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October 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM #621850October 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM #620777
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=flu] The sad part is that I use to not care about politics…Then I started to after Bush(it)[/quote]
Ditto! That BTW is the best argument about
(1) Why should you vote carefully.
(2) Why vote for third party can be fatal in some circumstances (Ralph Nadar voters are you happy?)October 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM #620858Participant[quote=flu] The sad part is that I use to not care about politics…Then I started to after Bush(it)[/quote]
Ditto! That BTW is the best argument about
(1) Why should you vote carefully.
(2) Why vote for third party can be fatal in some circumstances (Ralph Nadar voters are you happy?)October 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM #621415Participant[quote=flu] The sad part is that I use to not care about politics…Then I started to after Bush(it)[/quote]
Ditto! That BTW is the best argument about
(1) Why should you vote carefully.
(2) Why vote for third party can be fatal in some circumstances (Ralph Nadar voters are you happy?)October 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM #621536Participant[quote=flu] The sad part is that I use to not care about politics…Then I started to after Bush(it)[/quote]
Ditto! That BTW is the best argument about
(1) Why should you vote carefully.
(2) Why vote for third party can be fatal in some circumstances (Ralph Nadar voters are you happy?)October 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM #621855Participant[quote=flu] The sad part is that I use to not care about politics…Then I started to after Bush(it)[/quote]
Ditto! That BTW is the best argument about
(1) Why should you vote carefully.
(2) Why vote for third party can be fatal in some circumstances (Ralph Nadar voters are you happy?)October 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM #620782briansd1
Guest[quote=UCGal]
Hmmm. Using my reason and immense gray matter, I have determined to only vote for those who give my company specific benefit – like medicare part d if I’m a pharma company, or TARP if I’m a bank, or defense contracts if I’m a defense company…(I doubt those are dem’s making that argument.)
My point – people of both parties often vote with their bottom line in mind – whether it is business opportunities, tax policies, etc.[/quote]
Voting your bottom line is rational and I accept that.
But how do we explain the working-class conservatives in the poor Red States and the poor/poorer areas of California?
Notice that all the counties along the Coast of California are blue (expect for Del Norte County, and the very top, and Orange County, home to thousands of right-wing Vietnamese refugees on welfare who tip the balance in favor of the Republicans).
As was discussed before, the estate tax is a big rallying cry for Tea Partiers and conservatives. But it only affects 5500 estates per year. It’s clearly not a bottom line issue for those conservatives.
enron_by_the_sea explained working-class conservative motivations the best so far.
October 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM #620863Guest[quote=UCGal]
Hmmm. Using my reason and immense gray matter, I have determined to only vote for those who give my company specific benefit – like medicare part d if I’m a pharma company, or TARP if I’m a bank, or defense contracts if I’m a defense company…(I doubt those are dem’s making that argument.)
My point – people of both parties often vote with their bottom line in mind – whether it is business opportunities, tax policies, etc.[/quote]
Voting your bottom line is rational and I accept that.
But how do we explain the working-class conservatives in the poor Red States and the poor/poorer areas of California?
Notice that all the counties along the Coast of California are blue (expect for Del Norte County, and the very top, and Orange County, home to thousands of right-wing Vietnamese refugees on welfare who tip the balance in favor of the Republicans).
As was discussed before, the estate tax is a big rallying cry for Tea Partiers and conservatives. But it only affects 5500 estates per year. It’s clearly not a bottom line issue for those conservatives.
enron_by_the_sea explained working-class conservative motivations the best so far.
October 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM #621420Guest[quote=UCGal]
Hmmm. Using my reason and immense gray matter, I have determined to only vote for those who give my company specific benefit – like medicare part d if I’m a pharma company, or TARP if I’m a bank, or defense contracts if I’m a defense company…(I doubt those are dem’s making that argument.)
My point – people of both parties often vote with their bottom line in mind – whether it is business opportunities, tax policies, etc.[/quote]
Voting your bottom line is rational and I accept that.
But how do we explain the working-class conservatives in the poor Red States and the poor/poorer areas of California?
Notice that all the counties along the Coast of California are blue (expect for Del Norte County, and the very top, and Orange County, home to thousands of right-wing Vietnamese refugees on welfare who tip the balance in favor of the Republicans).
As was discussed before, the estate tax is a big rallying cry for Tea Partiers and conservatives. But it only affects 5500 estates per year. It’s clearly not a bottom line issue for those conservatives.
enron_by_the_sea explained working-class conservative motivations the best so far.
October 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM #621541Guest[quote=UCGal]
Hmmm. Using my reason and immense gray matter, I have determined to only vote for those who give my company specific benefit – like medicare part d if I’m a pharma company, or TARP if I’m a bank, or defense contracts if I’m a defense company…(I doubt those are dem’s making that argument.)
My point – people of both parties often vote with their bottom line in mind – whether it is business opportunities, tax policies, etc.[/quote]
Voting your bottom line is rational and I accept that.
But how do we explain the working-class conservatives in the poor Red States and the poor/poorer areas of California?
Notice that all the counties along the Coast of California are blue (expect for Del Norte County, and the very top, and Orange County, home to thousands of right-wing Vietnamese refugees on welfare who tip the balance in favor of the Republicans).
As was discussed before, the estate tax is a big rallying cry for Tea Partiers and conservatives. But it only affects 5500 estates per year. It’s clearly not a bottom line issue for those conservatives.
enron_by_the_sea explained working-class conservative motivations the best so far.
October 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM #621860Guest[quote=UCGal]
Hmmm. Using my reason and immense gray matter, I have determined to only vote for those who give my company specific benefit – like medicare part d if I’m a pharma company, or TARP if I’m a bank, or defense contracts if I’m a defense company…(I doubt those are dem’s making that argument.)
My point – people of both parties often vote with their bottom line in mind – whether it is business opportunities, tax policies, etc.[/quote]
Voting your bottom line is rational and I accept that.
But how do we explain the working-class conservatives in the poor Red States and the poor/poorer areas of California?
Notice that all the counties along the Coast of California are blue (expect for Del Norte County, and the very top, and Orange County, home to thousands of right-wing Vietnamese refugees on welfare who tip the balance in favor of the Republicans).
As was discussed before, the estate tax is a big rallying cry for Tea Partiers and conservatives. But it only affects 5500 estates per year. It’s clearly not a bottom line issue for those conservatives.
enron_by_the_sea explained working-class conservative motivations the best so far.
October 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM #620837(former)FormerSanDiegan
Participant[quote=briansd1]
That’s very rational to vote for people who will give you stuff that you want.
Give me a RATIONAL reason why red-state working-class voters, who live in poverty, support the politicians who will withhold things that they need.[/quote]
Maybe they don’t want the government to give them what they need.
October 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM #620917Participant[quote=briansd1]
That’s very rational to vote for people who will give you stuff that you want.
Give me a RATIONAL reason why red-state working-class voters, who live in poverty, support the politicians who will withhold things that they need.[/quote]
Maybe they don’t want the government to give them what they need.
October 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM #621475Participant[quote=briansd1]
That’s very rational to vote for people who will give you stuff that you want.
Give me a RATIONAL reason why red-state working-class voters, who live in poverty, support the politicians who will withhold things that they need.[/quote]
Maybe they don’t want the government to give them what they need.
October 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM #621596Participant[quote=briansd1]
That’s very rational to vote for people who will give you stuff that you want.
Give me a RATIONAL reason why red-state working-class voters, who live in poverty, support the politicians who will withhold things that they need.[/quote]
Maybe they don’t want the government to give them what they need.
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