The new smart financial move is walking away

[Arraya]

LIfe is a paradoxical, get over it.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]Being vague about anticipated happiness is not a good enough answer. Anything in life can be “anticipated happiness”. No one would do anything in anticipation of unhappiness. [/quote]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]Being vague about anticipated happiness is not a good enough answer. Anything in life can be “anticipated happiness”. No one would do anything in anticipation of unhappiness. [/quote]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]Being vague about anticipated happiness is not a good enough answer. Anything in life can be “anticipated happiness”. No one would do anything in anticipation of unhappiness. [/quote]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]Being vague about anticipated happiness is not a good enough answer. Anything in life can be “anticipated happiness”. No one would do anything in anticipation of unhappiness. [/quote]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]Being vague about anticipated happiness is not a good enough answer. Anything in life can be “anticipated happiness”. No one would do anything in anticipation of unhappiness. [/quote]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.[/quote]
Once again, selflessness and selfishness is not black and white. The act of conceiving a child might be selfish due to personal gratification. However, the subsequent 25+ years of sacrifice to make sure you raised a good person requires many selfless acts. If you never had a child and raised a child before, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. I didn’t know how much is involved in raising a child until I had one of my own. 3rd party looking in have no idea. I had no idea.

What scheme are you referring to? Why does this scheme make not having kids be selfless? Yet having kids is selfish?

[an]

[quote=briansd1]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.[/quote]
Once again, selflessness and selfishness is not black and white. The act of conceiving a child might be selfish due to personal gratification. However, the subsequent 25+ years of sacrifice to make sure you raised a good person requires many selfless acts. If you never had a child and raised a child before, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. I didn’t know how much is involved in raising a child until I had one of my own. 3rd party looking in have no idea. I had no idea.

What scheme are you referring to? Why does this scheme make not having kids be selfless? Yet having kids is selfish?

[an]

[quote=briansd1]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.[/quote]
Once again, selflessness and selfishness is not black and white. The act of conceiving a child might be selfish due to personal gratification. However, the subsequent 25+ years of sacrifice to make sure you raised a good person requires many selfless acts. If you never had a child and raised a child before, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. I didn’t know how much is involved in raising a child until I had one of my own. 3rd party looking in have no idea. I had no idea.

What scheme are you referring to? Why does this scheme make not having kids be selfless? Yet having kids is selfish?

[an]

[quote=briansd1]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.[/quote]
Once again, selflessness and selfishness is not black and white. The act of conceiving a child might be selfish due to personal gratification. However, the subsequent 25+ years of sacrifice to make sure you raised a good person requires many selfless acts. If you never had a child and raised a child before, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. I didn’t know how much is involved in raising a child until I had one of my own. 3rd party looking in have no idea. I had no idea.

What scheme are you referring to? Why does this scheme make not having kids be selfless? Yet having kids is selfish?

[an]

[quote=briansd1]

True, AN.

My point is that having children is not selfless. That’s all. I’m not questioning the validity of having children. I’m only saying that it’s not selfless.

Like davelj said, we all do things (whatever we do) for selfish reasons.

That argument that having kids is selfless simply doesn’t fly.

In the scheme of things, considering environmental and social and economic factors, not having kids could be either selfish or selfless. But having kids is definitely selfish.[/quote]
Once again, selflessness and selfishness is not black and white. The act of conceiving a child might be selfish due to personal gratification. However, the subsequent 25+ years of sacrifice to make sure you raised a good person requires many selfless acts. If you never had a child and raised a child before, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. I didn’t know how much is involved in raising a child until I had one of my own. 3rd party looking in have no idea. I had no idea.

What scheme are you referring to? Why does this scheme make not having kids be selfless? Yet having kids is selfish?

[scaredyclassic]

by trying to replicate our dna and consume resources while doing so, we are being selfish. why more of me? what’s so great about me that there needs to be more of me? clearly i am very high quality, but still. am i essential? if I were truly selfless, i would have foregone the payment at the sperm bank. yet i wanted to ensure that no lowlifes benefitted from my greatness. yes indeed, the world is lucky to have many of me all over. I am much better than Them.

[scaredyclassic]

by trying to replicate our dna and consume resources while doing so, we are being selfish. why more of me? what’s so great about me that there needs to be more of me? clearly i am very high quality, but still. am i essential? if I were truly selfless, i would have foregone the payment at the sperm bank. yet i wanted to ensure that no lowlifes benefitted from my greatness. yes indeed, the world is lucky to have many of me all over. I am much better than Them.

[scaredyclassic]

by trying to replicate our dna and consume resources while doing so, we are being selfish. why more of me? what’s so great about me that there needs to be more of me? clearly i am very high quality, but still. am i essential? if I were truly selfless, i would have foregone the payment at the sperm bank. yet i wanted to ensure that no lowlifes benefitted from my greatness. yes indeed, the world is lucky to have many of me all over. I am much better than Them.

[scaredyclassic]

by trying to replicate our dna and consume resources while doing so, we are being selfish. why more of me? what’s so great about me that there needs to be more of me? clearly i am very high quality, but still. am i essential? if I were truly selfless, i would have foregone the payment at the sperm bank. yet i wanted to ensure that no lowlifes benefitted from my greatness. yes indeed, the world is lucky to have many of me all over. I am much better than Them.

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