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I think that the most
Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on April 22, 2008 – 7:47am.

“I think that the most obviously overestimated thing in this calculation is taxes!!!

By my calculations, a renter family of 3 making 100K, contributing to 401K etc. will pay about 18500 USD in total taxes (Fed+CA+FICA+Med). (Not $25400 as suggested in the post.) That is about 7000 USD difference in take home pay which could influence rent/buy decisions.

Why? Because there is standard deduction, exemptions, child tax credit etc. in the tax code; so you almost need to fill out your tax form to find out how much the tax owed is. I have one excel spreadsheet that I optimized for my situation for this purpose.

Does anyone that fits the above situation, share with us if their taxes are closer to 18K or 25K? I wanted to see if there is any error in my spreadsheet.”

I don’t believe that the taxes are being overestimated. We are a renting family of three with a household income around 135K (single income). We were SHOCKED at how much we are paying in taxes now that we are CA residents. Everything included is around 40% out each month. Add in union dues, medical, 401k contribution, and our take home pay gets smaller and smaller! We’ll maybe get $2000 back at tax time as renters. When you don’t own your own business and don’t own a house, taxes are enormous.

We invest 10% of our gross to our IRAs and 401k, plus a fairly substantial percentage to increase our future down payment on a house. We also have funds for vacation and Christmas, and child’s college. Both of our cars are paid off and we have no debt. We are able to live modestly and still have some fun, but I would not feel comfortable buying a house that cost any more than 300K or so. Doing so would make us much tighter than I would wish to be, especially considering that child will be entering college sooner rather than later! Granted, I will return to work in a more full time capacity when kiddo goes off to school.

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I think that the most
Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on April 22, 2008 – 7:47am.

“I think that the most obviously overestimated thing in this calculation is taxes!!!

By my calculations, a renter family of 3 making 100K, contributing to 401K etc. will pay about 18500 USD in total taxes (Fed+CA+FICA+Med). (Not $25400 as suggested in the post.) That is about 7000 USD difference in take home pay which could influence rent/buy decisions.

Why? Because there is standard deduction, exemptions, child tax credit etc. in the tax code; so you almost need to fill out your tax form to find out how much the tax owed is. I have one excel spreadsheet that I optimized for my situation for this purpose.

Does anyone that fits the above situation, share with us if their taxes are closer to 18K or 25K? I wanted to see if there is any error in my spreadsheet.”

I don’t believe that the taxes are being overestimated. We are a renting family of three with a household income around 135K (single income). We were SHOCKED at how much we are paying in taxes now that we are CA residents. Everything included is around 40% out each month. Add in union dues, medical, 401k contribution, and our take home pay gets smaller and smaller! We’ll maybe get $2000 back at tax time as renters. When you don’t own your own business and don’t own a house, taxes are enormous.

We invest 10% of our gross to our IRAs and 401k, plus a fairly substantial percentage to increase our future down payment on a house. We also have funds for vacation and Christmas, and child’s college. Both of our cars are paid off and we have no debt. We are able to live modestly and still have some fun, but I would not feel comfortable buying a house that cost any more than 300K or so. Doing so would make us much tighter than I would wish to be, especially considering that child will be entering college sooner rather than later! Granted, I will return to work in a more full time capacity when kiddo goes off to school.

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I think that the most
Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on April 22, 2008 – 7:47am.

“I think that the most obviously overestimated thing in this calculation is taxes!!!

By my calculations, a renter family of 3 making 100K, contributing to 401K etc. will pay about 18500 USD in total taxes (Fed+CA+FICA+Med). (Not $25400 as suggested in the post.) That is about 7000 USD difference in take home pay which could influence rent/buy decisions.

Why? Because there is standard deduction, exemptions, child tax credit etc. in the tax code; so you almost need to fill out your tax form to find out how much the tax owed is. I have one excel spreadsheet that I optimized for my situation for this purpose.

Does anyone that fits the above situation, share with us if their taxes are closer to 18K or 25K? I wanted to see if there is any error in my spreadsheet.”

I don’t believe that the taxes are being overestimated. We are a renting family of three with a household income around 135K (single income). We were SHOCKED at how much we are paying in taxes now that we are CA residents. Everything included is around 40% out each month. Add in union dues, medical, 401k contribution, and our take home pay gets smaller and smaller! We’ll maybe get $2000 back at tax time as renters. When you don’t own your own business and don’t own a house, taxes are enormous.

