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February 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM #661626February 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM #660515
ninaprincess
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM #660578ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM #661182ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM #661320ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM #661651ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM #660525ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM #660588ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM #661192ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM #661330ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM #661661ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
February 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM #660540jimmyle
ParticipantThe public employee unions financed Brown. Pay back time huh? There is zero chance that the voters go for the tax extension, unless the illegals can vote.
I think it is pretty safe to say that pRI- is a public employee or has relative who is.
[quote=desmond]”The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)”
pRI-
“In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
February 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM #660603ParticipantThe public employee unions financed Brown. Pay back time huh? There is zero chance that the voters go for the tax extension, unless the illegals can vote.
I think it is pretty safe to say that pRI- is a public employee or has relative who is.
[quote=desmond]”The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)”
pRI-
“In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
February 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM #661207ParticipantThe public employee unions financed Brown. Pay back time huh? There is zero chance that the voters go for the tax extension, unless the illegals can vote.
I think it is pretty safe to say that pRI- is a public employee or has relative who is.
[quote=desmond]”The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)”
pRI-
“In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
February 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM #661345ParticipantThe public employee unions financed Brown. Pay back time huh? There is zero chance that the voters go for the tax extension, unless the illegals can vote.
I think it is pretty safe to say that pRI- is a public employee or has relative who is.
[quote=desmond]”The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)”
pRI-
“In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
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