-3 dozen mobile home/manufactured home parks which allow families (under age 55) to reside in them in all areas of SD County except dtn SD and close-in metro communities. SF Bay area doesn’t have those unless a SF/SV worker who lives in one is willing to cross an east-west bridge every day and commute another 20++ miles east after that, making their daily commute close to 3 hrs RT.

In numerous SF bay area cities, mobile home parks have been long banned, and, in any case, the land there is too valuable to bother with trying to manage one. In at least a dozen Peninsula cities, there haven’t been any residential building permits issued (except for a major remodel of 1-4 units) in 10-20 years.

In short, there are far more nontraditional housing alternatives available in SD County than in SF and the Bay area and all of these “affordable” communities have workers in residence who can afford to work for less and do and will continue to do so until they retire because they are not going anywhere.

Then there is the ever-present “sunshine tax” in SD County, as Pigg ER has so eloquently posted here a few times. Unlike the strong winds in the SF peninsula frequently blowing up against the Santa Cruz mtn range, SD has a balmy breeze, more beaches and warmer water 11 mos out of the year. The mantra of SD employers is, “This is what we pay. If you don’t like the salary here, you are welcome to look for a position elsewhere.”

Even local city/county job payscales for the close-in SF Bay Area are 20-50% higher than SD County for the same or similar classifications. I’ve posted them here before for SF and a couple of surrounding counties but of course, this was before Vallejo went BK and the public outrage of city/county pension levels.

[quote=SK in CV]The cost of living in NY is much as 30 to 75% more than SD. Salary differential varies but most sources have it as about 10 to 20%.[/quote]

SK, besides not including cable TV/internet expense and not knowing if your $450K listing has an underground pkg space, why do you think the cost of living in NYC is 30-75% higher than SD?

I don’t know but I’m surmising that water/sewer and trash pickup expense is included in NYC co-op dues because spdrun stated that the rest of the (necessary) utilities typically are.

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[quote=spdrun]Why are dues much higher…?

They almost always include:
(1) Heat
(2) Hot water
(3) Gas
(4) Water

They sometimes include electricity, especially in older buildings built with no electrical submetering.

Co-op dues also include property taxes, which are unfortunately higher than those for single-family up to three-family brownstones. Tax on apartments ends to be about 1% of value as opposed to 1/5 that for brownstones, though the formula is based on rental price and other factors, not sale price.

Lastly … you’re dealing with much older buildings which require more upkeep than your typical 1970s condo development in San Diego. Maybe the most apt comparison would be the El-Cortez Hotel Condos in San Diego, which also has pretty high HOA dues.[/quote]

Ahh, yes, thank you, spdrun. If we compare the monthly expenses (besides monthly principal and interest, if applicable) of a typical NYC co-op with a dtn SD condo (both ~$450K and ~675 sf):

Dtn SD condo typically has:

-Interior insurance premium: $35
-Gas portion of SDG&E: $20
-Electric portion of SDG&E: $30
-Cable internet/TV/landline phone: $140 (w/2 yr contract)
-HOA dues: $365 (avg)
-Taxes/12 mos: $439
(SD water/sewer & trash p/u paid by HOA)

Total $1029 mo.

NYC condo featured in SK’s listing has:

-Interior insurance premium: $35
-Co-op dues: $1013

Total $1048 mo.

I believe we still have a cable company monopoly in dtn SD (Cox) and for those buildings on streets w/o fibre optic and/or too old (and expensive) to retrofit for cable, we have a choice of ATT U-verse (DSL and Dish) and perhaps a couple of small, obscure providers.

spdrun, do you know if cable internet/phone/landline service typically included in NYC co-op monthly dues? I know of one complex here which has always had cable TV included in their dues (Marina Park). Its dues were about $265 month upon opening in 1982-ish and I have no idea how much they are today. I believe Brittany Tower (circa 1984-ish – north side of Laurel street) also has cable included in its mo dues.

What about at least one underground parking space per unit (as SD dtn condos have)?

And I’m sure a few condo complexes in dtn SD (with $450K units) have HOA dues of up to $600 month and/or stagger the cost of monthly dues upon the size of unit. Since there have been so many units built down there in the last ten years or so, I don’t know how many of them today have TV/cable internet expense built into their HOA dues.

