Why I am leaving San Diego

[CA renter]

Also, just want to clarify…I don’t think jp or I are looking for that “special” Del Mar house that everyone else wants to buy.

There is this weird misconception on housing blogs that those of us who complain about the intervention or high prices are simply “whiners” who are looking for million-dollar properties to drop to $200K. That’s not the case with any of the bubble-sitters I’m aware of. We’re looking for very ordinary homes — no McMansions and no granite, please! — and just want prices to go to levels that are aligned with historical norms and price/rent ratios. We want prices to go where they would go without all the unprecedented intervention. That is NOT feeling “entitled” by any stretch of the imagination.

[Scarlett]

Exactly, CAR. well said. same here.

[Scarlett]

Exactly, CAR. well said. same here.

[Scarlett]

Exactly, CAR. well said. same here.

[Scarlett]

Exactly, CAR. well said. same here.

[Scarlett]

Exactly, CAR. well said. same here.

[protorio]

Locals’s perspective is different.

Good luck to the OP. I must say, that as a life-long San Diegan, with my parents, grandparents, etc all in town, that things often sound different from a local’s perspective vs. transplants. In my experience, San Diego is a working class town that feels small, with some very tony areas. But most folks who are from here are normal, hard-working, relatively relaxed folks that you’d find anywhere else in the U.S. (except, thankfully, we have good diversity). I don’t need to live in NC costal or Coronado to enjoy the good life. Its always there, and always has been. Ride a bike there or drive. Its not far.

I think a lot of people move here, hang out in the tourist-brochure areas, want the dream, play the game in Carmel Valley, and get bummed out. I would too. The spike in housing bummed me out, believe me! Kinda changed our small-town feel a bit.

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.

[protorio]

Locals’s perspective is different.

Good luck to the OP. I must say, that as a life-long San Diegan, with my parents, grandparents, etc all in town, that things often sound different from a local’s perspective vs. transplants. In my experience, San Diego is a working class town that feels small, with some very tony areas. But most folks who are from here are normal, hard-working, relatively relaxed folks that you’d find anywhere else in the U.S. (except, thankfully, we have good diversity). I don’t need to live in NC costal or Coronado to enjoy the good life. Its always there, and always has been. Ride a bike there or drive. Its not far.

I think a lot of people move here, hang out in the tourist-brochure areas, want the dream, play the game in Carmel Valley, and get bummed out. I would too. The spike in housing bummed me out, believe me! Kinda changed our small-town feel a bit.

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.

[protorio]

Locals’s perspective is different.

Good luck to the OP. I must say, that as a life-long San Diegan, with my parents, grandparents, etc all in town, that things often sound different from a local’s perspective vs. transplants. In my experience, San Diego is a working class town that feels small, with some very tony areas. But most folks who are from here are normal, hard-working, relatively relaxed folks that you’d find anywhere else in the U.S. (except, thankfully, we have good diversity). I don’t need to live in NC costal or Coronado to enjoy the good life. Its always there, and always has been. Ride a bike there or drive. Its not far.

I think a lot of people move here, hang out in the tourist-brochure areas, want the dream, play the game in Carmel Valley, and get bummed out. I would too. The spike in housing bummed me out, believe me! Kinda changed our small-town feel a bit.

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.

[protorio]

Locals’s perspective is different.

Good luck to the OP. I must say, that as a life-long San Diegan, with my parents, grandparents, etc all in town, that things often sound different from a local’s perspective vs. transplants. In my experience, San Diego is a working class town that feels small, with some very tony areas. But most folks who are from here are normal, hard-working, relatively relaxed folks that you’d find anywhere else in the U.S. (except, thankfully, we have good diversity). I don’t need to live in NC costal or Coronado to enjoy the good life. Its always there, and always has been. Ride a bike there or drive. Its not far.

I think a lot of people move here, hang out in the tourist-brochure areas, want the dream, play the game in Carmel Valley, and get bummed out. I would too. The spike in housing bummed me out, believe me! Kinda changed our small-town feel a bit.

