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August 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM #596485August 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM #595481yojimboParticipant
Why are there always these endless relativistic arguments? Because some “bankster” is making $3 million a year and doing nothing for it or running their company into the ground I’m supposed to accept any pilfering, extortion or corruption occurring below that amount?
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.
I read the comments about the focus of the media on the top pensioners as well as the justifications for some of the pensions and I can understand some of them. However, the relativistic arguments cause me to quit reading as all credibility is lost. It’s like a murderer going in to court and arguing that “Ted Bundy killed 35 people so why the heck are you punishing me for only killing 2 people?”
Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.
August 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM #595574yojimboParticipantWhy are there always these endless relativistic arguments? Because some “bankster” is making $3 million a year and doing nothing for it or running their company into the ground I’m supposed to accept any pilfering, extortion or corruption occurring below that amount?
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.
I read the comments about the focus of the media on the top pensioners as well as the justifications for some of the pensions and I can understand some of them. However, the relativistic arguments cause me to quit reading as all credibility is lost. It’s like a murderer going in to court and arguing that “Ted Bundy killed 35 people so why the heck are you punishing me for only killing 2 people?”
Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.
August 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM #596113yojimboParticipantWhy are there always these endless relativistic arguments? Because some “bankster” is making $3 million a year and doing nothing for it or running their company into the ground I’m supposed to accept any pilfering, extortion or corruption occurring below that amount?
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.
I read the comments about the focus of the media on the top pensioners as well as the justifications for some of the pensions and I can understand some of them. However, the relativistic arguments cause me to quit reading as all credibility is lost. It’s like a murderer going in to court and arguing that “Ted Bundy killed 35 people so why the heck are you punishing me for only killing 2 people?”
Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.
August 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM #596222yojimboParticipantWhy are there always these endless relativistic arguments? Because some “bankster” is making $3 million a year and doing nothing for it or running their company into the ground I’m supposed to accept any pilfering, extortion or corruption occurring below that amount?
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.
I read the comments about the focus of the media on the top pensioners as well as the justifications for some of the pensions and I can understand some of them. However, the relativistic arguments cause me to quit reading as all credibility is lost. It’s like a murderer going in to court and arguing that “Ted Bundy killed 35 people so why the heck are you punishing me for only killing 2 people?”
Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.
August 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM #596535yojimboParticipantWhy are there always these endless relativistic arguments? Because some “bankster” is making $3 million a year and doing nothing for it or running their company into the ground I’m supposed to accept any pilfering, extortion or corruption occurring below that amount?
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.
I read the comments about the focus of the media on the top pensioners as well as the justifications for some of the pensions and I can understand some of them. However, the relativistic arguments cause me to quit reading as all credibility is lost. It’s like a murderer going in to court and arguing that “Ted Bundy killed 35 people so why the heck are you punishing me for only killing 2 people?”
Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.
August 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM #595516CA renterParticipant[quote=yojimbo]
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we shouldn’t question a mayor of a small town making $800K. Believe it or not, I’m a taxpayer advocate and often criticize the way our tax money is spent.
I just have a problem with the “Susie the manicurist isn’t making this, so why should a firefighter?” or even “John the enginerd isn’t making this, so why is a cop?” arguments. One could easily argue that a police officer provides a much greater benefit to society than an engineer, and that the risks s/he takes are greater. Likewise, one could argue that the engineer has more education…but education has never meant that a person is guaranteed to make more money than someone without an education (lots of poor PhDs out there). One could also argue that high risks don’t guarantee high pay (look at our military personnel).
Again, I despise the fact that **workers of all stripes** are being made (brainwashed) to turn agaist each other when the culprits who created our problems are sailing away on their yachts, unscathed.
August 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM #595609CA renterParticipant[quote=yojimbo]
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we shouldn’t question a mayor of a small town making $800K. Believe it or not, I’m a taxpayer advocate and often criticize the way our tax money is spent.
I just have a problem with the “Susie the manicurist isn’t making this, so why should a firefighter?” or even “John the enginerd isn’t making this, so why is a cop?” arguments. One could easily argue that a police officer provides a much greater benefit to society than an engineer, and that the risks s/he takes are greater. Likewise, one could argue that the engineer has more education…but education has never meant that a person is guaranteed to make more money than someone without an education (lots of poor PhDs out there). One could also argue that high risks don’t guarantee high pay (look at our military personnel).
Again, I despise the fact that **workers of all stripes** are being made (brainwashed) to turn agaist each other when the culprits who created our problems are sailing away on their yachts, unscathed.
August 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM #596148CA renterParticipant[quote=yojimbo]
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we shouldn’t question a mayor of a small town making $800K. Believe it or not, I’m a taxpayer advocate and often criticize the way our tax money is spent.
I just have a problem with the “Susie the manicurist isn’t making this, so why should a firefighter?” or even “John the enginerd isn’t making this, so why is a cop?” arguments. One could easily argue that a police officer provides a much greater benefit to society than an engineer, and that the risks s/he takes are greater. Likewise, one could argue that the engineer has more education…but education has never meant that a person is guaranteed to make more money than someone without an education (lots of poor PhDs out there). One could also argue that high risks don’t guarantee high pay (look at our military personnel).
