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August 19, 2010 at 11:37 PM #594839August 19, 2010 at 11:47 PM #593790
socrattt
ParticipantWe could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm!
August 19, 2010 at 11:47 PM #593885socrattt
ParticipantWe could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm!
August 19, 2010 at 11:47 PM #594422socrattt
ParticipantWe could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm!
August 19, 2010 at 11:47 PM #594533socrattt
ParticipantWe could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm!
August 19, 2010 at 11:47 PM #594844socrattt
ParticipantWe could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm!
August 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM #593820temeculaguy
ParticipantOMG, an actual real estate thread. There’s math, facts, calculations, some heavy hitters and heavy arguments. This is like porn to me.
Remember when we did this all the time.
The only difference is some of the bears of yesteryear are writing what appears to be bullish comments, only their stance is the same. It’s as if guys like ocrenter and others have stood their mathematicial ground, but the marker for where the bear/bull line shifted.
For those of you who are new, I’ll give you an analogy. Let’s say this is a wet t-shirt contest instead of a real estate valuation argument and some of these posters are judges. In 2007 these posters argued that based on the size and shape, this gal should be a 7, but the other judges are giving her a 10, our piggington judges say it’s wrong and will be corrected. Now that it’s 2010, the same gal is still a 7 in their eyes, but there are people arguing that she should be a 4. They make the same argument, a natural 38c with slight iregularities, is a 7, history and the math support a 7, no more no less, but instead of being seen as mean judges, they are now accused of being the “paula abduls” of judges. Those judges never changed their math, they were right then, they are probably right now, their formulas didn’t change, the perception of their formulas have. When the likes of sdrealtor and ocrenter both give her a 7, guess what she’s probably a 7, and 7 aint bad. I like a 7, they are more appreciative than a 9 or a 10, but I digress, which is what I’m known for.
August 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM #593915temeculaguy
ParticipantOMG, an actual real estate thread. There’s math, facts, calculations, some heavy hitters and heavy arguments. This is like porn to me.
Remember when we did this all the time.
The only difference is some of the bears of yesteryear are writing what appears to be bullish comments, only their stance is the same. It’s as if guys like ocrenter and others have stood their mathematicial ground, but the marker for where the bear/bull line shifted.
For those of you who are new, I’ll give you an analogy. Let’s say this is a wet t-shirt contest instead of a real estate valuation argument and some of these posters are judges. In 2007 these posters argued that based on the size and shape, this gal should be a 7, but the other judges are giving her a 10, our piggington judges say it’s wrong and will be corrected. Now that it’s 2010, the same gal is still a 7 in their eyes, but there are people arguing that she should be a 4. They make the same argument, a natural 38c with slight iregularities, is a 7, history and the math support a 7, no more no less, but instead of being seen as mean judges, they are now accused of being the “paula abduls” of judges. Those judges never changed their math, they were right then, they are probably right now, their formulas didn’t change, the perception of their formulas have. When the likes of sdrealtor and ocrenter both give her a 7, guess what she’s probably a 7, and 7 aint bad. I like a 7, they are more appreciative than a 9 or a 10, but I digress, which is what I’m known for.
August 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM #594452temeculaguy
ParticipantOMG, an actual real estate thread. There’s math, facts, calculations, some heavy hitters and heavy arguments. This is like porn to me.
Remember when we did this all the time.
The only difference is some of the bears of yesteryear are writing what appears to be bullish comments, only their stance is the same. It’s as if guys like ocrenter and others have stood their mathematicial ground, but the marker for where the bear/bull line shifted.
For those of you who are new, I’ll give you an analogy. Let’s say this is a wet t-shirt contest instead of a real estate valuation argument and some of these posters are judges. In 2007 these posters argued that based on the size and shape, this gal should be a 7, but the other judges are giving her a 10, our piggington judges say it’s wrong and will be corrected. Now that it’s 2010, the same gal is still a 7 in their eyes, but there are people arguing that she should be a 4. They make the same argument, a natural 38c with slight iregularities, is a 7, history and the math support a 7, no more no less, but instead of being seen as mean judges, they are now accused of being the “paula abduls” of judges. Those judges never changed their math, they were right then, they are probably right now, their formulas didn’t change, the perception of their formulas have. When the likes of sdrealtor and ocrenter both give her a 7, guess what she’s probably a 7, and 7 aint bad. I like a 7, they are more appreciative than a 9 or a 10, but I digress, which is what I’m known for.
August 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM #594563temeculaguy
ParticipantOMG, an actual real estate thread. There’s math, facts, calculations, some heavy hitters and heavy arguments. This is like porn to me.
Remember when we did this all the time.
The only difference is some of the bears of yesteryear are writing what appears to be bullish comments, only their stance is the same. It’s as if guys like ocrenter and others have stood their mathematicial ground, but the marker for where the bear/bull line shifted.
For those of you who are new, I’ll give you an analogy. Let’s say this is a wet t-shirt contest instead of a real estate valuation argument and some of these posters are judges. In 2007 these posters argued that based on the size and shape, this gal should be a 7, but the other judges are giving her a 10, our piggington judges say it’s wrong and will be corrected. Now that it’s 2010, the same gal is still a 7 in their eyes, but there are people arguing that she should be a 4. They make the same argument, a natural 38c with slight iregularities, is a 7, history and the math support a 7, no more no less, but instead of being seen as mean judges, they are now accused of being the “paula abduls” of judges. Those judges never changed their math, they were right then, they are probably right now, their formulas didn’t change, the perception of their formulas have. When the likes of sdrealtor and ocrenter both give her a 7, guess what she’s probably a 7, and 7 aint bad. I like a 7, they are more appreciative than a 9 or a 10, but I digress, which is what I’m known for.