We invest 10% of our gross to our IRAs and 401k, plus a fairly substantial percentage to increase our future down payment on a house. We also have funds for vacation and Christmas, and child’s college. Both of our cars are paid off and we have no debt. We are able to live modestly and still have some fun, but I would not feel comfortable buying a house that cost any more than 300K or so. Doing so would make us much tighter than I would wish to be, especially considering that child will be entering college sooner rather than later! Granted, I will return to work in a more full time capacity when kiddo goes off to school.

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I think that the most
Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on April 22, 2008 – 7:47am.

“I think that the most obviously overestimated thing in this calculation is taxes!!!

By my calculations, a renter family of 3 making 100K, contributing to 401K etc. will pay about 18500 USD in total taxes (Fed+CA+FICA+Med). (Not $25400 as suggested in the post.) That is about 7000 USD difference in take home pay which could influence rent/buy decisions.

Why? Because there is standard deduction, exemptions, child tax credit etc. in the tax code; so you almost need to fill out your tax form to find out how much the tax owed is. I have one excel spreadsheet that I optimized for my situation for this purpose.

Does anyone that fits the above situation, share with us if their taxes are closer to 18K or 25K? I wanted to see if there is any error in my spreadsheet.”

I don’t believe that the taxes are being overestimated. We are a renting family of three with a household income around 135K (single income). We were SHOCKED at how much we are paying in taxes now that we are CA residents. Everything included is around 40% out each month. Add in union dues, medical, 401k contribution, and our take home pay gets smaller and smaller! We’ll maybe get $2000 back at tax time as renters. When you don’t own your own business and don’t own a house, taxes are enormous.

We invest 10% of our gross to our IRAs and 401k, plus a fairly substantial percentage to increase our future down payment on a house. We also have funds for vacation and Christmas, and child’s college. Both of our cars are paid off and we have no debt. We are able to live modestly and still have some fun, but I would not feel comfortable buying a house that cost any more than 300K or so. Doing so would make us much tighter than I would wish to be, especially considering that child will be entering college sooner rather than later! Granted, I will return to work in a more full time capacity when kiddo goes off to school.

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I think that the most
Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on April 22, 2008 – 7:47am.

“I think that the most obviously overestimated thing in this calculation is taxes!!!

By my calculations, a renter family of 3 making 100K, contributing to 401K etc. will pay about 18500 USD in total taxes (Fed+CA+FICA+Med). (Not $25400 as suggested in the post.) That is about 7000 USD difference in take home pay which could influence rent/buy decisions.

Why? Because there is standard deduction, exemptions, child tax credit etc. in the tax code; so you almost need to fill out your tax form to find out how much the tax owed is. I have one excel spreadsheet that I optimized for my situation for this purpose.

Does anyone that fits the above situation, share with us if their taxes are closer to 18K or 25K? I wanted to see if there is any error in my spreadsheet.”

I don’t believe that the taxes are being overestimated. We are a renting family of three with a household income around 135K (single income). We were SHOCKED at how much we are paying in taxes now that we are CA residents. Everything included is around 40% out each month. Add in union dues, medical, 401k contribution, and our take home pay gets smaller and smaller! We’ll maybe get $2000 back at tax time as renters. When you don’t own your own business and don’t own a house, taxes are enormous.

We invest 10% of our gross to our IRAs and 401k, plus a fairly substantial percentage to increase our future down payment on a house. We also have funds for vacation and Christmas, and child’s college. Both of our cars are paid off and we have no debt. We are able to live modestly and still have some fun, but I would not feel comfortable buying a house that cost any more than 300K or so. Doing so would make us much tighter than I would wish to be, especially considering that child will be entering college sooner rather than later! Granted, I will return to work in a more full time capacity when kiddo goes off to school.

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There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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I would vote for something classic, but no f*%ked up spellings, please. That is a pet peeve of mine!

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I would vote for something classic, but no f*%ked up spellings, please. That is a pet peeve of mine!

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I would vote for something classic, but no f*%ked up spellings, please. That is a pet peeve of mine!

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I would vote for something classic, but no f*%ked up spellings, please. That is a pet peeve of mine!

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I would vote for something classic, but no f*%ked up spellings, please. That is a pet peeve of mine!

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