Again, I despise the fact that **workers of all stripes** are being made (brainwashed) to turn agaist each other when the culprits who created our problems are sailing away on their yachts, unscathed.
August 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM #596257CA renterParticipant[quote=yojimbo]
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we shouldn’t question a mayor of a small town making $800K. Believe it or not, I’m a taxpayer advocate and often criticize the way our tax money is spent.
I just have a problem with the “Susie the manicurist isn’t making this, so why should a firefighter?” or even “John the enginerd isn’t making this, so why is a cop?” arguments. One could easily argue that a police officer provides a much greater benefit to society than an engineer, and that the risks s/he takes are greater. Likewise, one could argue that the engineer has more education…but education has never meant that a person is guaranteed to make more money than someone without an education (lots of poor PhDs out there). One could also argue that high risks don’t guarantee high pay (look at our military personnel).
Again, I despise the fact that **workers of all stripes** are being made (brainwashed) to turn agaist each other when the culprits who created our problems are sailing away on their yachts, unscathed.
August 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM #596570CA renterParticipant[quote=yojimbo]
Since BP makes $10 billion a year I shouldn’t even question a mayor of a small town pilfering it’s residents for $800k a year? Well, there are roughly 30,000 incorporated cities and towns in the US. If, on average, the pilfering is around $100k a year per city then that’s $3 billion a year. In the larger cities it’s probably far above that. A $1 million a year pilfering equals $30 billion. Probably more than all the oil companies combined have allegedly ripped us off.Pilfering the taxpayer at any level pisses me off. In fact, I think it starts at the lower levels and works it’s way up to the top. Those exploiting the system for small amounts as rookies will probably become professional big $ exploiters in due time.[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we shouldn’t question a mayor of a small town making $800K. Believe it or not, I’m a taxpayer advocate and often criticize the way our tax money is spent.
I just have a problem with the “Susie the manicurist isn’t making this, so why should a firefighter?” or even “John the enginerd isn’t making this, so why is a cop?” arguments. One could easily argue that a police officer provides a much greater benefit to society than an engineer, and that the risks s/he takes are greater. Likewise, one could argue that the engineer has more education…but education has never meant that a person is guaranteed to make more money than someone without an education (lots of poor PhDs out there). One could also argue that high risks don’t guarantee high pay (look at our military personnel).
Again, I despise the fact that **workers of all stripes** are being made (brainwashed) to turn agaist each other when the culprits who created our problems are sailing away on their yachts, unscathed.
August 24, 2010 at 2:38 PM #595536pjwalParticipant[quote=CA renter]Bravo, TexasLine.
I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.
We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.
Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.[/quote]
This is the typical leftists argument that makes the patently false assumption that wealth is a zero sum game. The TRILLIONS that has been spent on the private sector GENERATES WEALTH. Government agencies do not. There would be no budget for the government if it were not for the private sector. I don’t have any issue with a CEO making millions as that is taken out of the revenue of the company and not my tax dollars. It’s the left that tries to stir up this class warfare rhetoric and conveniently leaves that fact out.
August 24, 2010 at 2:38 PM #595629pjwalParticipant[quote=CA renter]Bravo, TexasLine.
I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.
We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.
Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.[/quote]
This is the typical leftists argument that makes the patently false assumption that wealth is a zero sum game. The TRILLIONS that has been spent on the private sector GENERATES WEALTH. Government agencies do not. There would be no budget for the government if it were not for the private sector. I don’t have any issue with a CEO making millions as that is taken out of the revenue of the company and not my tax dollars. It’s the left that tries to stir up this class warfare rhetoric and conveniently leaves that fact out.
August 24, 2010 at 2:38 PM #596168pjwalParticipant[quote=CA renter]Bravo, TexasLine.
I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.
We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.
Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.[/quote]
This is the typical leftists argument that makes the patently false assumption that wealth is a zero sum game. The TRILLIONS that has been spent on the private sector GENERATES WEALTH. Government agencies do not. There would be no budget for the government if it were not for the private sector. I don’t have any issue with a CEO making millions as that is taken out of the revenue of the company and not my tax dollars. It’s the left that tries to stir up this class warfare rhetoric and conveniently leaves that fact out.
August 24, 2010 at 2:38 PM #596277pjwalParticipant[quote=CA renter]Bravo, TexasLine.
I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.
We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.
Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.[/quote]
This is the typical leftists argument that makes the patently false assumption that wealth is a zero sum game. The TRILLIONS that has been spent on the private sector GENERATES WEALTH. Government agencies do not. There would be no budget for the government if it were not for the private sector. I don’t have any issue with a CEO making millions as that is taken out of the revenue of the company and not my tax dollars. It’s the left that tries to stir up this class warfare rhetoric and conveniently leaves that fact out.
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