I’m trying to compare apples-to-apples living costs here between urban (mainly dtn) SD and NYC and I’m really not sure they’re that much different for the bottom 95%. Yet the salaries in NY (as in SF) are MUCH higher than SD for the same position. And, of course, there aren’t as many jobs in as many fields available in or near dtn SD as there are in Manhattan, NYC. So we may have to factor in commuting costs (by private vehicle) for a portion of dtn SD residents who are still working (not yet “retired”). In SD, it isn’t very practical to ride the trolley and/or bus(es) more than ten miles for a one-way trip as it would take far too long to arrive at most destinations due to transfer glitches and service cuts.

A lot of people shun SF as a place to live due to perceived cost but if you own your bldg or unit outright (or lease a rent-controlled unit), it isn’t any more expensive than doing same in SD and in many cases is probably cheaper than your expenses would be if you owned a comparable dtn SD unit outright. This is mainly due to size because most of the apts in SF are considered “flats” (take up a whole floor) and are over ~1600 sf. When you factor in the ultra cheap transportation available there which coordinates like clockwork with each other (bus/cable car/streetcar) and the fact that comparable jobs there pay ~45% more than SD, the cost of living there seems much more reasonable. This doesn’t even include other tangible employer benefits (such as 401K funds-matching at a higher salary point) and the fact that employees there can put on their resumes $XX as their last salary (in SF) vs. $X as their last salary (in SD) which makes them seem more “valuable” to the next employer.

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[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]My (armchair) experience with NY’s upper east side (spacious) flats/apts (co-ops?) was from the pages of Architectural Digest, lol. Its depicted “remodeled” apts appeared to be 2200 to 3600 sf (avg of abt 2500-2600 sf). The views from most of the windows were spectacular, as I recall.

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You may not realize it, but that kind of square footage is huge for anywhere in the city. 300 to 500 sq foot 1br or less apartments are more common, and even those sell for $700/sq foot and up. >2,000 sq foot is more often closer to $1,000/sq ft and up. And maintenance fees of over $1,000/mo. even in those smaller units are not uncommon. It really isn’t anything like the SD market.

I spent a few minutes looking and this one doesn’t seem atypical.

http://www.trulia.com/property/3130465039-123-E-88th-St-2C-New-York-NY-10128

675 sq ft
$450K
Monthy fee: $1,013
Needs renovation[/quote]

SK, it is possible that since I was looking at NY apts featured in Architectural Digest that they are “flats” which were formerly two or more units (or take up a whole floor in a bldg, like the typical “flat” in SF). In that magazine, the NY apts featured were all heavily remodeled and redecorated professionally by their well-known affluent New Yorker and celebrity owners from all over the world … ALL very deep-pocketed and who didn’t live there or even move in until the work was completed to their liking. A couple of NY apts I remember seeing in there in the last year-plus were owned by Beyonce/Jay-Z and Anne Hathaway, as I recall.

Your listing link is undoubtedly much more representative of what a typical worker-bee who owns a residence on the upper east side would own and live in. And it is still very nice … nicer than a dtn SD condo in the same price range in that its hardwood floors and walls are original oak (or mahogany) and plaster. Maybe your listing is referring to a needed kitchen or bathroom remodel because it doesn’t show any pictures of those areas. From the photos, I don’t see where it needs extensive renovation as it says in the description.

The $64M question is, “Why are the (HOA?/Co-op?) monthly dues 100-150% higher in Manhattan than for a similarly-situated urban unit in SD?” I’m also wondering what is included in a typical owned NY apt’s monthly dues.

Any answers? spdrun?

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[quote=ucodegen][quote=no_such_reality]Did you hear that? That was Gloria cash register clocking up another major payday.

Why? Well, the PD was present. An off duty cop was part of the bike group, did nothing and failed to report the incident until Wednesday! Chaching![/quote]That sounds like Allred. Blame the police for not protecting criminals from the consequences of their own bad behavior.[/quote]

WOW, I didn’t know that Allred had a license to practice in NY!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/celeb-attorney-allred-work-new-york-article-1.1467977

She apparently was “sworn in” to the NY bar on Wednesday 9/25/13 and the Lien/MC mob incident occurred on Sunday 9/29/13. How convenient!

Am I missing something … except for the fact that Allred is able to get around to where she smells a prospective ($$$) “action” fairly expediently?

What was the reason she sought the right to practice in NY state?

Ohhh, I see now:

…Allred has several cases in New York, including representing more than two dozen people who say they were sexually abused at the elite Horace Mann School. She said she previously received temporary permission to argue cases in the state and joining the bar seemed like a natural next step….

