The middle class is doomed…

[Oni Koroshi]

Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.

[The-Shoveler]

Guys I don’t think you get it,
In 10 years, you will go to Jack-in-the-box,
Speak your order into a mic or enter it on a keypad. Wave you credit card and the machine will take your picture and store it on a remote drive.
Then a machine will automatically pick from the various hoppers the raw materials it needs to make the meal and prepare it, bag it and hand it to you.
There will be one employee, who has a pager device that tells him/her that they need to go to one of the seven restaurants he is in charge of and reload the correct hopper.
Drones will ply the skies looking and tracking any wrong doers.
Enjoy.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

Look on the websites of each UC campus (excluding UCM, UCR and UCSC) and they will tell you the percentage of freshmen admitted in Fall 2012 who were CA residents, foreign students and out-of-state students. The numbers speak for themselves.

It’s ALL ABOUT $$ now.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

Look on the websites of each UC campus (excluding UCM, UCR and UCSC) and they will tell you the percentage of freshmen admitted in Fall 2012 who were CA residents, foreign students and out-of-state students. The numbers speak for themselves.

It’s ALL ABOUT $$ now.[/quote]
http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sriweb/Profile2012.pdf
87% are from CA. 9% are interational and 4% are out of state. 44.4% undergrad enrollee are Asian. So, how is 9% = majority again?

[Coronita]

[quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

I don’t think I was referring to students. I was referring to opportunities in general from foreign company competition, resources etc. If people have the mentality here that the work is too good for them or that it doesn’t pay enough or get scared out of not trying to do it to begin with, who else is gonna do it?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

Look on the websites of each UC campus (excluding UCM, UCR and UCSC) and they will tell you the percentage of freshmen admitted in Fall 2012 who were CA residents, foreign students and out-of-state students. The numbers speak for themselves.

It’s ALL ABOUT $$ now.[/quote]
http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sriweb/Profile2012.pdf
87% are from CA. 9% are interational and 4% are out of state. 44.4% undergrad enrollee are Asian. So, how is 9% = majority again?[/quote]

That is the “entire campus” including CC transfers and local workers going there part-time for years.

Look at the stats for “freshman admissions” for fall 2012.

[Coronita]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Guys I don’t think you get it,
In 10 years, you will go to Jack-in-the-box,
Speak your order into a mic or enter it on a keypad. Wave you credit card and the machine will take your picture and store it on a remote drive.
Then a machine will automatically pick from the various hoppers the raw materials it needs to make the meal and prepare it, bag it and hand it to you.
There will be one employee, who has a pager device that tells him/her that they need to go to one of the seven restaurants he is in charge of and reload the correct hopper.
Drones will ply the skies looking and tracking any wrong doers.
Enjoy.[/quote]

10 years from now you won’t even need to go to a jack-in-the-box. You’ll pop a food pill and then put on a virtual reality goggle that will tap in your mind and give stimulate your brain waves to make you think you just aint a nice juicy burger. The entire fast food restaurant business will be doomed!

Hell, once we get to that point, humans are useless and robots will become self-aware and realize we’re a sorry excuse of civilization….

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu][quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

I don’t think I was referring to students. I was referring to opportunities in general from foreign company competition, resources etc. If people have the mentality here that the work is too good for them or that it doesn’t pay enough or get scared out of not trying to do it to begin with, who else is gonna do it?[/quote]

flu, these foreign students are only here on student visas. The vast majority take their (expensive) degrees back home with them after they graduate … you know, to work on Hoover Dam and “interstates” and such :=0

[SD Realtor]

I think this is true now because the democratic party found that providing a focus on income imbalances and stressing these imbalances in elections is the way to win. Securing the lower income vote is much more important. Compare this election to the strategy used by Gore in 2004. The strategies were not even close to being related. I believe that as we move forward this will become the standard strategy to be used. Forget anything else… forget foreign policy, forget debt, forget domestic policy…simply play the card of imbalance and that I will fight to take from others to give to you and I think that can secure a majority of the vote, especially in high electoral areas.

That is the political side of it.

Make no mistake about it, the track record of the republicans and their ineptitude makes this a very easy task. Insisting that make over 250k but under 1 million was as stupid as a move as ever. They make it so easy. Yet however politically incorrect Romneys 47% statement was, essentially the idea holds water.

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Another make no mistake about it, the policies of the past 40 years have in fact laid the foundations for these imbalances. In some administrations they grew faster then others. Yet the fallacy that the current administration takes steps to slow this down are true. The current administration is not any different in that regard, the rich are getting richer, Wall Street has seen incredible wealth increases. The success is that this administration has laid down what I believe is a very successful blueprint in political victory. In 2016 we will still be in a world of hurt with regard to debt and deficit. There will still be problems galore but I bet that the 2016 blueprint used by the Hillary or Biden or whoever will indeed pander get the lower income vote by motivating class warfare.

