What will the repeal of Prop 13 do to the market?

[jpinpb]

flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!!

[jpinpb]

[quote=danielwis]Prop 13 severely penalizes the people the state needs most: young adults that work and pay taxes. Prop 13 is a cluster f*** and a disaster.

Now here’s a bone for you tax hawks. I’m all for a readjustment of other taxation to account for the boon in property tax receipts we would see if Prop 13 is abolished. If an amendment were structured in such a way as to account for a rebalancing, then Prop 13 could be defeated.

And yes, Prop 13 is partially to blame for the sky rocketing real-estate prices in the state since it was enacted.[/quote]

Why would you say the state needs young adults that work and pay the most. Middle age adults that work and pay don’t count?

There would NEVER be a re-adjustment of other taxation to account for Prop 13 if it were abolished. Abolishing Prop 13 would secure one thing and one thing only: Higher, neverending increasing property taxes. And no guarantee that services would be provided any better. This is proven in other states. NJ is a perfect example.

[jpinpb]

[quote=danielwis]Prop 13 severely penalizes the people the state needs most: young adults that work and pay taxes. Prop 13 is a cluster f*** and a disaster.

Now here’s a bone for you tax hawks. I’m all for a readjustment of other taxation to account for the boon in property tax receipts we would see if Prop 13 is abolished. If an amendment were structured in such a way as to account for a rebalancing, then Prop 13 could be defeated.

And yes, Prop 13 is partially to blame for the sky rocketing real-estate prices in the state since it was enacted.[/quote]

Why would you say the state needs young adults that work and pay the most. Middle age adults that work and pay don’t count?

There would NEVER be a re-adjustment of other taxation to account for Prop 13 if it were abolished. Abolishing Prop 13 would secure one thing and one thing only: Higher, neverending increasing property taxes. And no guarantee that services would be provided any better. This is proven in other states. NJ is a perfect example.

[jpinpb]

[quote=danielwis]Prop 13 severely penalizes the people the state needs most: young adults that work and pay taxes. Prop 13 is a cluster f*** and a disaster.

Now here’s a bone for you tax hawks. I’m all for a readjustment of other taxation to account for the boon in property tax receipts we would see if Prop 13 is abolished. If an amendment were structured in such a way as to account for a rebalancing, then Prop 13 could be defeated.

And yes, Prop 13 is partially to blame for the sky rocketing real-estate prices in the state since it was enacted.[/quote]

Why would you say the state needs young adults that work and pay the most. Middle age adults that work and pay don’t count?

There would NEVER be a re-adjustment of other taxation to account for Prop 13 if it were abolished. Abolishing Prop 13 would secure one thing and one thing only: Higher, neverending increasing property taxes. And no guarantee that services would be provided any better. This is proven in other states. NJ is a perfect example.

[jpinpb]

[quote=danielwis]Prop 13 severely penalizes the people the state needs most: young adults that work and pay taxes. Prop 13 is a cluster f*** and a disaster.

Now here’s a bone for you tax hawks. I’m all for a readjustment of other taxation to account for the boon in property tax receipts we would see if Prop 13 is abolished. If an amendment were structured in such a way as to account for a rebalancing, then Prop 13 could be defeated.

And yes, Prop 13 is partially to blame for the sky rocketing real-estate prices in the state since it was enacted.[/quote]

Why would you say the state needs young adults that work and pay the most. Middle age adults that work and pay don’t count?

There would NEVER be a re-adjustment of other taxation to account for Prop 13 if it were abolished. Abolishing Prop 13 would secure one thing and one thing only: Higher, neverending increasing property taxes. And no guarantee that services would be provided any better. This is proven in other states. NJ is a perfect example.

[jpinpb]

[quote=danielwis]Prop 13 severely penalizes the people the state needs most: young adults that work and pay taxes. Prop 13 is a cluster f*** and a disaster.

Now here’s a bone for you tax hawks. I’m all for a readjustment of other taxation to account for the boon in property tax receipts we would see if Prop 13 is abolished. If an amendment were structured in such a way as to account for a rebalancing, then Prop 13 could be defeated.

And yes, Prop 13 is partially to blame for the sky rocketing real-estate prices in the state since it was enacted.[/quote]

Why would you say the state needs young adults that work and pay the most. Middle age adults that work and pay don’t count?