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-27/rights-lawyer-allred-joins-n-y-bar-business-of-law.html

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[quote=spdrun]Really difficult to answer this. I’d say on average, costs other than housing in NYC are 1.25-1.5x those of San Diego.

“Normal” housing in Manhattan (i.e. not condos bought by magnates and Russian heiresses) is probably 3-6x as expensive per sq ft than San Diego, depending on whether you rent or buy, but most people don’t have as much square footage, simple as that.

Housing in convenient/nice parts of NJ is actually about the same as San Diego as far as monthly nut if you buy. Higher taxes in general (with a few exceptions that I won’t advertise to vultures here 🙂 ), but lower purchase price per sq ft.

$400k would probably mean $250k take home after taxes. You could do pretty nicely with this, the more if you bought housing 20 years ago when it was cheap and have it mostly paid off by this point. Those are stagehands in the sense of senior management, not errand boys after all — they’re probably been there a while 🙂

If those people bought a brownstone in what used to be a bad area of Brooklyn for a few hundred thou 20 years ago, it may be worth north of a mill now, and they’ll still be paying $200/mo in property tax (property tax for houses in the city is actually super cheap).

I’m not sure if this really answers anyone’s question, because the NY area is so damn diverse that it all depends where exactly one chooses to live. And moving a mile in one direction or another can result in a significant difference in costs.

Upper East Side — it’s actually cheaper than some trendier areas of Manhattan these days. It’s never been trendy, it has only one subway line (changing ca. 2015-6) and it’s considered a bit of an older area. And there’s a big difference between what’s west of Park Ave and what’s east of 2nd or 3rd Ave as well.[/quote]

Thank you for your expertise, spdrun. From your post, I take it that the majority of Manhattan and close-in burrough residents live in smaller quarters than similarly-situated residents (those with similar demographics) of SD County. Of course, due to age and likely being built out many decades (or even >100 yrs) ago, there likely aren’t any 2500 – 4500 sf “mcmansions” there to choose from which are typical of those built in SD County in the last 15 yrs or so. So NYC residents are used to living in smaller quarters than CA residents (especially suburban and exurban CA residents). This doesn’t make them any less valuable, just smaller, just as smaller houses within a few miles of dtn SD cost just as much or more than many larger houses located 20+ miles away. Because of their small size, they do not generally attract too many Gen Y and younger Gen X buyers in SD, that is, unless the buyer has relatives living nearby. Because, unlike NYC, SD County worker-bee buyers DO have the choice to move out into suburbia and exurbia without crossing one or more (crowded) bridges twice daily into/out of another county or state. SD County buyers often get 2-3 times the space in an outlying area for the same price as an urban dwelling.

I find it interesting that property taxes on a typical Brooklyn brownstone are just ~$1200 annually. That has got to be a bargain as even if it is only 1500 sf, I seem to remember reading that they had basements.

My (armchair) experience with NY’s upper east side (spacious) flats/apts (co-ops?) was from the pages of Architectural Digest, lol. Its depicted “remodeled” apts appeared to be 2200 to 3600 sf (avg of abt 2500-2600 sf). The views from most of the windows were spectacular, as I recall.

I’ve never been to NYC (or NY, for that matter) but have helped send each of my kids to NYC on school trips (one twice). Maybe I’ll visit someday and have one or more of THEM show me all the tourist sites 🙂

It seems that the “culture” of a typical New Yorker is to be content with living in less space and there is nothing wrong with that. I’m sure other amenities they have outside their doorsteps which we don’t have here more than make up for that. And a family of 3 or 4 doesn’t need 3000 sf anyway, IMO.

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[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=tc]I am a union stagehand. And I find that to be unacceptable.
I can also assure everyone that reads this that the stagehands in the San Diego theaters make enough to take care of their families and pay for a mortgage on a small house and no more. And many of us work 60+ hours a week.
Also the average non-union stagehand earns $14 an hour with no retirement or healthcare. So when they end up in the ER guess who ends up paying the bill.
And on a final note next time you go to a concert and look up to the 140,000 pounds of equipment over your head. Who do you want hanging it? A person making just enough to share an apartment with a bunch of other drug attics or a guy who has a family and a home to take care of.[/quote]

I’d want YOU to install it over my head, tc, with all of the professionalism you have always demonstrated.

You’re probably aware that SD isn’t NY and the salaries here are a far cry from those in NYC, yet the cost of living here is the same or close to NYC.

Some of these jobs which are “unionized” no doubt look like a walk in the park to a lot of these Piggs who likely couldn’t possibly perform them themselves. Nor would they live in the “small (modest?) house” you bought with your “lavish” union wages.