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.

[protorio]

Locals’s perspective is different.

Good luck to the OP. I must say, that as a life-long San Diegan, with my parents, grandparents, etc all in town, that things often sound different from a local’s perspective vs. transplants. In my experience, San Diego is a working class town that feels small, with some very tony areas. But most folks who are from here are normal, hard-working, relatively relaxed folks that you’d find anywhere else in the U.S. (except, thankfully, we have good diversity). I don’t need to live in NC costal or Coronado to enjoy the good life. Its always there, and always has been. Ride a bike there or drive. Its not far.

I think a lot of people move here, hang out in the tourist-brochure areas, want the dream, play the game in Carmel Valley, and get bummed out. I would too. The spike in housing bummed me out, believe me! Kinda changed our small-town feel a bit.

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=protorio]

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.[/quote]

I agree that there are some affordable options. In my opinion, if you can’t swing a house financially in San Diego today, odds are that you probably never will (barring salary increase, career change graduating, etc) …
(For those who can afford, but are holding off for various reasons, willingness and readiness are separate issues. There may be plenty of other valid reasons to hold off. I am strictly talking ability here).

According to Rich’s figures, affordability is at or near a 35-year high. Monthly payments, relative to rent or relative to income are as low as have been measured for at least 33 years.

Here is a link to his figures, with the one’s I am referring to below for convenience…

Shambling Further From Affordability

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[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=protorio]

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.[/quote]

I agree that there are some affordable options. In my opinion, if you can’t swing a house financially in San Diego today, odds are that you probably never will (barring salary increase, career change graduating, etc) …
(For those who can afford, but are holding off for various reasons, willingness and readiness are separate issues. There may be plenty of other valid reasons to hold off. I am strictly talking ability here).

According to Rich’s figures, affordability is at or near a 35-year high. Monthly payments, relative to rent or relative to income are as low as have been measured for at least 33 years.

Here is a link to his figures, with the one’s I am referring to below for convenience…

Shambling Further From Affordability

[img_assist|nid=14211|title=SD payment-to-rent ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=432|height=334]

[img_assist|nid=14212|title=SD payment-to-income ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=436|height=335]

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=protorio]

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.[/quote]

I agree that there are some affordable options. In my opinion, if you can’t swing a house financially in San Diego today, odds are that you probably never will (barring salary increase, career change graduating, etc) …
(For those who can afford, but are holding off for various reasons, willingness and readiness are separate issues. There may be plenty of other valid reasons to hold off. I am strictly talking ability here).

According to Rich’s figures, affordability is at or near a 35-year high. Monthly payments, relative to rent or relative to income are as low as have been measured for at least 33 years.

Here is a link to his figures, with the one’s I am referring to below for convenience…

Shambling Further From Affordability

[img_assist|nid=14211|title=SD payment-to-rent ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=432|height=334]

[img_assist|nid=14212|title=SD payment-to-income ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=436|height=335]

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=protorio]

But to be honest, things are getting affordable in more normal San Diegan neighborhoods. I’ve seen a lot of nice normal houses between 300-350K in family neighborhoods.

I’d be happy to live in other parts of the country. But I’m glad I’m here.[/quote]

I agree that there are some affordable options. In my opinion, if you can’t swing a house financially in San Diego today, odds are that you probably never will (barring salary increase, career change graduating, etc) …
(For those who can afford, but are holding off for various reasons, willingness and readiness are separate issues. There may be plenty of other valid reasons to hold off. I am strictly talking ability here).

According to Rich’s figures, affordability is at or near a 35-year high. Monthly payments, relative to rent or relative to income are as low as have been measured for at least 33 years.

Here is a link to his figures, with the one’s I am referring to below for convenience…

Shambling Further From Affordability

[img_assist|nid=14211|title=SD payment-to-rent ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=432|height=334]

[img_assist|nid=14212|title=SD payment-to-income ratio|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=436|height=335]

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