There would NEVER be a re-adjustment of other taxation to account for Prop 13 if it were abolished. Abolishing Prop 13 would secure one thing and one thing only: Higher, neverending increasing property taxes. And no guarantee that services would be provided any better. This is proven in other states. NJ is a perfect example.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb]flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!![/quote]

jpinpb, I see where you’re getting at..

I think relatively we’re on the same page. I don’t see how paying more of anything really will help us achieve our budget shortfalls without a concrete plan of stopping the run…

I think there is a huge difference between government and you(fiscal responsible you)….Government always spends on credit without really thinking about how practically that credit could be paid back. Transparency is nill, and accountability is nill.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb]flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!![/quote]

jpinpb, I see where you’re getting at..

I think relatively we’re on the same page. I don’t see how paying more of anything really will help us achieve our budget shortfalls without a concrete plan of stopping the run…

I think there is a huge difference between government and you(fiscal responsible you)….Government always spends on credit without really thinking about how practically that credit could be paid back. Transparency is nill, and accountability is nill.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb]flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!![/quote]

jpinpb, I see where you’re getting at..

I think relatively we’re on the same page. I don’t see how paying more of anything really will help us achieve our budget shortfalls without a concrete plan of stopping the run…

I think there is a huge difference between government and you(fiscal responsible you)….Government always spends on credit without really thinking about how practically that credit could be paid back. Transparency is nill, and accountability is nill.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb]flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!![/quote]

jpinpb, I see where you’re getting at..

I think relatively we’re on the same page. I don’t see how paying more of anything really will help us achieve our budget shortfalls without a concrete plan of stopping the run…

I think there is a huge difference between government and you(fiscal responsible you)….Government always spends on credit without really thinking about how practically that credit could be paid back. Transparency is nill, and accountability is nill.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb]flu – I don’t have a problem paying for services. As I mentioned, City of San Diego does not charge for trash. I think they should and living in the City of San Diego, I would have no problem paying for trash pick up. I have no problem paying for the services I use. But if the City, State, etc do not manage their money wisely, then I’m not going to continue to give them money for services that continue to dwindle. I would love to see an accounting.

I balance my budget, my books, etc. I know how much I make. I know how much I spend. I know if I have to cut corners. I know if I have extra, I probably should save for a rainy day. I know there are things I want or need. I know if I extend myself. I know I’ll have to maybe work a little more or make a sacrifice later to make up for this and it may hurt for a while. All this is just me.

We have “experts” in our government that are supposed to do this w/the taxpayers’ money and accordingly plan their budget and expenses. This is where they fail!![/quote]

jpinpb, I see where you’re getting at..

I think relatively we’re on the same page. I don’t see how paying more of anything really will help us achieve our budget shortfalls without a concrete plan of stopping the run…

I think there is a huge difference between government and you(fiscal responsible you)….Government always spends on credit without really thinking about how practically that credit could be paid back. Transparency is nill, and accountability is nill.

[jpinpb]

I might add one more thing. They government has already indirectly found a way around Prop 13. It’s called Mello Roos and almost all new communities have it. So they actually do get taxes to fund new communities. And they are burning through that money, obviously. And services continue to get cut.

I am opposed to feeding a grizzly bear w/insatiable appetite.

[jpinpb]

I might add one more thing. They government has already indirectly found a way around Prop 13. It’s called Mello Roos and almost all new communities have it. So they actually do get taxes to fund new communities. And they are burning through that money, obviously. And services continue to get cut.

I am opposed to feeding a grizzly bear w/insatiable appetite.

[jpinpb]

I might add one more thing. They government has already indirectly found a way around Prop 13. It’s called Mello Roos and almost all new communities have it. So they actually do get taxes to fund new communities. And they are burning through that money, obviously. And services continue to get cut.

I am opposed to feeding a grizzly bear w/insatiable appetite.

[jpinpb]

I might add one more thing. They government has already indirectly found a way around Prop 13. It’s called Mello Roos and almost all new communities have it. So they actually do get taxes to fund new communities. And they are burning through that money, obviously. And services continue to get cut.

I am opposed to feeding a grizzly bear w/insatiable appetite.

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