No these programs have not been cut or decreased. You are not correct. more important, the number of people needing the assistance has grown. Take a look at the number of people needing food stamps. It doesn’t matter if the programs grow. What matters is that these people think they are entitled to phones or snap cards or whatever and that these must come from the rich. In reality they come from the middle class.

After squat pointed out the cost of education and displayed how much of an imbalance there is for a middle class family to send their kid to school when a child from a a low income family can get it for much less cost your response was “it is worth it”.

Sorry I don’t agree with that. I think that examples like that are indeed exactly what dooms the middle class.

[Coronita]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu][quote=Oni Koroshi]Why do you assume that the majority of these Asian students are foreign? Most of them are CA locals.[/quote]

I don’t think I was referring to students. I was referring to opportunities in general from foreign company competition, resources etc. If people have the mentality here that the work is too good for them or that it doesn’t pay enough or get scared out of not trying to do it to begin with, who else is gonna do it?[/quote]

flu, these foreign students are only here on student visas. The vast majority take their (expensive) degrees back home with them after they graduate … you know, to work on Hoover Dam and “interstates” and such :=0[/quote]

A lot of them stay find work here (because they end up being the most qualified people). And I think there’s nothing wrong with it…It’s the mentality of every other quitter here that’s the issue.

[SK in CV]

[quote=SD Realtor]
No these programs have not been cut or decreased. You are not correct. more important, the number of people needing the assistance has grown. [/quote]

Which programs have expanded benefits in the last 8 years?

[Coronita]

[quote=SD Realtor]I think this is true now because the democratic party found that providing a focus on income imbalances and stressing these imbalances in elections is the way to win. Securing the lower income vote is much more important. Compare this election to the strategy used by Gore in 2004. The strategies were not even close to being related. I believe that as we move forward this will become the standard strategy to be used. Forget anything else… forget foreign policy, forget debt, forget domestic policy…simply play the card of imbalance and that I will fight to take from others to give to you and I think that can secure a majority of the vote, especially in high electoral areas.

That is the political side of it.

Make no mistake about it, the track record of the republicans and their ineptitude makes this a very easy task. Insisting that make over 250k but under 1 million was as stupid as a move as ever. They make it so easy. Yet however politically incorrect Romneys 47% statement was, essentially the idea holds water.

************

Another make no mistake about it, the policies of the past 40 years have in fact laid the foundations for these imbalances. In some administrations they grew faster then others. Yet the fallacy that the current administration takes steps to slow this down are true. The current administration is not any different in that regard, the rich are getting richer, Wall Street has seen incredible wealth increases. The success is that this administration has laid down what I believe is a very successful blueprint in political victory. In 2016 we will still be in a world of hurt with regard to debt and deficit. There will still be problems galore but I bet that the 2016 blueprint used by the Hillary or Biden or whoever will indeed pander get the lower income vote by motivating class warfare.

No these programs have not been cut or decreased. You are not correct. more important, the number of people needing the assistance has grown. Take a look at the number of people needing food stamps. It doesn’t matter if the programs grow. What matters is that these people think they are entitled to phones or snap cards or whatever and that these must come from the rich. In reality they come from the middle class.

After squat pointed out the cost of education and displayed how much of an imbalance there is for a middle class family to send their kid to school when a child from a a low income family can get it for much less cost your response was “it is worth it”.

Sorry I don’t agree with that. I think that examples like that are indeed exactly what dooms the middle class.[/quote]

Wait until you compare medicare plans with medicaid plans. Kinda funny that the medicaid plans pay out more in many many cases then medicare….Lol…

[SK in CV]

[quote=flu]

Wait until you compare medicare plans with medicaid plans. Kinda funny that the medicaid plans pay out more in many many cases then medicare….Lol…[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got that information, but it’s wrong. There are a few benefits that medicaid covers in some states that medicare does not. But overall, medicaid pays providers significantly less than medicare does. Medi-Cal, for instance, pays for some dental and eye care (for children only for the last couple years), but Medicare doesn’t currently cover it. Beyond that, in CA, reimbursements for medicaid services generally havent increased in years, on some cases, they haven’t increased in decades.

But hospitals lose money on medicaid patients. Most can come close to break even on medicare reimbursements, and at current reimbursement rates, it would be profitable if not for the uninsured.

[livinincali]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=SD Realtor]
No these programs have not been cut or decreased. You are not correct. more important, the number of people needing the assistance has grown. [/quote]

Which programs have expanded benefits in the last 8 years?[/quote]

How about food stamps

How about looking at the Federal budget numbers for medicare, medicaid and social security over the past 8 years.

[SD Realtor]

You don’t get it SK. Expansion doesn’t matter. The facts don’t matter. You tell me, have the number of people vying for the benefits increased? That is what matters. The volume of voters is what counts. That larger volume gets told that they should be given what others have earned.

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