August 20, 2010 at 12:15 AM #594875temeculaguy
ParticipantOMG, an actual real estate thread. There’s math, facts, calculations, some heavy hitters and heavy arguments. This is like porn to me.
Remember when we did this all the time.
The only difference is some of the bears of yesteryear are writing what appears to be bullish comments, only their stance is the same. It’s as if guys like ocrenter and others have stood their mathematicial ground, but the marker for where the bear/bull line shifted.
For those of you who are new, I’ll give you an analogy. Let’s say this is a wet t-shirt contest instead of a real estate valuation argument and some of these posters are judges. In 2007 these posters argued that based on the size and shape, this gal should be a 7, but the other judges are giving her a 10, our piggington judges say it’s wrong and will be corrected. Now that it’s 2010, the same gal is still a 7 in their eyes, but there are people arguing that she should be a 4. They make the same argument, a natural 38c with slight iregularities, is a 7, history and the math support a 7, no more no less, but instead of being seen as mean judges, they are now accused of being the “paula abduls” of judges. Those judges never changed their math, they were right then, they are probably right now, their formulas didn’t change, the perception of their formulas have. When the likes of sdrealtor and ocrenter both give her a 7, guess what she’s probably a 7, and 7 aint bad. I like a 7, they are more appreciative than a 9 or a 10, but I digress, which is what I’m known for.
August 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM #593826outtamojo
Participant[quote=socrattt]We could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm![/quote]
My prediction is that one of these days someone predicting a storm/Tsunami will be correct but will be too scared to buy their dream house:
Headline: Turn-key Ocean view beach front property west of 5, 5/4 3800 sq/ft on 10K sq feet lot selling for $850 – no takers…? of course not Tsunami is comin’. Price Cut! now asking $750 still no takers? nah, price is still too high relative to Median income. Price cut to $650K! no takers? hello, why put your $ in a depreciating asset. Cut to $550 K, house sold for 1.5 million in 05- still nobody interested? nooo, gonna wait for interest rates to spike, that’ll send it to maybe $250K easy. Price cut to $50K! any takers?
Sh@t the world is coming to an end- gonna buy gold at $3k an ounce instead and a few guns to guard it- better yet gonna take that gold and guns and move to Idaho : (August 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM #593920outtamojo
Participant[quote=socrattt]We could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm![/quote]
My prediction is that one of these days someone predicting a storm/Tsunami will be correct but will be too scared to buy their dream house:
Headline: Turn-key Ocean view beach front property west of 5, 5/4 3800 sq/ft on 10K sq feet lot selling for $850 – no takers…? of course not Tsunami is comin’. Price Cut! now asking $750 still no takers? nah, price is still too high relative to Median income. Price cut to $650K! no takers? hello, why put your $ in a depreciating asset. Cut to $550 K, house sold for 1.5 million in 05- still nobody interested? nooo, gonna wait for interest rates to spike, that’ll send it to maybe $250K easy. Price cut to $50K! any takers?
Sh@t the world is coming to an end- gonna buy gold at $3k an ounce instead and a few guns to guard it- better yet gonna take that gold and guns and move to Idaho : (August 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM #594457outtamojo
Participant[quote=socrattt]We could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm![/quote]
My prediction is that one of these days someone predicting a storm/Tsunami will be correct but will be too scared to buy their dream house:
Headline: Turn-key Ocean view beach front property west of 5, 5/4 3800 sq/ft on 10K sq feet lot selling for $850 – no takers…? of course not Tsunami is comin’. Price Cut! now asking $750 still no takers? nah, price is still too high relative to Median income. Price cut to $650K! no takers? hello, why put your $ in a depreciating asset. Cut to $550 K, house sold for 1.5 million in 05- still nobody interested? nooo, gonna wait for interest rates to spike, that’ll send it to maybe $250K easy. Price cut to $50K! any takers?
Sh@t the world is coming to an end- gonna buy gold at $3k an ounce instead and a few guns to guard it- better yet gonna take that gold and guns and move to Idaho : (August 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM #594568outtamojo
Participant[quote=socrattt]We could argue this point to we are all blue in the face and the truth is no one has the correct answer. The current market conditions are completely manipulated. Many buyers refuse to touch distressed properties, primarily short sales. That leaves REOs, which move faster than speed of light (when priced right) and a small percentage of positive equity homes. I am seeing a lot of bizarre stuff happening in North County.
I’ve already posted on the fact that there are homes moving in the same price range as 2005 and 2006 prices +/- in 92009 which makes absolutely no sense. I am shocked to see inventory move in that price range $1M+, but I will say it’s a far cry from early 2009 prices where the market was very dry.
The fact of the matter is we have way too much inventory, but the question is will our inventory levels change. I believe the banks and FED are in cahoots and we won’t see inventory levels change for quite some time but come November there will be a ton of changes in terms of buyers, rates and the overall demand. Prepare yourselves for round 2 as we are in the calm before the storm![/quote]
My prediction is that one of these days someone predicting a storm/Tsunami will be correct but will be too scared to buy their dream house:
Headline: Turn-key Ocean view beach front property west of 5, 5/4 3800 sq/ft on 10K sq feet lot selling for $850 – no takers…? of course not Tsunami is comin’. Price Cut! now asking $750 still no takers? nah, price is still too high relative to Median income. Price cut to $650K! no takers? hello, why put your $ in a depreciating asset. Cut to $550 K, house sold for 1.5 million in 05- still nobody interested? nooo, gonna wait for interest rates to spike, that’ll send it to maybe $250K easy. Price cut to $50K! any takers?
Sh@t the world is coming to an end- gonna buy gold at $3k an ounce instead and a few guns to guard it- better yet gonna take that gold and guns and move to Idaho : ( -
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