Case in point: your $14 hr non-union counterpart whose family may be regularly utilizing SD’s emergency rooms who may or may not be doing the exact same job as you and likely doesn’t stay past a year on the job.

Thanks for posting, tc.[/quote]

I have done this exact job as a non-union memember (sic) in Las Vegas and I can tell you the Union Guys werent (sic) that good. In fact many times my team was called in to do the job when the unions guy (sic) weren’t getting it done fast enough cause “this guy can only do this and that guy can only do that bullshit”.

So don’t tell me that shit BG about many Piggs being incapable… It’s insulting to the point I have to say somethine (sic). Been there… done that… and stayed in school cause the jobs were a “nowhere” job and to expect anything more of it was ridiculous.

Stage rigging is not rocket science though I will admit it is tough work to turn a show in 24 hours and a certian (sic) degree of can-do and creativeness is required. That is true of any job.

And yes… they dont (sic) make that much money but I dont’ (sic) want to hear that bullshit comment “union guys do it better cause they are paid too.” Terrible arguement (sic) that continues to be brought up evey (sic) other minute on this site.

I am tired of your attitude concerning the white collar profesionals (sic) on this site. You have a case of white collar envy.

Most of us weren’t born with a silver spoon.

I came from a lower middle class broken home. I worked construction roofing houses three stories in the air. I worked for AD Scenery (if you want validation of my story). I have done all of those Dirty fucking jobs to get to where I am today as a degree’d (sic) engineer and I know a lot of ppl here went to the school of hard knock (sic) as well.

So for once get off your high fucking horse. If you had it so figured out, which you want ppl to think from your 1 page “googled” rants, why arent (sic) you suceeding more in life? Don’t tell us you are exactly where you want to be and doing what you want to do.

I could be a cop… or a firefighter… Plumber… or any other of these jobs… Why?!? Cause like I said I had to at on point in my life and knew that it was a stepping stone to another better job. I HAVE THE PYHSICAL (sic) APPITUDE (sic). I HAVE THE MENTAL AS WELL. As many ppl on this board do.

So stop making poor assumptions of other and saying stupid things.

I will do any job that I have to in order to make it in this world.

Right now, my job, as an engineer, is to tell union people and non-union people… how to do theirs…

Shove it.

CE[/quote](remarks/emphasis added)

I’m going to refrain here from telling YOU to “shove it,” CE, because I so very much enjoy “reading” your (very insightful and “telling”) posts.

You know that you and I have been down this road before …. at least once. Namely here:

[quote=CDMA ENG on May 11, 2012 – 4:30pm.] . . . And for the latest time… Everyone is fed up with “try it for yourself” arguement (sic)… I know I can do 99 percent of goverment (sic) jobs… I don’t need to tryi (sic) it. I’m a smart guy… Maybe not a treffic (sic) writer or speller because I am too lazy to put this in word (sic) first… But I could do police work, fire, administrator, planner, or whatever but I can say this… Most of those people couldn’t do my job.

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http://piggington.com/more_public_pension_loony_tunes_now_providence_ri_is_in_trouble#comment-209500

By your own admission, you fall down the rabbit hole in the “report-writing” category.

CE, I don’t have a red pen to use on here but I daresay that you wouldn’t have been able to even get through the POST academy for those public law-enforcement position(s) you (once?) aspired to because you obviously had/have rather glaring problems with spelling, sentence/word structure and punctuation. If you were not/are not able to write coherent reports (to be reviewed by your superiors) about each “incident” you were a party to for every shift, I’m here to tell you that you wouldn’t possibly be able to “make the grade.”

Oh, and, by the way, those daily “reports” are often written “on the fly” while sitting in a vehicle, with no time to repeatedly consult a dictionary, thesaurus or The Elements of Style.

No matter who your choice employing-agency was/is, multiple lawyers and judges could very likely see many of your reports and even show them to juries. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but law-enforcement hiring agencies cannot hire recruits who appear to be “borderline illiterate,” which, as public entities, would obviously reflect back onto them. Thus, these deficient recruits wouldn’t be able to finish the academy in the time allotted to do so.

For your sake, I hope you have use of a competent secretary with your current employer. It takes ~15-20 years on the job for a small portion of former law-enforcement recruits to obtain the use of professional secretarial services on the job (by being promoted 2-3 times). And this individual does NOT usually write their reports for them.

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Sorry for the hijack, tc. I couldn’t resist. Keep up the good work!

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