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January 27, 2009 at 3:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337726January 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337126
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.
Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.
There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.
We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.
January 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337453Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.
Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.
There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.
We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.
January 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337544Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.
Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.
There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.
We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.
January 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337571Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.
Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.
There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.
We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.
January 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337660Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.
Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.
There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.
We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.
January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337001Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPartypup: As I’ve mentioned before, Breezie is largely a polemicist. He doesn’t like having to deal with actual facts, and will generally back water when forced to actually debate the facts.
You’re seeing the various responses that someone who doesn’t know how to conduct an argument falls back on, from ad hominem attacks (“right wing nutjob”, which you clearly aren’t in terms of party or leaning), to the classic strawman to outright obfuscation (10 Reasons Why We Should Attack Canada).
I have tried on numerous occasions to get Ole Windy to face off in a set piece battle, but he has averred (or ignored me entirely).
It’s interesting to note that he brands anyone who disagrees with him as a kook, which is right out of Stalinism 101: Don’t legitimize the statement through dialogue/discourse/argument, rather, discredit or scapegoat your opponent instead.
January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337329Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPartypup: As I’ve mentioned before, Breezie is largely a polemicist. He doesn’t like having to deal with actual facts, and will generally back water when forced to actually debate the facts.
You’re seeing the various responses that someone who doesn’t know how to conduct an argument falls back on, from ad hominem attacks (“right wing nutjob”, which you clearly aren’t in terms of party or leaning), to the classic strawman to outright obfuscation (10 Reasons Why We Should Attack Canada).
I have tried on numerous occasions to get Ole Windy to face off in a set piece battle, but he has averred (or ignored me entirely).
It’s interesting to note that he brands anyone who disagrees with him as a kook, which is right out of Stalinism 101: Don’t legitimize the statement through dialogue/discourse/argument, rather, discredit or scapegoat your opponent instead.
January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337419Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPartypup: As I’ve mentioned before, Breezie is largely a polemicist. He doesn’t like having to deal with actual facts, and will generally back water when forced to actually debate the facts.
You’re seeing the various responses that someone who doesn’t know how to conduct an argument falls back on, from ad hominem attacks (“right wing nutjob”, which you clearly aren’t in terms of party or leaning), to the classic strawman to outright obfuscation (10 Reasons Why We Should Attack Canada).
I have tried on numerous occasions to get Ole Windy to face off in a set piece battle, but he has averred (or ignored me entirely).
It’s interesting to note that he brands anyone who disagrees with him as a kook, which is right out of Stalinism 101: Don’t legitimize the statement through dialogue/discourse/argument, rather, discredit or scapegoat your opponent instead.
January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337445Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPartypup: As I’ve mentioned before, Breezie is largely a polemicist. He doesn’t like having to deal with actual facts, and will generally back water when forced to actually debate the facts.
You’re seeing the various responses that someone who doesn’t know how to conduct an argument falls back on, from ad hominem attacks (“right wing nutjob”, which you clearly aren’t in terms of party or leaning), to the classic strawman to outright obfuscation (10 Reasons Why We Should Attack Canada).
I have tried on numerous occasions to get Ole Windy to face off in a set piece battle, but he has averred (or ignored me entirely).
It’s interesting to note that he brands anyone who disagrees with him as a kook, which is right out of Stalinism 101: Don’t legitimize the statement through dialogue/discourse/argument, rather, discredit or scapegoat your opponent instead.
January 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337535Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPartypup: As I’ve mentioned before, Breezie is largely a polemicist. He doesn’t like having to deal with actual facts, and will generally back water when forced to actually debate the facts.
You’re seeing the various responses that someone who doesn’t know how to conduct an argument falls back on, from ad hominem attacks (“right wing nutjob”, which you clearly aren’t in terms of party or leaning), to the classic strawman to outright obfuscation (10 Reasons Why We Should Attack Canada).
I have tried on numerous occasions to get Ole Windy to face off in a set piece battle, but he has averred (or ignored me entirely).
It’s interesting to note that he brands anyone who disagrees with him as a kook, which is right out of Stalinism 101: Don’t legitimize the statement through dialogue/discourse/argument, rather, discredit or scapegoat your opponent instead.
January 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #336816Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: The more likely and more plausible explanation is that he’s been forced to change his plans and largely because the situation in Iraq has changed so markedly and so quickly.
We’re now looking at a very different situation on the ground there and if you speak with anyone in country, they’ll tell you how far we’ve come and in a short period.
I have friends there and as little as 15 – 18 months ago they considered the war a lost cause. No more. Combat operations in many provinces have largely ceased and most of the US forces are focused on training the Iraqi Army and police forces and restoring order and stability.
The fact that Obama is ABLE to deploy those 18,000 Marines to Afghanistan should not be lost on you. He can do so because they’re NOT NEEDED in Iraq. The question you should ask is why are they not needed in Iraq?
January 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337145Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: The more likely and more plausible explanation is that he’s been forced to change his plans and largely because the situation in Iraq has changed so markedly and so quickly.
We’re now looking at a very different situation on the ground there and if you speak with anyone in country, they’ll tell you how far we’ve come and in a short period.
I have friends there and as little as 15 – 18 months ago they considered the war a lost cause. No more. Combat operations in many provinces have largely ceased and most of the US forces are focused on training the Iraqi Army and police forces and restoring order and stability.
The fact that Obama is ABLE to deploy those 18,000 Marines to Afghanistan should not be lost on you. He can do so because they’re NOT NEEDED in Iraq. The question you should ask is why are they not needed in Iraq?
January 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337233Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: The more likely and more plausible explanation is that he’s been forced to change his plans and largely because the situation in Iraq has changed so markedly and so quickly.
We’re now looking at a very different situation on the ground there and if you speak with anyone in country, they’ll tell you how far we’ve come and in a short period.
I have friends there and as little as 15 – 18 months ago they considered the war a lost cause. No more. Combat operations in many provinces have largely ceased and most of the US forces are focused on training the Iraqi Army and police forces and restoring order and stability.
The fact that Obama is ABLE to deploy those 18,000 Marines to Afghanistan should not be lost on you. He can do so because they’re NOT NEEDED in Iraq. The question you should ask is why are they not needed in Iraq?
January 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337261Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: The more likely and more plausible explanation is that he’s been forced to change his plans and largely because the situation in Iraq has changed so markedly and so quickly.
We’re now looking at a very different situation on the ground there and if you speak with anyone in country, they’ll tell you how far we’ve come and in a short period.
I have friends there and as little as 15 – 18 months ago they considered the war a lost cause. No more. Combat operations in many provinces have largely ceased and most of the US forces are focused on training the Iraqi Army and police forces and restoring order and stability.
The fact that Obama is ABLE to deploy those 18,000 Marines to Afghanistan should not be lost on you. He can do so because they’re NOT NEEDED in Iraq. The question you should ask is why are they not needed in Iraq?
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