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ParticipantThe gull-wing looks cool as a show and tell piece, but very impractical. Like you said, no roof rack system because of the doors. Which is pointless to have a snow chain system for me. Also, every time I’ve gone to the mountain so far, there haven’t been any place to charge the car. So, it really limit what the Model X can do for me in the mountain.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=AN][ What I want is equal outrage by the black on black crime. Is it really that hard to understand? [/quote]
It’s a red herring and false equivalence. Kinda like saying the breast cancer people should advocate equally for testicular cancer.[/quote]Bad analogy. If BLM is named Black People Against Cop Killing, then you’d have a valid analogy. A more correct analogy would be a group naming themselves American For Cancer Cure concentrating all of their energy and money on Ovarian Cancer while completely ignoring lunch, breast, prostate cancers (the 3 leading cancer deaths).
Participant[quote=SK in CV]Here’s stats:
You have stats that cops are 3 times more likely to be killed by black man than a white man?
BLM has not been going on for just a couple years. The discriminatory treatment of blacks by law enforcement, which BLM is protesting, has literally been going on for centuries.[/quote]
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/960/img/photos/2014/11/28/17/41/WEB113014-ohio-ferguson-killed-5g_1.jpgIf you’re saying BLM = Black Against Police Brutality, then you’re correct. But then they shouldn’t call themselves Black Lives Matter then, because that’s not what they’re fighting for. If that’s what you think BLM means, then we can agree that black on black crime is irrelevant. That’s not what I understand Black Lives Matter to mean. I take it literally to mean, ALL Black Lives Matter.
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=AN][quote=SK in CV]So you’re saying that we can’t do shit about cops killing blacks at 3 times the rate of whites until somebody makes some noise about Chicago. [/quote]
Never said that, so stop putting words in my mouth. Whatever, I’m done.[/quote]Ok, fair enough. That’s not what you said. Why do you want to see equal rage? Why is that important? Why do you think there isn’t equal rage?[/quote]Why do I want equal rage? Why is it important? Because ALL Black Lives Matter regardless of how it was taken. Especially those of children and innocent bystander who happen to be poor who have to live in the project because they’re poor. I’m much more enraged about some innocent kid getting killed by stray bullet from a gang shoot out than a gang banger or criminal being shot by a cop. I didn’t see BLM going and march for that little girl who was studying in her room and got killed by a stray bullet by some gang banger.
Why do I think there isn’t equal rage? Because black on black killing have been going on for a long time and BLM only started recently AND they only come out for marches and rallies when it’s cop killing black person.
As for your stats, a similar stats can be said going the other way. Cops are 3 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person, just like a black person is 3 times more likely to be killed by a cop.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]So you’re saying that we can’t do shit about cops killing blacks at 3 times the rate of whites until somebody makes some noise about Chicago. [/quote]
Never said that, so stop putting words in my mouth. Whatever, I’m done.Participant[quote=SK in CV]Why equal outrage? Why is that important? Why is it even related? We can’t fix cops killing blacks at 3 times the rate they kill whites across the country until there’s sufficient rage about something happening in Chicago? (Do you know there isn’t equal rage? Have you spent any time in the south side of Chicago?) Please think this one through before you respond. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.[/quote]
Because Black Lives Matters. Think long and hard about those 3 words and maybe you’ll understand.Participant[quote=poorgradstudent]Well, I’m sure BLM supports things like better inner city schools and improving the conditions of poverty that tend to lead to the murders associated with the drug trade.
But this is sort of a red herring argument, as there is plenty of white-on-white killing too. Murder is illegal, and we have an okay if imperfect system for dealing with murderers.
In the short run, there are a lot more reforms that can be done regarding policing than there are in ending poverty and the drug trade. One good proposal I’ve seen is consolidating police forces. Most European countries don’t cede control of the police to local authorities, and overall it seems like our model isn’t working well at all.[/quote]My question is, if Black Lives Matter really mean black lives matter, then why concentrate on one cause of black death while not showing as much anger toward a much bigger cause of black death? Shouldn’t there be even more anger toward a much bigger cause of black death?
As for cops shooting black men, Gary Johnson said it best. The root cause is the War on Drugs. If we legalize drugs, then cops wouldn’t need to incarcerate black men for dealing or using drugs. Most of black men who are incarcerated is due to drug related charges. Once you’re in the system, it would be much harder for you to find jobs and lead a productive life.
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=AN][quote=SK in CV][quote=AN][quote=poorgradstudent]I’m certainly curious how the NRA will respond to the recent tragedies.[/quote]
I’m just as curious to see how the BLM movement and the president respond to the cop massacre.[/quote]I’m still waiting to see how cops respond to the BLM movement. So far, it’s been mostly to do nothing but dismiss it. That strategy hasn’t worked out well for anyone.[/quote]
Agree. But at the same time, what is the BLM doing about the black on black killing in cities like Chicago?[/quote]What exactly does one have to do with the other?
Are you saying that it’s fine that cops kill innocent people if they’re black, as long as criminals in Chicago are killing black people too? You’re usually a pretty logical guy. This one makes no sense whatsoever.[/quote]
Uh… no. Read the first word in my response. What I want is equal outrage by the black on black crime. Is it really that hard to understand? It’s NEVER fine for cops to kill anybody (innocent or otherwise), if their life is not in imminent danger. Why would you even assume that?Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=AN][quote=poorgradstudent]I’m certainly curious how the NRA will respond to the recent tragedies.[/quote]
I’m just as curious to see how the BLM movement and the president respond to the cop massacre.[/quote]I’m still waiting to see how cops respond to the BLM movement. So far, it’s been mostly to do nothing but dismiss it. That strategy hasn’t worked out well for anyone.[/quote]
Agree. But at the same time, what is the BLM doing about the black on black killing in cities like Chicago?Participant[quote=poorgradstudent]I’m certainly curious how the NRA will respond to the recent tragedies.[/quote]
I’m just as curious to see how the BLM movement and the president respond to the cop massacre.Participant[quote=treehugger]ahhhh, I had not asked about the increased credit for a higher rate!
About $2000 difference, can’t believe rates will go lower? We plan to downsize maybe in 5-6 years depending on where the kids go to college, may be longer, seems worth it to keep the lower rate?[/quote]
That’s what I thought 4 months ago when I started the last refi.ParticipantSebonic does financing for condo with <50% owner occupied. Their rate for cash out refi is 4.25% + 3rd party fees and appraisal. It also comes down to what your LTV would be, how much, if any, you're pulling out.
ParticipantI’m in the process of refinancing again. This time with Sebonic. I was offered 3.25% with $0 fee ( but I have to pay for 3rd party fees and appraisal) or 3.375% with $3400 in credit, which covers all 3rd party fees, appraisal, and leave me with about $1k to put into my compound account. I picked 3.375%. I just refied to 3.5% two months ago and got ~$2500 put into my impound.
Participant[quote=carlsbadworker][quote=moneymaker]Looks like I’m going to get .875% savings with a refi, hopefully it won’t be too painful.[/quote]
How can you guys all save that much, the rate hasn’t dropped that much yet.
http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/graph/
What’s the big Brexit rate drop that that I do not yet see?[/quote]
I think it depends on when you got your financed last time. I was only able to save 1/8%. -
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