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Participant[quote=spdrun]Deck the lawyers with kerosene …
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One thing I noticed in San Diego is that you don’t see many kids walking to school outside of groups. In NYC and towns in NJ, kids walk (or even take public transit) by themselves.
Makes you think the kind of coddled babies that CA is raising.[/quote]
It depends on which neighborhood you’re looking at. In my area, I see plenty of kids walking to and from school. In Elementary, the parent(s) walk to the kids and in Middle/High School, they walk/bike by themselves.Participantlol, i’ll be right there with you
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I don’t think there’s a disagreement on there being a correction in the future. I’m doubting the magnitude of it that some apparently are convinced will happen, just as much as I doubted the magnitude of the correction we experienced here in SD in the areas where demand is generally stronger than other places.And that cousin doesn’t *need* to live in a 1.8million+ place in Cupertino, he can live just fine in Santa Clara. It’s a tradeoff, that people make more so there than down here.
Regardless, when this new tech bubble does pop, guess who’s going to end up eating shit the most? Yup, retail stock “investors” who either bought these company stocks directly, or are indirectly holding onto them with a mutual fund, like the famous Fidelity Contrafund or OTC fund, that is in just about everyone’s 401k plan.. It won’t be all the employees and insiders of these companies that were given these shares as part of their employment package. Just like how was back in 2000/2001.[/quote]
I won’t predict the depth of the crash because it’s foolish to even try. However, according to the video, Cupertino saw a 70+% rise in 1 year? If that’s true, I think there’s a possibility of a big decline, but who knows. Even at the peak of the bubble, I don’t think places like La Jolla and Del Mar were seeing 70% increase in a year. So, this is uncharted territory. Maybe this is the new normal for bay area and it’s going to be forever expensive like other major cities around the world. Only time will tell. But regardless, if you’re not making millions from the IPO lottery, I don’t see a reason to stay. If you own a home, this is a perfect opportunity to sell your million dollar shack and move to less expensive places like SD, LA, OC and retire.Then the next question is, at what point do companies will start saying, why are we paying Sr. Engineers $250k in the bay (just so they can afford an average life style) while we can pay 1/3 of that in SD, OC, LA, etc. I don’t know where that tipping point is, but I would assume there has to be a tipping point.
As for your cousin, I find it crazy that you would have to make that kind of tradeoff when you have that big of a windfall. That’s one of the reason why I think it’s unsustainable. It goes back to, if you’re not young (in your 20s) with no kids trying to chase the IPO lottery, this is a perfect opportunity to cash out.
As for who will eat shit the most, I think it’s the young engineers who feel rich with their paper $ who got in a little too late and got greedy and does not cash out. Remember all the .com companies? You can be millionaire one minute and a few months later, you’re back to where you started. Only the lucky few who are founders who sell their company who would make it out big, but they’re the minority, even in the bay. I don’t think the bay area tech crash would bring down the entire economy like the housing crash, since bay area tech is isolated, unlike housing.
ParticipantI dunno. I don’t see how this can last. Even with your 25 years old cousin getting a windfall of $1.2M, that still can’t get him a 1600 sq-ft house in Cupertino, which is now going for around $1.8-2M. So, if he plow all $1.2M into the house, he would still need to get a $600-800k loan for a 1600 sq-ft house. You can get a much bigger house in Carmel Valley for $800k. So, even if you get a $200k windfall in SD, you’re still in a much better situation here. Not to mention the long term property tax difference. A $1.8M house in Cupertino would have yearly property tax of ~$21k and rising 2% each year, while the $800k house in Carmel Valley would have property tax of $9500. After 30 years, the Carmel Valley house would have a property tax of ~$17k while the Cupertino house would have property tax of $38k. At $38k/year in just property tax alone, I hope people in the bay save well and aren’t counting on SS.
I don’t know how high this will go, but definitely, right now, the bay area feel like 2006 in SD. I feel sorry for they young people who haven’t bought a house up there and aren’t lucky and hit an IPO lottery. For every LinkedIn, there are thousands of engineers who aren’t so lucky.
ParticipantJust watched the video. All I can say is, move.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN][quote=scaredyclassic]clearly the current curriculum is not engaging many students. i wonder if we could imagine a school that engaged them? or is it just school to welfare or school to prison for all of them? is there no use for them in society?[/quote]
Only they can decide that. No one else.[/quote]is that really true? we alone determine our fates? say you go to law school, and only 20% of the class gets a job afterwards, but everyone went to law school because the student laons were accessible and they assumed theyd be the exception. was their fate in their hands alone? or was the system set up to ensure some got a job, some went to priosn, some killedself, etc…[/quote]If you decide to do drugs and kill people, your future was entirely in your hands.
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]clearly the current curriculum is not engaging many students. i wonder if we could imagine a school that engaged them? or is it just school to welfare or school to prison for all of them? is there no use for them in society?[/quote]
Only they can decide that. No one else.Participant[quote=ltsdd]btw., what’s the role of school cops? Is it even their job to intervene with a non-complying/stubborn student? It’s not a crime is it?[/quote]
Don’t get me wrong, I think he used excessive force. But it should have NEVER gotten to that point. Blame can be put on both the student and teacher. Why did they even call the school cop in the first place? Is it out of line to expect people to be considerate of others?ParticipantSelective enforcement.
http://laschoolreport.com/la-unified-graduation-rates-fourth-year/
LA Unified graduation rate in 2014 is 67.9%. That mean 32.1% dropped out of school. So, is 1/3 of LA kids get put in jail?
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN][quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN]Why should there be a problem in the first place. Don’t like to learn? Just leave. Save everyone the hassle of dealing with your inconsiderate ass.[/quote]
school is not optional. it’s against the law not to go.[/quote]
And it’s against the law to tell someone to stay home or keep their kid home , out of school permanently too.[/quote]But it’s not against the law to be considerate and keep yourself at home if all you’ll do is disrupt the class and prevent others from learning.[/quote]
Yes that’s a crime. Truancy. U can go to jail.[/quote]Does that law get enforced? I never saw anyone get put in jail on Sr. ditch day. If we don’t enforce it, we should get rid of it. Since only 81% of American graduate on HS anyways, I’m pretty sure 19% had plenty of truancy.
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN]Why should there be a problem in the first place. Don’t like to learn? Just leave. Save everyone the hassle of dealing with your inconsiderate ass.[/quote]
school is not optional. it’s against the law not to go.[/quote]
And it’s against the law to tell someone to stay home or keep their kid home , out of school permanently too.[/quote]But it’s not against the law to be considerate and keep yourself at home if all you’ll do is disrupt the class and prevent others from learning.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN]Why should there be a problem in the first place. Don’t like to learn? Just leave. Save everyone the hassle of dealing with your inconsiderate ass.[/quote]
school is not optional. it’s against the law not to go.[/quote]
It’s also against the law to punch a cop.Participant[quote=kev374][quote=Hobie]Ok. How would you remove a disruptive, belligerent child from the classroom? Move the rest of the class to another room? Would any of you have behaved like this kid when you were a kid? We didn’t have cops on campus back then.[/quote]
notify parents first that kid if going to be forcibly removed if they do not come down asap.
Then to remove a tiny kid that weighs perhaps 60-70lbs forcibly does not require black belt karate chops, just have 2 officers lift the kid out of the seat, restrain and remove.
The officer her acted like he was tackling some 250lb hardened armed criminal!![/quote]I’m sure that girl wasn’t 60-70 lb.
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