Why I am leaving San Diego

[jstoesz]

From what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.

There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.

[jstoesz]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]

I think people say that every 25 years or so.

Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.

And then there is biotech…

CA is doing just fine.

But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]

I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.

BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.

[jstoesz]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]

I think people say that every 25 years or so.

Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.

And then there is biotech…

CA is doing just fine.

But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]

I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.

BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.

[jstoesz]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]

I think people say that every 25 years or so.

Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.

And then there is biotech…

CA is doing just fine.

But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]

I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.

BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.

[jstoesz]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]

I think people say that every 25 years or so.

Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.

And then there is biotech…

CA is doing just fine.

But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]

I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.

BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.

[jstoesz]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]

I think people say that every 25 years or so.

Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.

And then there is biotech…

CA is doing just fine.

But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]

I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.

BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz][quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.[/quote]

You guys aren’t going to start jabbering about hockey, the Golden Gophs or the Vikes, are you? A buddy of mine is from Edina, and won’t shut the f**k up about hockey now. What kind of idiot talks about hockey during FOOTBALL season?!?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz][quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.[/quote]

You guys aren’t going to start jabbering about hockey, the Golden Gophs or the Vikes, are you? A buddy of mine is from Edina, and won’t shut the f**k up about hockey now. What kind of idiot talks about hockey during FOOTBALL season?!?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz][quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.[/quote]

You guys aren’t going to start jabbering about hockey, the Golden Gophs or the Vikes, are you? A buddy of mine is from Edina, and won’t shut the f**k up about hockey now. What kind of idiot talks about hockey during FOOTBALL season?!?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz][quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.[/quote]

You guys aren’t going to start jabbering about hockey, the Golden Gophs or the Vikes, are you? A buddy of mine is from Edina, and won’t shut the f**k up about hockey now. What kind of idiot talks about hockey during FOOTBALL season?!?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz][quote=EconProf]Having grown up in St. Paul[/quote]

Glad to here there are other MN folk on this thread. Whenever I go home I instantly feel better, just walking through the airport and seeing all the unfashionable midwesterners. It always feels so much less competitive and jealous. The accent is quite horrid though.[/quote]

You guys aren’t going to start jabbering about hockey, the Golden Gophs or the Vikes, are you? A buddy of mine is from Edina, and won’t shut the f**k up about hockey now. What kind of idiot talks about hockey during FOOTBALL season?!?

[DWCAP]

Your study includes the years 1992-2002. The most recient data seems to be nearly 8 years old, and totally behind the Housing bubble and recient Federal interventions.

[DWCAP]

Your study includes the years 1992-2002. The most recient data seems to be nearly 8 years old, and totally behind the Housing bubble and recient Federal interventions.

[DWCAP]

Your study includes the years 1992-2002. The most recient data seems to be nearly 8 years old, and totally behind the Housing bubble and recient Federal interventions.

[DWCAP]

Your study includes the years 1992-2002. The most recient data seems to be nearly 8 years old, and totally behind the Housing bubble and recient Federal interventions.

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